Captive of Mind

Captive of Mind

Memento mori
Aug 11, 2020
409
like they are completely empty and yet filled with crushing emotions at the same time? I am hollowed out and don't have a single piece of my life in tact. All that is left are memories, thoughts, and emotions that consume me. This hurts so much.

I never did fit in anywhere. I am defective and fuck up everything I get into. It's not a guarantee that everyone has the ability to live a good life. There are also people with good lives who don't want to live them. I would have been gone by now, but the prospect of getting N has got me clinging on a bit longer. I'm losing my mind even more and I hope I don't have to wait long.
 
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BLUE1970

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Nov 3, 2020
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I don't feel, that is my issue....I'm just meh 24/7
 
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Aug 2, 2020
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I had N on previous occasions before I had to give it up (really regret it now). What I do remember is that obtaining N didn't by itself make me more "ready" to go through with it, although it did give me a great sense of security that I could go in a humane way. As for emotions, I don't feel much of anything these days except tinges of sadness here and there for how my life turned out to be so painful and cruel. The rest of the time I'm just trying to tune out the trauma and just not feel anything.
 
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All I feel is misery 24/7
 
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Yeah, I feel like I'm losing my mind right now. Really agitated.
 
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Captive of Mind

Captive of Mind

Memento mori
Aug 11, 2020
409
I don't feel, that is my issue....I'm just meh 24/7
Consider yourself lucky. This fucking hurts. Thank you for replying though. I posted this to release some steam that has been building up and connecting with others helps.
I had N on previous occasions before I had to give it up (really regret it now). What I do remember is that obtaining N didn't by itself make me more "ready" to go through with it, although it did give me a great sense of security that I could go in a humane way. As for emotions, I don't feel much of anything these days except tinges of sadness here and there for how my life turned out to be so painful and cruel. The rest of the time I'm just trying to tune out the trauma and just not feel anything.
Wow, so you're actually one of the few who acquired N.. I'm sure that if you still had some desire to live then having the option of N would make it easier to go on.

I see that you know what it is to feel empty and numb. Despite being beaten down by life, you are still charmed enough by life to continue on? What is it that makes everything worth it to you, if you don't mind me asking?
All I feel is misery 24/7
That is pretty heavy. I try to distract myself but it is always there. Whether it's in the background or full force fucking me up until I'm in tears. I'm so weak.. It disgusts me how fucking weak I am. Like the runt of the litter, I will be killed off. Thank the lord for natural selection.
Yeah, I feel like I'm losing my mind right now. Really agitated.
It is not a good feeling.. May I ask what is making you agitated?
 
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WornOutLife

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I'd say something like "make some new memories and live a happy life" but that would be an absolute lie.
Living is so hard and as you say, there are people who are living really good lives but CTB anyway.
 
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Jul 26, 2020
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I'd say something like "make some new memories and live a happy life" but that would be an absolute lie.
Living is so hard and as you say, there are people who are living really good lives but CTB anyway.
I am one of them.
It's kind of from a perspective of "white collar suicide" that I think about. Like it looks like you have it all on the outside, looks, disposable cash, travel, girls, job, whatever.
But there's an influx of loss or stress and it all goes ass up.

Like why would I consider suicide? I'm literally tanning naked on a roof in Mexico as I type this, not a concern in the world, tons of food and friends and a nice house. But it goes back to your first post. Feeling like nothing, and being crushed by emotions at the same time. Loss of identity. Ego death.
 
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Captive of Mind

Memento mori
Aug 11, 2020
409
I'd say something like "make some new memories and live a happy life" but that would be an absolute lie.
Living is so hard and as you say, there are people who are living really good lives but CTB anyway.
I know for a fact that I could make new memories and I would have times of happiness. The problem is that, knowing who and how I am, the suffering of life in general is too much for my weak ass.
 
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like they are completely empty and yet filled with crushing emotions at the same time? I am hollowed out and don't have a single piece of my life in tact. All that is left are memories, thoughts, and emotions that consume me. This hurts so much.

I never did fit in anywhere. I am defective and fuck up everything I get into. It's not a guarantee that everyone has the ability to live a good life. There are also people with good lives who don't want to live them. I would have been gone by now, but the prospect of getting N has got me clinging on a bit longer. I'm losing my mind even more and I hope I don't have to wait long.

propably exactly feeling the same!
Your are not alone
Go the way your hearth tells you
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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I don't feel just as you do, but I can relate. I appreciate that you posted because I'm still working this out. Maybe there will be something you can relate to?

What happened was I finally dumped all my parents' stuff onto them, a literal lifetime's worth that I'd had foisted onto me and carried, and then I realized I not only don't need to focus on them anymore, I don't want to -- not the memories, the anger, the frustration, the guilt, the hope of a future, the fear of them interacting in my future, etc. I think I just want to be done and move forward and be free, but I also have to recognize that this is it -- I accept they won't change, I accept they are unacceptable for me and to me, I give up all hope, I give up what I thought was love, I give up being tethered and I'm actually free. No more bait-and-switch masquerading as a safe family that protects and grounds me wherever I am in the world.

No hate, no rejection; no love, no clinging.

Just...done.

I had a fear that by letting go of the past and not focusing anymore on healing and getting better and getting free that I'm not only losing a near life-long focus, but that by doing so I could be risking dissociating -- as if I were shoving it all aside and risking forgetting, when actually, it none of it needs my attention anymore, and I am now self-associating. I may have achieved the pinnacle I sought without even realizing I'd arrived! I think the fear of dissocation is an old subconscious threat so I'll keep clinging to and focusing on what is not me, instead of claiming and focusing on what is. It is no longer disallowed, and it hasn't been for longer than I knew.

If I let them go like that as I want to, as is sane and healthy, if I move forward untethered...I thought, "Well then what do I focus on?" and I felt an emptiness inside -- that's what stuck out for me most of all in your post. I had never felt that before. I didn't realize how much they filled me, how much they'd held hostage, how much they'd actually met their goal of blocking me from being myself, entering myself; how strong had been the narcissistic projection of my mother into myself, and how I didn't get to develop because I was always fighting her being there where she had no right to be, and it put my focus on her instead of on me.

Now I'm not sure what to do without the feelings, emotions, and the intrusions of memories and future-tripping. I'm not sure what to do with me, I was never allowed to be there before, even though I've constantly fought to be there, defended myself, planned for a battle with every personal choice I made, or plotted how to get approval and acceptance for every personal choice. I'm not sure what to do without the battles and plotting, they've taken up so much attention and energy. But by talking about this, I realize I've already started to fill in a bit since I discovered the emptiness. So thank you for posting, I really benefitted. I hope you benefit from my comment and if not, from someone else's.
 
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Captive of Mind

Memento mori
Aug 11, 2020
409
I am one of them.
It's kind of from a perspective of "white collar suicide" that I think about. Like it looks like you have it all on the outside, looks, disposable cash, travel, girls, job, whatever.
But there's an influx of loss or stress and it all goes ass up.

Like why would I consider suicide? I'm literally tanning naked on a roof in Mexico as I type this, not a concern in the world, tons of food and friends and a nice house. But it goes back to your first post. Feeling like nothing, and being crushed by emotions at the same time. Loss of identity. Ego death.
Damn, dude. It's difficult for me to relate with you. You have a lot of positives to balance things out. At the same time, I recognize that even people who have all of that could be in mental agony. Plus, the person who has everything also has everything to lose. Do you plan on catching the bus or do you still desire to keep going?
propably exactly feeling the same!
Your are not alone
Go the way your hearth tells you
It is good to know I'm not the only one. Loneliness hurts so much, and the people here make me feel heard and understood. I hope the forum offers this to you too.
 
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Pharmaruined

Nobody gets out alive
Sep 10, 2020
247
I don't feel just as you do, but I can relate. I appreciate that you posted because I'm still working this out. Maybe there will be something you can relate to?

What happened was I finally dumped all my parents' stuff onto them, a literal lifetime's worth that I'd had foisted onto me and carried, and then I realized I not only don't need to focus on them anymore, I don't want to -- not the memories, the anger, the frustration, the guilt, the hope of a future, the fear of them interacting in my future, etc. I think I just want to be done and move forward and be free, but I also have to recognize that this is it -- I accept they won't change, I accept they are unacceptable for me and to me, I give up all hope, I give up what I thought was love, I give up being tethered and I'm actually free. No more bait-and-switch masquerading as a safe family that protects and grounds me wherever I am in the world.

No hate, no rejection; no love, no clinging.

Just...done.

I had a fear that by letting go of the past and not focusing anymore on healing and getting better and getting free that I'm not only losing a near life-long focus, but that by doing so I could be risking dissociating -- as if I were shoving it all aside and risking forgetting, when actually, it none of it needs my attention anymore, and I am now self-associating. I may have achieved the pinnacle I sought without even realizing I'd arrived! I think the fear of dissocation is an old subconscious threat so I'll keep clinging to and focusing on what is not me, instead of claiming and focusing on what is. It is no longer disallowed, and it hasn't been for longer than I knew.

If I let them go like that as I want to, as is sane and healthy, if I move forward untethered...I thought, "Well then what do I focus on?" and I felt an emptiness inside -- that's what stuck out for me most of all in your post. I had never felt that before. I didn't realize how much they filled me, how much they'd held hostage, how much they'd actually met their goal of blocking me from being myself, entering myself; how strong had been the narcissistic projection of my mother into myself, and how I didn't get to develop because I was always fighting her being there where she had no right to be, and it put my focus on her instead of on me.

Now I'm not sure what to do without the feelings, emotions, and the intrusions of memories and future-tripping. I'm not sure what to do with me, I was never allowed to be there before, even though I've constantly fought to be there, defended myself, planned for a battle with every personal choice I made, or plotted how to get approval and acceptance for every personal choice. I'm not sure what to do without the battles and plotting, they've taken up so much attention and energy. But by talking about this, I realize I've already started to fill in a bit since I discovered the emptiness. So thank you for posting, I really benefitted. I hope you benefit from my comment and if not, from someone else's.

Check out "the power of now" by eckart Tolle

get into that space between thoughts, that is your higher power. The witnessing presence of your mind/ego .
that noise in your head will actually subside as you recognize your higher peaceful , calm self as the master and your racing mind as the unruly child.

Once it clicks and makes sense, you'll realize that power forever
 
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Captive of Mind

Memento mori
Aug 11, 2020
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I don't feel just as you do, but I can relate. I appreciate that you posted because I'm still working this out. Maybe there will be something you can relate to?

What happened was I finally dumped all my parents' stuff onto them, a literal lifetime's worth that I'd had foisted onto me and carried, and then I realized I not only don't need to focus on them anymore, I don't want to -- not the memories, the anger, the frustration, the guilt, the hope of a future, the fear of them interacting in my future, etc. I think I just want to be done and move forward and be free, but I also have to recognize that this is it -- I accept they won't change, I accept they are unacceptable for me and to me, I give up all hope, I give up what I thought was love, I give up being tethered and I'm actually free. No more bait-and-switch masquerading as a safe family that protects and grounds me wherever I am in the world.

No hate, no rejection; no love, no clinging.

Just...done.

I had a fear that by letting go of the past and not focusing anymore on healing and getting better and getting free that I'm not only losing a near life-long focus, but that by doing so I could be risking dissociating -- as if I were shoving it all aside and risking forgetting, when actually, it none of it needs my attention anymore, and I am now self-associating. I may have achieved the pinnacle I sought without even realizing I'd arrived! I think the fear of dissocation is an old subconscious threat so I'll keep clinging to and focusing on what is not me, instead of claiming and focusing on what is. It is no longer disallowed, and it hasn't been for longer than I knew.

If I let them go like that as I want to, as is sane and healthy, if I move forward untethered...I thought, "Well then what do I focus on?" and I felt an emptiness inside -- that's what stuck out for me most of all in your post. I had never felt that before. I didn't realize how much they filled me, how much they'd held hostage, how much they'd actually met their goal of blocking me from being myself, entering myself; how strong had been the narcissistic projection of my mother into myself, and how I didn't get to develop because I was always fighting her being there where she had no right to be, and it put my focus on her instead of on me.

Now I'm not sure what to do without the feelings, emotions, and the intrusions of memories and future-tripping. I'm not sure what to do with me, I was never allowed to be there before, even though I've constantly fought to be there, defended myself, planned for a battle with every personal choice I made, or plotted how to get approval and acceptance for every personal choice. I'm not sure what to do without the battles and plotting, they've taken up so much attention and energy. But by talking about this, I realize I've already started to fill in a bit since I discovered the emptiness. So thank you for posting, I really benefitted. I hope you benefit from my comment and if not, from someone else's.
There you are! Again, with your thoughtful replies that go deep..

The advice you gave about not struggling to change or fix issues that other people bring into your life is very wise. Obviously, you have to be able to solve problems and not be completely nonreactive, but knowing the right time to accept things as is and move on is crucial. Facing your past, understanding what happened, and letting go of it is liberating and I'm glad you were able to reach that point. I think that there are plenty of people on this forum who will benefit from listening to your advice.

It sounds like your parents were involved in your life pretty heavily, although they made more of a negative impact. As for me, my parents have been less involved in my life and I don't have a strong connection with either of them. Our family isn't tight and the whole situation is sad all around.

You are usually the one figuring out how to deal with people that you don't want in your life, but it seems like I am the person that people don't want around. I'm done trying to figure out what I should say and how I should act so that I'm not a toxic person or someone people avoid. I know there are ways to learn how to do things the "right" way, but I'm just done. I don't even care anymore. I wish it came naturally to me but it doesn't.

Besides that, I hate how humans interact with each other. All of the social games you have to play. People will judge and scrutinize every little thing you do, say, or think. I am a social outcast and at the same time an extrovert who craves human interaction. It is sickening.. I wasn't cut out for this and I'm done trying to force myself to push on.

I could see that you are able to process your approach to life through your posts and I could see that you were able to do so with this one as well. I'm glad you choose to do this on the forum because your thoughts will surely influence others to come to your same realizations.
 
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VIBRITANNIA

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Aug 10, 2020
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i understand you. having no emotions and yet so many makes me wonder if i'm even human in the first place. hell is inside my head.
 
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Captive of Mind

Memento mori
Aug 11, 2020
409
i understand you. having no emotions and yet so many makes me wonder if i'm even human in the first place. hell is inside my head.
Being human is a very strange predicament. Have you ever looked into "Dante's Inferno"? There are youtube videos that summarize it. It describes what hell is like and who is there. In my opinion, he is describing the world we already live in using metaphors.
 
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dropdeadfred

Boarding the bus to Everlasting Dreamland ♡
Oct 19, 2020
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Yes, empty & painfully full at the same time.
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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Check out "the power of now" by eckart Tolle

get into that space between thoughts, that is your higher power. The witnessing presence of your mind/ego .
that noise in your head will actually subside as you recognize your higher peaceful , calm self as the master and your racing mind as the unruly child.

Once it clicks and makes sense, you'll realize that power forever

Thanks for the suggestion. :) I have similar tools. I tried to engage with him years ago, he's got some good points and some "Yeah,no" that I have a hard time shutting out, but you weren't totally off the mark, it's the similar tools that have helped me arrive at this point. I acknowledge your critical eye and your kind generosity in offering something that related.

There you are! Again, with your thoughtful replies that go deep..

The advice you gave about not struggling to change or fix issues that other people bring into your life is very wise. Obviously, you have to be able to solve problems and not be completely nonreactive, but knowing the right time to accept things as is and move on is crucial. Facing your past, understanding what happened, and letting go of it is liberating and I'm glad you were able to reach that point. I think that there are plenty of people on this forum who will benefit from listening to your advice.

It sounds like your parents were involved in your life pretty heavily, although they made more of a negative impact. As for me, my parents have been less involved in my life and I don't have a strong connection with either of them. Our family isn't tight and the whole situation is sad all around.

You are usually the one figuring out how to deal with people that you don't want in your life, but it seems like I am the person that people don't want around. I'm done trying to figure out what I should say and how I should act so that I'm not a toxic person or someone people avoid. I know there are ways to learn how to do things the "right" way, but I'm just done. I don't even care anymore. I wish it came naturally to me but it doesn't.

Besides that, I hate how humans interact with each other. All of the social games you have to play. People will judge and scrutinize every little thing you do, say, or think. I am a social outcast and at the same time an extrovert who craves human interaction. It is sickening.. I wasn't cut out for this and I'm done trying to force myself to push on.

I could see that you are able to process your approach to life through your posts and I could see that you were able to do so with this one as well. I'm glad you choose to do this on the forum because your thoughts will surely influence others to come to your same realizations.

First, thank you for your generosity in sharing your space here.

Second, interesting dichotomy!

After I commented, I reflected on how my dad didn't want me around and abandoned me without leaving (he was the enabler to his opposite, my mother), and I've spent my life chasing him for connection, acceptance and approval. He's an introvert and has a lot of social anxiety. He, however, find his social roles and fits in them, but he can't get close to people even though they like him and want him to.

Third, I'm an extrovert, too, who craves connection. This kind of stuff is HARD (bold in the quote). It would be easier if I were like the monks who go off in caves alone and meditate and detach. I'm so tired of not being accepted, or being accepted and drawn from and then discarded. I often think it would have been easier to be someone who doesn't analyze both the external and the internal, and accepts her highly-defined, limited space in the social order. I get what you're saying about never finding the "right" way and not fitting in, and the intolerable bullshit of social systems outside the family. I stick out, and I'm either reviled and eventually respected, or reviled and shat upon until I leave, or liked/admired and then eventually discarded because I still don't fit that social order, or liked and drawn from until I finally cut it off. I have never comfortably fit in any social group long-term, I've never had a "place." And I hear you, I'm at the point of where I can't take much more of it, either. So thank you for elaborating, it was eloquent and revelatory, and I send you a big empathetic hug.
 
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Weary Soul

Soon I will be free
Nov 13, 2019
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I feel too much.

I see what the world is today and am horrified, with the few exceptions of random acts of kindness (which IMO should be the norm).

My mind feels like a never-ending cat F5 tornado of emotions that is destroying itself.

I get absolutely no internal, mental peace.

I cannot take mood stabilizers as I have a history of seizures from them.

I am tired and just want it to stop.
 
degeneratewaste

degeneratewaste

dressed for the grave.
Aug 24, 2020
264
like they are completely empty and yet filled with crushing emotions at the same time?
this first sentence is extremely powerful for me. as someone who has survived trauma, this is a perfect description. I am empty; everything is all repressed deeply. I feel like a robot.

but once you get a glimpse into that pandora's box, it is like a screaming, desperate emotional hell. it is duality. it is jekyll and hyde. and it is so difficult.

you are strong, my friend. I am sorry that you feel like such a shell of your former self. and I am proud of you for hanging on this long.
 
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