Does true love even exist?

[Neogoloid]

I feel like society is more about sex rather than love and romance, I mean men are biologically wired to spread their seed as far as possible with as many women as they can. And nowadays many women sell themselves, and slut culture is as possible as ever. And high body counts are celebrated. I find that ironic because it completely destroys Christianity, Islam and other religions which tells men that they should marry one woman, when our biology goes against that. Why would god design men that way and then tell them act against that nature. Idk just find that dumb, just another reason of many why I don't follow any religious belief.

After 20 years of two people being married. I find it hard to believe that they'd never think about other people sexually at least sometimes. I feel like eventually that spark will just burn out. Looks fade after all, and it's hard to "love" someone you aren't physically attracted to. What happens when that handsome tall man isn't attractive anymore, he's balding and gained weight and lost his youthful appearance. Now his wife no longer wants to bang him, and is seemingly more rude and hostile instead of caring and sweet like she was before. And the guy doesn't know why. I definitely think love is only a byproduct of sexual attraction.

 

[get.some.sleep]

The price of love is grief. The harder you love, the higher the price.

 

[hermestrimegistus]

New age people love to talk about "limerance" and how its confused for love. And yeah, to an extent, theyre not wrong.

But if you truly love someone, you are completely vulnerable. I was in the same position in the past so I can't judge. I wanted to experience love so bad. But,

Chasing love, is like looking to develop cancer. There are more negatives than anything else. You are transferring power over to someone else who can stomp all over you and destroy your sense of self. If you truly love, you can get destroyed in the process. If I loved someone enough, I'd let them fucking destroy me in the process, and stay around through thick and thin. But that's very rare. And most of the time, one party wants to dispose of the other. Love is rarely mutual and its overrated. Learn to enjoy your own company. At least you can't abandon yourself

 

[piddincir]

True love does exist, I was lucky enough to experience this in my life and it was the best thing in the world.

I met my true love 10 years ago, we fell in love almost instantly, we moved in together after a week of knowing each other and our love grew and grew everyday. Our spark never faded, we aged but I always found her the most beautiful woman in the world, and I know she thought the same of me.

Unfortunately, my wife took her own life 7 weeks ago today, she was always prone to suicide and things in her life spiralled this year and she acted impulsively but my love had kept her alive for 10 years. She loved me to her last breath I know it, sadly she just didn't feel worthy of life and I know felt that I deserved better than her which is really tragic as she was my world.

I am the unluckiest luckiest man Alive, I had it, I lost it and left broken beyond repair, it's cruel but would I wouldn't trade any of the pain I am in for the last 10 years of my life. All I wanted to do was grow old with her, now I just want to die

The price of love is grief. The harder you love, the higher the price.

Totally this, I loved with everything in me, my departed wife was really half of me, that half died when she did and the other half dies a little more each day

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think it does exist but I never found it. I'm glad I didn't settle for someone who would only have been settling for me.

 

[Kattt]

A number of societies practice polygamy. It's worth noting that men reach the peak of sexual maturity at approximately nineteen years of age, while women do so aged about thirty six. At nineteen, a man is emotionally immature. There's a huge difference between dating a girl and a woman.
Yes, true love does exist, but there are many different types of love.
Love can never be the product of sexual attraction alone. That would be lust. Someone asked me how you know what real love is. The best answer I could come up with was that when you truly love somebody, their happiness is more important to you than your own.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

"True love" is about as real as any other type of emotion or feeling. Also, physical attarction can sometimes come about as a result of emotional attraction. Hence why demisexuals exist and why there are cases of people falling head over heels for others who don't meet the convential standards for beauty or even their own sexual preferences when it comes to looks. Emotional attraction plays a much bigger role than physical attraction when it comes to relatonships lasting. My grandparents have a very loving and functional relationship because they are not just physically but also emotionally attracted to one another. I also find it weird that you specifcally talk about the wife losing interest when this goes both ways.

Also, islam and certain dominions of christianity don't call for monogamy. I'm pretty sure in islam a man can have more than one wife, so long as he is able to provide and take care of all of them. Certain sects of christianity are fine with polygamy. While most romantic relationships do fall apart, there are people out there who are able to maintain a long and loving relationship with each other.

Also, whether or not we are a mongamous species seems to be more of a debate (at least from what I have observed). Some researchers claim we aren't, while others claim otherwise.

True love also doesn't just pertain to romantic love either. True love can exist in the form of platonic or familial love too. Queer platonic relationshps exist for a reason.

 

[BWV478]

No. All human interactions and relationships are transactional in one way or another. If you have nothing to offer someone, you're completely worthless to them. People romanticize things way too much and I think that's a big part of the reason people end up so hurt by the world when they begin to see it for what it actually is.

 

[suicidesheep31.1]

I think it can exist. I am maybe way too naive lol
I learnt recently what loving might look like.
For me true love is accepting and appreciate someone.
Communicate in a positive way, show respect and set healthy boundaries.
Be okay with someone else setting boundaries.
Enjoy spending time with each other.
And having trust.

Unfortunately, i don't deserve all that.
And I am not able to give it to someone else...
Despite I would like...

 

[samsara_96]

True love does exist, I was lucky enough to experience this in my life and it was the best thing in the world.

I met my true love 10 years ago, we fell in love almost instantly, we moved in together after a week of knowing each other and our love grew and grew everyday. Our spark never faded, we aged but I always found her the most beautiful woman in the world, and I know she thought the same of me.

Unfortunately, my wife took her own life 7 weeks ago today, she was always prone to suicide and things in her life spiralled this year and she acted impulsively but my love had kept her alive for 10 years. She loved me to her last breath I know it, sadly she just didn't feel worthy of life and I know felt that I deserved better than her which is really tragic as she was my world.

I am the unluckiest luckiest man Alive, I had it, I lost it and left broken beyond repair, it's cruel but would I wouldn't trade any of the pain I am in for the last 10 years of my life. All I wanted to do was grow old with her, now I just want to die

Totally this, I loved with everything in me, my departed wife was really half of me, that half died when she did and the other half dies a little more each day

It is terrible what you and your love have gone through. I am so sorry for your loss. I hope that one day you will meet each other again and stay together for eternity.

 

[casual_existence]

"True" love is an insane concept. Just like there is no "true" rock there is no "true" love.

There's many reasons to look for some supposed trueness of a thing but truth is fuzzy because reality is fuzzy.

The fact that reality is fuzzy means that there is no one way to make a label and then throw anything and everything in there and it being 100% applicable to those things. And assuming that we can get a solid point, let's say something that is the center of that label space, we humans can't even begin to settle on it for various reasons but the most important I think is that we are incapable of seeing the label for what it is.

Anyways I know these are some highly abstract concepts and is probably useless to anyone on here but I think it helps to not fool ourselves into thinking that something exists when it really doesn't.

 

[Readytogohome]

Yes, it exists, I've been married to my true love for over 40 years and we've grown closer and closer over those years. We still make each other feel special and loved.

 

[Rational man]

I think its important to accept that human relationships like life, are impermanence. Enjoy it whilst it lasts. Some end quickly and some last for ages. Whatever, hold that feeling that it happened in your heart. Unfortunately, I was never able to find love for too long but I did for a short while.

 

[DaSh]

It does

 

[just_a_guy]

It exists but it won't exist or be revealed to everyone. Many of us will search the darkness with a dim flashlight chasing after phantoms that lead us closer to the cliff's edge

 

[tiger b]

Yes, it exists.

 

[Morte]

No, love is an illusion, because you only love someone who first makes you happy. In the end, love is just another form of narcisism.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

nope

 

[xoxo24]

I hope i find it if it does exist

 

[NewSereneC]

Oh yes. Yes absolutely.

 

[butterfly3]

it probably exists, I just dont think it does for me

 

[AnonymousRobin]

I truly love my partner and I'm certain he loves me, it's the only thing really keeping me here, I don't want to imagine the grief if I did go, but there's lots of future and many ways things can play out

 

[Jolene79]

No. All human interactions and relationships are transactional in one way or another. If you have nothing to offer someone, you're completely worthless to them. People romanticize things way too much and I think that's a big part of the reason people end up so hurt by the world when they begin to see it for what it actually is.

Yes I believe you have hit the nail on the head here. It has taken years of experience, getting older and years of counselling to learn that every single thing is transactional. Every seemingly altruistic act in some way benefits the giver or they would not do it. This applies to relationships. There has to be something for each person to stay in it, even if those reasons are messed up and toxic. It is a very cruel reality of the world. I sometimes wish I hadn't discovered the truth of people and still lived in ignorance. You can't go back when you know.

Romantic love is just a construct. Our body out minds will do all sorts to us in order to push us towards pro creation. That seems to be the only purpose of existence yet it is dresssed up as much more.

All a bit depressing sorry guys

 

[TheLastGreySky]

I feel like society is more about sex rather than love and romance, I mean men are biologically wired to spread their seed as far as possible with as many women as they can. And nowadays many women sell themselves, and slut culture is as possible as ever. And high body counts are celebrated. I find that ironic because it completely destroys Christianity, Islam and other religions which tells men that they should marry one woman, when our biology goes against that. Why would god design men that way and then tell them act against that nature. Idk just find that dumb, just another reason of many why I don't follow any religious belief.

After 20 years of two people being married. I find it hard to believe that they'd never think about other people sexually at least sometimes. I feel like eventually that spark will just burn out. Looks fade after all, and it's hard to "love" someone you aren't physically attracted to. What happens when that handsome tall man isn't attractive anymore, he's balding and gained weight and lost his youthful appearance. Now his wife no longer wants to bang him, and is seemingly more rude and hostile instead of caring and sweet like she was before. And the guy doesn't know why. I definitely think love is only a byproduct of sexual attraction.

Yes it does... well, I truly loved two people, and the first was real. It was toxic but real. The second, I loved her more than I've ever loved a woman, and I met her and we got engaged all the while I explained to her several times that I was going to go to prison, she said she'd wait for it, etc... long story short she broke up with me when I did like 2 weeks in prison. I did 11 months and I come to findout via facebook that she got engaged a week later to someone else and had a kid in that time frame.
This was after my wife of 12 years (highschool sweet heart) divorced me after having four kids with me.

Do I still believe in real love? Yes, but am I ever going to trust another human being? Fuck to the no.

 

[pawlessz]

I feel like society is more about sex rather than love and romance, I mean men are biologically wired to spread their seed as far as possible with as many women as they can. And nowadays many women sell themselves, and slut culture is as possible as ever. And high body counts are celebrated. I find that ironic because it completely destroys Christianity, Islam and other religions which tells men that they should marry one woman, when our biology goes against that. Why would god design men that way and then tell them act against that nature. Idk just find that dumb, just another reason of many why I don't follow any religious belief.

After 20 years of two people being married. I find it hard to believe that they'd never think about other people sexually at least sometimes. I feel like eventually that spark will just burn out. Looks fade after all, and it's hard to "love" someone you aren't physically attracted to. What happens when that handsome tall man isn't attractive anymore, he's balding and gained weight and lost his youthful appearance. Now his wife no longer wants to bang him, and is seemingly more rude and hostile instead of caring and sweet like she was before. And the guy doesn't know why. I definitely think love is only a byproduct of sexual attraction.

yes it does ive experienced it 2 times

 

[Unattainable666]

I'm 62 years old and I can tell you honestly that true love does NOT exist. The only love that is really true is the love you give yourself. No one - no person - male or female - can give you true love - it just doesnt exist. In today's world people use each other for their own personal forums - they don't care about your feelings or how something will affect you. You are not a real person to them and therefore they don't treat you as if you were. Sorry to be ranging but speaking my mind and from oerson al experience

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

No . So beyond that . The mind is everything what you think you become

 

[daocreator]

I feel like society is more about sex rather than love and romance, I mean men are biologically wired to spread their seed as far as possible with as many women as they can. And nowadays many women sell themselves, and slut culture is as possible as ever. And high body counts are celebrated. I find that ironic because it completely destroys Christianity, Islam and other religions which tells men that they should marry one woman, when our biology goes against that. Why would god design men that way and then tell them act against that nature. Idk just find that dumb, just another reason of many why I don't follow any religious belief.

After 20 years of two people being married. I find it hard to believe that they'd never think about other people sexually at least sometimes. I feel like eventually that spark will just burn out. Looks fade after all, and it's hard to "love" someone you aren't physically attracted to. What happens when that handsome tall man isn't attractive anymore, he's balding and gained weight and lost his youthful appearance. Now his wife no longer wants to bang him, and is seemingly more rude and hostile instead of caring and sweet like she was before. And the guy doesn't know why. I definitely think love is only a byproduct of sexual attraction.

I do agree on that. Relationships are not meant to be as they are in today's society, but a useless rambling of mine wouldn't change that. In any case, love is indeed often misunderstood by most humans as the ideal "find your soulmate, stay with them for the rest of your life, sustain a nice family." In truth, however, It might've been purely human instincts pushing us to mate, then after a marriage is done the emotion is then moved to the children.

Of course, it's just words; one wouldn't truly understand it until they themselves actually experience it.