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Illegal Preclear

Illegal Preclear

Skull Skylight Installation Specialist.
Sep 6, 2022
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I sure do. It was my first ever exposure to suicide-positive, death-positive, antinatalist content and it absolutely blew my mind as a young teen. I felt SEEN so hard. Many younger members here probably are unaware because The Church of Euthanasia was a very Web 1.0 thing and has since fallen into obscurity, but it's still around!


Created by based as Hell edge-lady, musician, trans and queer icon, and activist Chris Korda in 1992 - The Church of Euthanasia was probably a lot of people's first exposure to ANYTHING that didn't demonize suicide, and made people question toxic pro-life attitudes. Chris Korda was a trailblazer and an absolutely fascinating woman and I'm in love with her antics. Antics which include: Making a pornographic music video about 9/11, running a presidential campaign for the Unabomber, trolling the ever-loving fuck out of pro-lifers at Abortion Rights rallies:
Eatfetus
Creating a suicide ASSISTANCE hotline billboard: (Eat shit 988!)
Suibill
And coining the motto "Save the Planet, kill yourself."
Edaystp
Chris Korda created something that was extreme, shocking, irreverent, and always just a tad absurdist: Everything that I love.

I found a lot of solace in her work when I was young teen and still do to this day, as I've been rediscovering all the incredible music and writings she's created over the decades, along with her compatriots on the site. I hope folks here can too. Really, her writings are so eye-opening and ahead of their time it's insane.

I'd start with "The Age of Simulation" (Certainly a hot topic nowadays. This was written way back in the 90s-early 00s)


An excerpt:

"
In spite of these difficulties, I begin by agreeing with Jeremy Rifkin that this is the Age of Simulation. By this I mean that people now accept mediated experience in the place of real experience. This change has taken place in a series of leaps, each corresponding to a technological innovation. The printing press, camera, telephone, radio, television, and computer form a continuum; with each "advance" the simulation becomes more complete. The simulation spreads, by eliminating human capacities it has no use for, while excessively stimulating others; in this sense it behaves like a virus, which replicates by altering the structure of its host. Simulation creates conditions favorable to itself by isolating people from other living beings, by reducing their range of sensation, and especially by narrowing their attention span. Parents and teachers, unable to grasp this, surround children with televisions and computers, and then complain about learning disabilities and "attention disorders."

As Rifkin points out, today's children dismiss someone with the phrase "you're history," and as history recedes, the future becomes equally uncertain. Unlike the Iroquois, who considered the impact of their deliberations on the next seven generations, today's leaders plan no further than their reelection. Obsession with an ever-changing present destroys continuity: the cycles of gradual change so essential to biological and spiritual health, are shattered into furtive, splintered motion. Calculus becomes a way of life, as matter, energy and even time are quantized into ever-smaller units. The search for irreducible elements conceals the desire to standardize, to make things uniform and interchangeable; humans seek total control, to avoid the disorder that their control-lust creates.

Through simulation, humans seek not only to concentrate all their knowledge in the present, but to use that knowledge, as power to transform the present, ever more quickly. Thus while the stated goal of technological "progress" is increased efficiency, which by itself seems beneficial, the concealed goal is to use that efficiency, not to reduce waste, but to go even faster. Yesterday's model is discarded, efficient or not, and as the speed of development increases, more and more of earth's structure is consumed, and dissipated as waste and heat. This dissipation is entropy, or unrecoverable energy."


The works of Chris Korda were shocking in the 90s, but in the current year - the shock gives way to just how much truth they contained.
 
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tary

tary

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Jul 3, 2022
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Yes, I know them. I can't help but agree with at least some of the views of anti-natalism and a general right to die.
If you decide to bring life into this world when it's obviously impossible to ask for permission, it would be only fair to give at least grown adults a socially acceptable way out if they don't want to keep going.
I like Chris Korda's music too, she released a new EP just recently.
 
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snu

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Jun 7, 2022
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Yes, I remember their website right after 9/11 was changed to a photoshopped image of a woman licking a cock but they took the cock out and replaced it with the twin towers.
 
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BardBarrie

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Mar 17, 2024
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Antics which include: Making a pornographic music video about 9/11, running a presidential campaign for the Unabomber

I'm for VAD/euthanasia, but looking at some of these antics — including signs like "Save the planet: kill yourself" — I can neither support such a group nor take them seriously.

Did the founder Chris Korda commit suicide?
 
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Illegal Preclear

Illegal Preclear

Skull Skylight Installation Specialist.
Sep 6, 2022
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I'm for VAD/euthanasia, but looking at some of these antics — including signs like "Save the planet: kill yourself" — I can neither support such a group nor take them seriously.

Did the founder Chris Korda commit suicide?
I think you have to understand that Chris Korda is a Dadaist and Absurdist - art that involves pushing the boundaries of what can be taken seriously and play with the idea of seriousness itself. It's supposed to shocking and offensive. Which is totally fine if that's not something you're into!

She did not. I don't think she herself is suicidal, and it's easy to see where that can be taken as a bit hypocritical - BUT: We need people who are suicide-positive willing to stay alive to fight for the Right To Die for those who desperately need it. Granted, Chris Korda is a polarizing figure and very much enjoys being a polarizing figure - but her writings are highly intelligent and worth at least a skim.
 
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BardBarrie

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Mar 17, 2024
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I think you have to understand that Chris Korda is a Dadaist and Absurdist - art that involves pushing the boundaries of what can be taken seriously and play with the idea of seriousness itself. It's supposed to shocking and offensive. Which is totally fine if that's not something you're into!

She did not. I don't think she herself is suicidal, and it's easy to see where that can be taken as a bit hypocritical - BUT: We need people who are suicide-positive willing to stay alive to fight for the Right To Die for those who desperately need it. Granted, Chris Korda is a polarizing figure and very much enjoys being a polarizing figure - but her writings are highly intelligent and worth at least a skim.

I'm not sure if having such an absurdist, shocking and polarizing representative is helpful for the cause.
I certainly would not wish to be associated with them.
People already think we're crazy.
 
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Illegal Preclear

Illegal Preclear

Skull Skylight Installation Specialist.
Sep 6, 2022
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I'm not sure if having such an absurdist, shocking and polarizing representative is helpful for the cause.
I certainly would not wish to be associated with them.
People already think we're crazy.
Fair enough! She's definitely not for everyone.
 
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Tesha

Tesha

Life too shall pass
May 31, 2020
630
Don't take this personally, but you've made me feel so fucking old.

I remember them in my early 20's. At the time I didn't really understand their values, but I remember their slogans. Obviously they were very good at advertising their message.

I'm a bit shocked they're still going!
 
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Illegal Preclear

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Sep 6, 2022
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Don't take this personally, but you've made me feel so fucking old.

I remember them in my early 20's. At the time I didn't really understand their values, but I remember their slogans. Obviously they were very good at advertising their message.

I'm a bit shocked they're still going!
I am too! Chris Korda is in her 60s now. And I'm glad the site is still up - I got a lot out of it at 14, but I think it's only now I can fully appreciate it. It certainly hits different given how the Planet has perversely clownified into a circus of nightmares since the 90s-early 2000s. Now I'm just sitting here reading her words, shaking my head and saying "damn, she really knew how things were going to go down."
 
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lita-lassi

let me spell it out for you: go to hell
Sep 25, 2023
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Yes, I remember their website right after 9/11 was changed to a photoshopped image of a woman licking a cock but they took the cock out and replaced it with the twin towers.
hahahahaha
 
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psp3000

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May 20, 2023
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I browsed, explored, and read the site and the archives of it a few months ago (I think the site or some parts of should be taken with a grain of salt because of some of the fetish imagery along with the edginess + their association with Paranoia.com's webring (from what I can recall or try to remember) on some pages so I am not sure what to take seriously and what not to take seriously)

really want to buy some of the stickers, pins, and shirts on the site and I think the billboard story is great the one where Chris and the other person whose name I can't remember put a big banner on a billboard and got away before the police could get them both

I think this is the one I am trying to recall ? there's more images on the site + they've done this more than once so it's hard to recall a specific event
turnpike_dada.jpg
 
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floating_cloud

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May 30, 2024
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Oh my god she is amazing didn't know there was such a person especially back in the day
Can't imagine the amount of hate she probably got but man so happy that she is there
 
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Not A Fan

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Jun 22, 2024
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I just stumbled on a wikipedia article about them, a few weeks ago, it genuinely warmed my heart Like, I may have never met them but I felt like "those are my people."
 
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