Does anyone happen to know how painful the urge to vomit after taking SN is? I hate the feeling of having to throw up

[NotWhatIExpected]

I probably can't get meto due to logistical constraints I'm under, so my plan is to take a "lesser" anti-emetic in the hopes that it will at least do something

I will fight the urge to vomit for as long as possible (not interested in doing that to a torturous amount), and have a second glass handy in case I do throw up

My hope is that enough gets absorbed by that time that I'll die

I hope also it's not a brutal urge to throw up because that sort of defeats much of the purpose of it being a painless method

EDIT: Also if two teaspoons of SN is about 25g, is that normal teaspoons or "heaping teaspoons"?

(I've read one post that describes 25g of SN as being three teaspoons so go figure)

 

[nihilist_fool]

don't have the answer to your question, but if vomitting is something that makes you very uncomfortable, I would not go with SN. I know for me, I would not want to die in an uncomfortable or painful way. I believe you deserve the same for yourself. An anti-emetic will make things run as smoothly possible for you. If you have a fear of vomitting you're probably going to be more likely to do so as well.

if you insist on SN w/o a good anti-emetic, then perhaps it might do you well to practise vomitting? I'm bulimic and vomitting was very scary and uncomfortable when I first started, but eventually I (unluckily) got used to it. That way if you do end up taking the SN up, you will at least be used to the feeling.

 

[GinaIsReady]

The way I see it is that the discomfort of throwing up is well worth achieving the desired outcome. It's just puking! You'll be on an empty stomach so it won't even be that bad!

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

The way I see it is that the discomfort of throwing up is well worth achieving the desired outcome. It's just puking! You'll be on an empty stomach so it won't even be that bad!

I hate the idea of having to make some sacrifice or punish myself (even in some minor way)

Also isn't the goal supposed to be to prevent yourself from puking with SN?

don't have the answer to your question, but if vomitting is something that makes you very uncomfortable, I would not go with SN. I know for me, I would not want to die in an uncomfortable or painful way. I believe you deserve the same for yourself. An anti-emetic will make things run as smoothly possible for you. If you have a fear of vomitting you're probably going to be more likely to do so as well.

if you insist on SN w/o a good anti-emetic, then perhaps it might do you well to practise vomitting? I'm bulimic and vomitting was very scary and uncomfortable when I first started, but eventually I (unluckily) got used to it. That way if you do end up taking the SN up, you will at least be used to the feeling.

My ideal was going to be a gun in my mouth but that fell through and idk if I could still buy a gun for at least a few years

N or the Rebreather seem preferable but harder to buy

Cyanide is not as easy to buy online as it used to be

The rodenticide alpha-chloralose (unlike its agonizing blood-thinner counterparts) is not legal in my country

So I'm not exactly flush with painless options

 

[GinaIsReady]

I hate the idea of having to make some sacrifice or punish myself (even in some minor way)

Also isn't the goal supposed to be to prevent yourself from puking with SN?

My ideal was going to be a gun in my mouth but that fell through and idk if I could still buy a gun for at least a few years

N or the Rebreather seem preferable but harder to buy

Cyanide is not as easy to buy online as it used to be

The rodenticide alpha-chloralose (unlike its agonizing blood-thinner counterparts) is not legal in my country

Puking is not punishing yourself. Look at the big picture. I personally think that if you are not willing to puke to die then you aren't really suicidal.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

Puking is not punishing yourself. Look at the big picture. I personally think that if you are not willing to puke to die then you aren't really suicidal.

No I'm saying the idea behind SN is that it is way more effective if you don't puke

If it's a very light effort to prevent yourself from puking, then that seems like a decent trade-off to me, but if it's awful (there are many degrees of "awful") I'd be kinda sad to have that be my way to die, but more importantly I'd be afraid that the urge to throw up is way too hard for me to fight and I fail at the SN method

 

[GinaIsReady]

There is no way of knowing how your body will react to the SN until you take it. I'm fully expecting to puke (though I'll be using either Meto or Domperidone), which I also despise, so I'll down another cup of SN and I'll put up with whatever suffering may come until I lose consciousness. That suffering cannot compare to the suffering I have experienced in my life and so I know I'll be able to handle it. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do.

I originally bought N but was scammed and have about half as much as I need. SN isn't sexy but it appears to get the job done.

I wish you all the best with your journey, @NotWhatIExpected

 

[k75]

There's no way to predict what kind of vomiting you'll experience. Some people reported what sounds like projectile vomiting, but most seemed milder. I doubt it'll be painful, though. Vomiting can be intensely unpleasant, but it's not usually painful.

 

[jgm63]

I probably can't get meto due to logistical constraints I'm under, so my plan is to take a "lesser" anti-emetic in the hopes that it will at least do something

I will fight the urge to vomit for as long as possible (not interested in doing that to a torturous amount), and have a second glass handy in case I do throw up

My hope is that enough gets absorbed by that time that I'll die

I hope also it's not a brutal urge to throw up because that sort of defeats much of the purpose of it being a painless method

Could you possibly get an over the counter antiemetic ?

Spoiler: over-the-counter-otc-antiemetics

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/over-the-counter-otc-antiemetics.31372/

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Some folks puke with anti emetics. Some folks don't puke without them.

Deep breathing helps destimulate the vagus nerve. You can do deep-breathing asap after ingesting. You can do visualizations to prep, imagining sensations, how you will deal with them, etc. Athletes do this over an over before an event to increase confidence and success, and to know how they will overcome anything that may come up.

 

[Ghost2211]

Vomiting as a reaction to your body being poisoned works a little bit different than vomiting from illness or digestive issues. If you are going to vomit it is likely to be pretty spontaneous and not preventable, so I would keep a bag or a bowl nearby.

 

[bpdandme]

I don't want to practise bad advice or say the wrong thing because I believe everyone is different and there are probably lots of different variables. I took SN and regretted it straight after, I wasn't sick, I couldn't even force myself to be sick. I didnt take any anti emetics, just fasted.

 

[aloneintheworld]

Some folks puke with anti emetics. Some folks don't puke without them.

Deep breathing helps destimulate the vagus nerve. You can do deep-breathing asap after ingesting. You can do visualizations to prep, imagining sensations, how you will deal with them, etc. Athletes do this over an over before an event to increase confidence and success, and to know how they will overcome anything that may come up.

I know an exercise to stimulate the vagus nerve is that helpful or do you want to deistimulate it?

 

[k75]

I don't want to practise bad advice or say the wrong thing because I believe everyone is different and there are probably lots of different variables. I took SN and regretted it straight after, I wasn't sick, I couldn't even force myself to be sick. I didnt take any anti emetics, just fasted.

I think it's important to say how much you ingested with this account. That makes a difference. (I read your other thread... Welcome back, by the way.)

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I know an exercise to stimulate the vagus nerve is that helpful or do you want to deistimulate it?

I think stimulation causes vomiting. I'm not certain but not terribly motivated to figure it out.

Thank you for the offer. Perhaps it will benefit others to share here if you've found it helps you to not vomit.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

Could you possibly get an over the counter antiemetic ?

Spoiler: over-the-counter-otc-antiemetics

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/over-the-counter-otc-antiemetics.31372/

Yes I can and have

 

[jgm63]

Yes I can and have

ok, good....

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

There's no way to predict what kind of vomiting you'll experience. Some people reported what sounds like projectile vomiting, but most seemed milder. I doubt it'll be painful, though. Vomiting can be intensely unpleasant, but it's not usually painful.

I feel like the immediate minutes/seconds before vomiting are to me painful and unpleasant (as well as the first initial part of the process of vomiting), even if I normally feel relief right after

Vomiting as a reaction to your body being poisoned works a little bit different than vomiting from illness or digestive issues. If you are going to vomit it is likely to be pretty spontaneous and not preventable, so I would keep a bag or a bowl nearby.

Yeah I was planning on keeping a garbage can close by

I don't want to practise bad advice or say the wrong thing because I believe everyone is different and there are probably lots of different variables. I took SN and regretted it straight after, I wasn't sick, I couldn't even force myself to be sick. I didnt take any anti emetics, just fasted.

What happened? Regret from pain or regret from potentially ending your life? Did you call EMS?

 

[jgm63]

I don't want to practise bad advice or say the wrong thing because I believe everyone is different and there are probably lots of different variables. I took SN and regretted it straight after, I wasn't sick, I couldn't even force myself to be sick. I didnt take any anti emetics, just fasted.

Interesting....
What you do you weigh ?
Do you know how many grams of SN you took ?

 

[Otter]

I guess one could continue attempting each time using very small amount of added water. I know diluting is not best, but if that's the only way you can keep from vomiting, it might work. If it doesn't, it doesn't.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I hope also it's not a brutal urge to throw up because that sort of defeats much of the purpose of it being a painless method

A caveat: I don't believe in saying "there, there" or giving platitudes so someone will feel temporarily better, only to end up hurt by what they justly feared to begin with because I didn't respond to their concerns truthfully.

There is a myth that SN is peaceful and/or painless. It is almost always not. If one can tolerate the symptoms, then they will experience more peace. There are plenty of anecdotes gathered in two threads that unequivocally demonstrate it is not a relaxing experience, and that meto often does not impede vomiting. PPH gives SN, I believe, a 6/10 on the peacefulness scale (don't quote me, research for yourself). The negative effects are because the body is doing all it can to combat a toxin. Unfortunately, we can't have a rational conversation with the body to support rather than fight our decision to ctb. The body is pro-health.

If you truly cannot deal with vomiting, I gently suggest researching other methods. The methods that are the least intolerable are the ones to go for. If the desired method is impractical, inaccessible, or harmful to others, move on to the next best method. If things are so bad you must escape at all costs or face something worse, the escape will take precedence. For example, if I'd been in the World Trade Center, I would have had to face the fire; I cannot overcome my terror of great heights.

Sending empathy and compassion for all your dilemmas.

 

[Egddios]

I have SN however no meto. I'm saving the Zofran I'm prescribed and plan to take the rest of it when the night comes.

Now, when I try to realistically imagine what will transpire once I've ingested the SN, I see myself in bed, likely in the fetal position. Somehow, for me, curling myself up is instinctual when I'm really nauseous.

I expect discomfort.

In the meantime, since I'm not taking the Zofran as I should be since I'm saving it all for when I go, I've been using pure ginger extract in just about everything I drink. Apart from loving ginger anyway, it helps a lot in terms of being able to hold food/beverages down and settling my stomach.

I may add ginger with the SN drink OR take a few big drops after I've taken the SN.

 

[one4all]

I have SN however no meto. I'm saving the Zofran I'm prescribed and plan to take the rest of it when the night comes.

Now, when I try to realistically imagine what will transpire once I've ingested the SN, I see myself in bed, likely in the fetal position. Somehow, for me, curling myself up is instinctual when I'm really nauseous.

I expect discomfort.

In the meantime, since I'm not taking the Zofran as I should be since I'm saving it all for when I go, I've been using pure ginger extract in just about everything I drink. Apart from loving ginger anyway, it helps a lot in terms of being able to hold food/beverages down and settling my stomach.

I may add ginger with the SN drink OR take a few big drops after I've taken the SN.

I have seen a lot about ginger and it's therapeutic effects for stomach issues. Can't hurt to use that also. You may want to take that before the SN though. To give it time to work.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

At this point I'm mainly just worried about the repercussions to the people I know if I do it

It would be one thing if I could give my point of view on the matter but I really can't

Even if I convinced them I run the risk of distressing them too much and having them jeopardize the running of their own lives, or having some crackdown hit them if they accept it (like the kind that affect Australian Exit International members)

I just hate it because if I ever come close to really messing up in life I'm never given the opportunity to avoid doing so

I could whine more but my fear is that that might actually lead to worse repercussions and worsen my situation

Idk if any pro-life people are reading this or if it makes a difference if they are, but please let people have a way out

 

[one4all]

At this point I'm mainly just worried about the repercussions to the people I know if I do it

It would be one thing if I could give my point of view on the matter but I really can't

Even if I convinced them I run the risk of distressing them too much and having them jeopardize the running of their own lives, or having some crackdown hit them if they accept it (like the kind that affect Australian Exit International members)

I just hate it because if I ever come close to really messing up in life I'm never given the opportunity to avoid doing so

I could whine more but my fear is that that might actually lead to worse repercussions and worsen my situation

Idk if any pro-life people are reading this or if it makes a difference if they are, but please let people have a way out

If you have doubts. All i can really say is sit back and think your actions out. Your actions can affect other people and yourself
. I can't give you BS about what i know you are going through or how it will affect people, because i'm not in your shoes.
There are people here i would think that might be able to talk with you to sort thinks out. You could try reaching out to them.
One life long decision for something short term, might not be the answer

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

If you have doubts. All i can really say is sit back and think your actions out. Your actions can affect other people and yourself
. I can't give you BS about what i know you are going through or how it will affect people, because i'm not in your shoes.
There are people here i would think that might be able to talk with you to sort thinks out. You could try reaching out to them.
One life long decision for something short term, might not be the answer

It is nothing short-term

In a less harsh world they could probably move on fairly easily but that does not appear to be the world we live in

It is unfair also that everything I say to talk about the circumstances in life (in general) that make suicide preferable or the best means to do it can be used against the cause of allowing a voluntary and painless suicide