Wakawaka

Wakawaka

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Dec 10, 2020
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For the people that wake up everyday feeling nothing, with no friends or family, no real connections or struggles to keep one, with trouble keeping jobs and life getting in the way at every genuine attempt to make something better, for those with addictions, those with bad reactions to antidepressants, who go to therapy and feel worse afterwards, who are seeimingly hated by the world

Is there a reason we keep struggling, does it actually get better for us
 
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sadworld

sadworld

existence is a nightmare
Aug 25, 2020
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Considering all of those problems it is really unlikely to get better. Many try and I respect them but at the end they've tried everything for years and still don't succeed...
 
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AmDead

AmDead

早く死にたい
Aug 20, 2020
69
There's people on here past age 50 who want to die. Of course it doesn't get better. People say Rest In Peace for a reason. Death is peaceful. Living is hell.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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It gets better when we die
 
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Ghost2211

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Jan 20, 2020
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I think it gets better for some, and not for others. We all have such different circumstances and factors.
 
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Sensei

Sensei

剣道家
Nov 4, 2019
6,336
There's people on here past age 50 who want to die.

I have a few years left before I turn 50, but I think I'm qualified to comment on this anyway. It may not get better in the long run for us, but it can get better in the short run, so it might be worth it to stay alive a little bit longer. My life has gone to hell and it will most probably end in suicide, but when I look back I'm happy I didn't kill myself when I was young. There have been both good times and bad times in my life, and I'm glad I didn't miss out on the good times. Of course, for some people life might not get better at all. It's up to ourselves to figure out what the odds are that our lives will get better.
 
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Life_and_Death

Life_and_Death

Do what's best for you 🕯️ Sometimes I'm stressed
Jul 1, 2020
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ive been struggling with some of the things youve mentioned plus more for years. ive been working on recovery for about 4 years and am finally getting somewhere. although there are definitely some more difficult to help cases for the most part, recovery depends on you. if you arent going to accept it then you arent going to move forward. but you also have to understand that accepting on its own is difficult. i find that real acceptance is below the emotions and finding your way past that can be difficult. :hug: :heart:
 
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PursuitofWonder

PursuitofWonder

Student
Dec 12, 2020
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Despite the extra hurtles we face in the form of no connections or not responding to antidepressants, in my opinion it's worth pursuing all your available options before deciding to ctb. I am definitely not pro life but more so that you never know what could end up helping, and if it doesn't help, then you can die knowing you did what you could. It's so individualized that you never know what could end up helping.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,682
There's people on here past age 50 who want to die. Of course it doesn't get better. People say Rest In Peace for a reason. Death is peaceful. Living is hell.
I am feeling your status message very much right now- この言葉が好きだた
 
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Miss_Takes

Somewhere Over the Rainbow
Dec 4, 2020
452
I am 52 and have had significant lows and struggles with MH as well as wonderful times that I believed I wouldnt have ever experienced when I was at my lowest (which if I am honest may be now).
I am grateful I did not suicide in my earlier years because there have been some wonderful parts to my life and some parts that were just ordinarily mundane alongside and in between the very low lows.
Each person must make the decision to live or die for themselves because none of us live each others experience.
So I suppose MY personal thought on the question is ...
I believe change is possible and that can feel 'better' but often its accompanied by the uncomfortableness that is essentially life and that we both seek out and then deny we need to endure.
 
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Deleted member 15256

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Feb 18, 2020
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My personal experience.
I gave up on ctb two times. And things worked out for a while.
And now I am miserable again... Feeling stupid for believing that it could be something out there for me.
Go now it's being so much more stressful because of my financial problems that I can't stop thinking that I should have gone on the first time.
So I don't know... I really don't know if it was worthy. I was happy for a while, but lost everything again
 
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muffin222

muffin222

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2020
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I don't know that it actually gets better in every situation, but I do believe that we all hold the power to, at the very least, develop new coping skills and alternate perspectives on our lives, our problems, and our suffering.
 
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Wisdom3_1-9

he/him/his
Jul 19, 2020
1,954
For the people that wake up everyday feeling nothing, with no friends or family, no real connections or struggles to keep one, with trouble keeping jobs and life getting in the way at every genuine attempt to make something better, for those with addictions, those with bad reactions to antidepressants, who go to therapy and feel worse afterwards, who are seeimingly hated by the world

Is there a reason we keep struggling, does it actually get better for us
It hasn't gotten better for me. It's been 7+ months since my first attempt, when people told me I had a lot to live for and that things would get better. Nothing's changed. I feel worse than I did before. Sometimes I wish I could "feel nothing" as you stated in your opening sentence. To be numb to all this pain would be a blessing. But that still wouldn't be living.

I don't mean to say that my experience is definitive. There *are* people for whom it gets better. They move on. They overcome. They maybe even come out stronger on the other end. That's not me, though. As a result, I resent the implication from others that "it gets better" because it's not true for everyone and just provides false hope. For some people, it doesn't get better. They're suffering just gets prolonged.
 
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rs929

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Dec 18, 2020
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I think one sign of depression is: feeling things will never get better. Since most of us here are depressed, I don't think we can answer objectively
 
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AmDead

AmDead

早く死にたい
Aug 20, 2020
69
I have a few years left before I turn 50, but I think I'm qualified to comment on this anyway. It may not get better in the long run for us, but it can get better in the short run, so it might be worth it to stay alive a little bit longer. My life has gone to hell and it will most probably end in suicide, but when I look back I'm happy I didn't kill myself when I was young. There have been both good times and bad times in my life, and I'm glad I didn't miss out on the good times. Of course, for some people life might not get better at all. It's up to ourselves to figure out what the odds are that our lives will get better.
I could do without all the good times, ones I've had and ones I may have, if it means I wouldn't have to suffer.
 
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Sensei

Sensei

剣道家
Nov 4, 2019
6,336
I could do without all the good times, ones I've had and ones I may have, if it means I wouldn't have to suffer.

I feel you. It's like pleasure and pain. You can live without pleasure, but you can't live with pain. That said, I think life may be worth a second shot for most people. Only you know if it's worth taking the risk or not, though.
 
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Deleted member 24006

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Nov 20, 2020
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For the people that wake up everyday feeling nothing, with no friends or family, no real connections or struggles to keep one, with trouble keeping jobs and life getting in the way at every genuine attempt to make something better, for those with addictions, those with bad reactions to antidepressants, who go to therapy and feel worse afterwards, who are seeimingly hated by the world

Is there a reason we keep struggling, does it actually get better for us
Holy shit you just wrote my life ...... and no, after decades it hasn't improved at all no matter what I tried. In fact, as I've gotten older it's just become almost impossible to get through the day because my energy isn't the same as it was years ago. Sorry, wish I could give you a brighter answer.
 
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Hoarsewithnoname

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Dec 4, 2020
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Thank you for asking this question. I know I get so angry when people talk about it getting better when that hasn't been my experience so far and so I don't expect it to be in the future either. I'm sure it does get better for some people, but it's also validating to know that there are some people for whom it just doesn't ever get better.
 

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