I need your opinion. I have this idea. I go and buy a weight vest of 20 kilos some ankle weights of 5 kilos each ankle and maybe a backbag with some weight in it. Go to the port at night take 2 xanax and just jumb inside ,the weights will sink me hopefully and keep me there . i am worried about the weight that can sink and keep a person of 120 kilos as me.will only the vest and the ankle weights do the job or does it need more?
Cosmiq
Student
- May 7, 2020
- 197
I'd think you'd need a very secure way of keeping those weights on, otherwise, you'd try to remove them at the last minute. I think this may be why people would do the whole cinderblock and chain thing, but I'm not sure... I think you would still attempting to swim but maybe the weights will tire you out faster though. But
Giraffey
Your Orange Crush
- Mar 7, 2020
- 439
I have drowning as a secondary method and so it's something I've researched and tested (under controlled conditions with an unwitting assistant). The actual weight itself won't be the problem here, but instead, as pointed out above, the real problem will be when your survival instinct kicks in. At a certain point, you will unconsciously begin to thrash around and attempt to remove the weights, if any are loose they will either fall or be ripped off. I note that you're planning to take Xanax, depending on how many of those you take and your state of consciousness at the time you enter the water (you may still be conscious but not fully lucid) the usual drowning response may not kick in.
What worried me most about this method for me was more the excruciating pain and panic once I was under the water, that would no doubt be made much worse by the weights, assuming they are sufficiently secured to your body. There are ways of mitigating the pain if it's important to you, I briefly discussed some of my techniques on another thread but they are probably repeated elsewhere here as well.
It may be wise to attempt a dry run first. Attach the weights to yourself the way that you intend to and then set a timer and challenge yourself to escape from them as fast as possible. Even if you end up ripping the weights off (meaning you have to buy more straps), you've demonstrated that they're not suitable for your use and better to have to buy another set of straps or a new vest than have your attempt fail because you somehow turned into Hercules in the water and discovered that the stitchwork on your vest was poor and ripped right off...
Either way, spend some time to get this right.
What worried me most about this method for me was more the excruciating pain and panic once I was under the water, that would no doubt be made much worse by the weights, assuming they are sufficiently secured to your body. There are ways of mitigating the pain if it's important to you, I briefly discussed some of my techniques on another thread but they are probably repeated elsewhere here as well.
It may be wise to attempt a dry run first. Attach the weights to yourself the way that you intend to and then set a timer and challenge yourself to escape from them as fast as possible. Even if you end up ripping the weights off (meaning you have to buy more straps), you've demonstrated that they're not suitable for your use and better to have to buy another set of straps or a new vest than have your attempt fail because you somehow turned into Hercules in the water and discovered that the stitchwork on your vest was poor and ripped right off...
Either way, spend some time to get this right.
Do you think that xanax will not help if i dont time it correctly to jump in just before it kicks in? Also how many kilos will be the correct number for a guy 120 kilos?
I was planning on doing something similar: with rocks in my pockets and a heavy object tied to both of my knees (i'm 55 kgs so i don't think I need too much weight). I'm heavily relying on sleeping pills too to avoid being conscious. Survival instincts are obviously a worry... but it all depends on whether you execute it right or not. I tried before in non-deep water just to test it and it's pretty difficult to untie stuff underwater. If the drugs do their work, you probably will be too knocked out to even be able to do anything, but something I will also be doing is hyperventilating before jumping in. It helps with getting unconscious and with not triggering the breathing reflex (which causes water aspiration and an immense amount of pain).
I don't think that the survival instinct will make you get free from the weights, unless it's very easy to get rid of them. Maybe at the very beginning you will not be in total panic and you will be able to understand that you have to get rid of the weights in order to survive. But as soon as you start running out of oxygen or breathing in water, the instinct would be to swim on the surface of the water with all the strength that you have.
The amount of weight is not that important either, but I think that it's more important the density. 1kg of iron sinks, 1kg of wood doesn't. I don't think I would be able to swim with a 10kg dumbbell on me
The amount of weight is not that important either, but I think that it's more important the density. 1kg of iron sinks, 1kg of wood doesn't. I don't think I would be able to swim with a 10kg dumbbell on me
rhiino
Arcanist
- May 13, 2020
- 486
In order to avoid survival instinct to ruin it you would need weights that you cannot remove easily, attached with handcuffs or similar.
pthnrdnojvsc
Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
- Aug 12, 2019
- 2,649
I was thinking of attaching 2 weightlifting steel plates around 5 Kilos each attached to a handcuff and then the other handcuff attached to my arm or leg . That would be enough for me i think to sink to the bottom of the ocean. Or i could use plastic zip ties to secure the weight to the handcuff too.
I think if i slip a long cable tie around my ankLe and tighten it really tight there's no way to take it off without having scissors right? :
Then I can loop another cable tie and attach a weight to it. That would work wouldn't it?
They want to stop me from commiting suicide. I'll take a boat to the middle of the ocean. dive deep down and they'll never "save" me nor even find my body.
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I thought about all of this too. I am back and forth back and forth between jumping and SN. They are very different. Jumping is very fast but traumatic and painful. SN is slower and can fail...
Getting over the blockage of heights and jumping is the first part of the survival instinct. It is not a natural action so the body resists. Vomiting is the body's way of surviving for SN. The weighted vest will help. Try to go off the edge backwards.
Notabadguy
Mage
- Feb 7, 2020
- 576
I thought about the same method as you, but now I'm going with the Rebreather or SN. Don't you prefer SN than drowning? It's said that drowning is painful.
Pryras
Last hope
- Feb 11, 2020
- 524
Have you considered options like SN?
To each their own, but drowning just feels like one of the worst ways to go, up there with CTB by train.
The extra weight will keep you down no problem but I think the biggest concern is of peacefulness (if that's a concern to you)
SI isn't even the biggest issue here, it's the extreme panic you may feel being unable to breath and slowly suffocate with water in your lungs.
To each their own, but drowning just feels like one of the worst ways to go, up there with CTB by train.
The extra weight will keep you down no problem but I think the biggest concern is of peacefulness (if that's a concern to you)
SI isn't even the biggest issue here, it's the extreme panic you may feel being unable to breath and slowly suffocate with water in your lungs.
I have same methods in mind which include and SN if i manage to have it. But i dont think that and SN will be as peacefull as we think...
rhiino
Arcanist
- May 13, 2020
- 486
Personally I like the idea of drowning much more than the idea of jumping from a huge height. The fear of the height is just too much for me when I consider to jump down, although I am not exceptionally afraid of heights.
Is 10 kg of steel really enough to keep you down? I feel that it might not be enough.
Is 10 kg of steel really enough to keep you down? I feel that it might not be enough.
amount of weight: you have to try.. Without tying it to your body, maybe you can tie it to a rope that you can later pull out of the water. Walk in a shallow lake and see if you can swim with that weight.
I wouldn't tie it with something that can injure you. When you are drowning, you will move arms and legs fast to swim out of the water. If you have something tied to your legs made of hard material, it will make it more painful. A rope with enough knots is enough.
Since swimming requires propelling your body with arms and feet, something tied to hands and feet will make it harder to get out of the water.
Another way is to fill a backpack and secure it to the body with a rope.
Anyway: the reason why I have never tried it is simply because I'm also afraid that it might not be peaceful. Salty water is even worse. Muddy lake is not nice either.
rhiino
Arcanist
- May 13, 2020
- 486
It might also be better if the weight was not directly attached to the body, but rather with a rope or something that has some length. That way it cannot hurt you that much. I think of a decent weight attached to a 1 m rope that is attached to your ankle with several good knots or something like this that uses screws.
