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I was thinking that I should try at least some medication before I decide to ctb, however my problem is that I'm extremely afraid of vomiting and I hate being nauseated. And as far as I know most modern antidepressants cause these things which I can't live with, I rather be depressed. I'm also skeptical if these drugs will solve any of my problems but I have nothing to lose, I guess.

People who took anti depressants, did you have any of these side effects? I searched online for SSRI but they usually all have this side effects, so not sure how to avoid it or minimise it.
 
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I was thinking that I should try at least some medication before I decide to ctb, however my problem is that I'm extremely afraid of vomiting and I hate being nauseated. And as far as I know most modern antidepressants cause these things which I can't live with, I rather be depressed. I'm also skeptical if these drugs will solve any of my problems but I have nothing to lose, I guess.

People who took anti depressants, did you have any of these side effects? I searched online for SSRI but they usually all have this side effects, so not sure how to avoid it or minimise it.
Best thing to do is speak to a psychiatrist.

Personal experience:

Sertraline had the most noticeable effect on me at first. I felt like a zombie, had no emotion, and could not do anything.

There are plenty of other medications.

I would also suggest trying to engage in psychological therapy too.

Best of luck to you.
 
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Best thing to do is speak to a psychiatrist.

Personal experience:

Sertraline had the most noticeable effect on me at first. I felt like a zombie, had no emotion, and could not do anything.

There are plenty of other medications.

I would also suggest trying to engage in psychological therapy too.

Best of luck to you.

Thanks for your reply. Is this the aim to achieve with these kind of medication? To suppress feelings and become a zombie? I mean I'm a bit confused if it's a good or a bad thing tbh.
 
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Thanks for your reply. Is this the aim to achieve with these kind of medication? To suppress feelings and become a zombie? I mean I'm a bit confused if it's a good or a bad thing tbh.
I don't think the aim of the medication is to feel like a zombie. I think that's perhaps a bit of an extreme reaction to be fair.
The aim, as far as I am able to define it, is to suppress feelings of depression or anxiety.

For me with sertraline, this worked by completely blurring my ability to think about the future.
You wouldn't necessarily think that this would have such a dramatic effect, but trust me that if you truly have no perception that you're travelling forwards in time then you 'freeze' and are like a zombie.

I'd do some research online about anti-depressants.
I would also suggest seeing a psychiatrist rather than relying on your GP. GPs are not psychiatric specialists.
That said, my suggestion would not be to allow a psychiatrist to over medicate you. Some psychiatrists go overboard, and before you know it you're on one antidepressant, one mood stabaliser, a medication for anxiety, something to help with sleep, then something to help with concentraton so as to negate the effects of the sleep medication in the morning, then another medication to dealwith the side effects of xyz drug.........................don't allow this to happen.
I stupidly allowed this to happen about 5 years ago. I went in with depression (I have bipolar) and I came out with a prescription for literally seven different medications.
Shouldn't happen.
 
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I can't believe what a moron I was. I started taking meds without knowing what they did. I now take them to deal with what a moron I was. You couldn't make it up. I've stopped as of a month ago and feel absolutely terrible. As I should. That might not be helpful I just wanted to offload. I'm a warning to others
 
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PS: if you're offered benzodiazepines then think very carefully whether you want to be on these. They can be torture to get off - a famous recent example is that of Jordan Peterson, whose case was so bad that he had to go into a recovery clinic in (I believe) Russia.
 
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I can honestly say medication has been the number one reason that I am here. I have nothing good to say about meds besides the fact the bottle that the meds come in is good for storing weed when on the go

Peace/hugs
 
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PS: if you're offered benzodiazepines then think very carefully whether you want to be on these. They can be torture to get off - a famous recent example is that of Jordan Peterson, whose case was so bad that he had to go into a recovery clinic in (I believe) Russia.
I'm already taking those sometimes. Just bought online for myself, but I rarely take them.
 
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I don't think the aim of the medication is to feel like a zombie. I think that's perhaps a bit of an extreme reaction to be fair.
The aim, as far as I am able to define it, is to suppress feelings of depression or anxiety.

For me with sertraline, this worked by completely blurring my ability to think about the future.
You wouldn't necessarily think that this would have such a dramatic effect, but trust me that if you truly have no perception that you're travelling forwards in time then you 'freeze' and are like a zombie.

I'd do some research online about anti-depressants.
I would also suggest seeing a psychiatrist rather than relying on your GP. GPs are not psychiatric specialists.
That said, my suggestion would not be to allow a psychiatrist to over medicate you. Some psychiatrists go overboard, and before you know it you're on one antidepressant, one mood stabaliser, a medication for anxiety, something to help with sleep, then something to help with concentraton so as to negate the effects of the sleep medication in the morning, then another medication to dealwith the side effects of xyz drug.........................don't allow this to happen.
I stupidly allowed this to happen about 5 years ago. I went in with depression (I have bipolar) and I came out with a prescription for literally seven different medications.
Shouldn't happen.
That's insane. I definitely won't do that, I don't believe that would be a solution for me anyways.
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What one did you buy and for what purpose?
I feel uncomfortable around people so when I have to leave my room I sometimes take some valium. Not always just sometimes to feel a bit better. 5-10 mg occasionally, but I'm not dependent on them.
I can honestly say medication has been the number one reason that I am here. I have nothing good to say about meds besides the fact the bottle that the meds come in is good for storing weed when on the go

Peace/hugs
I'm sorry to hear that. Obviously I'm not here because of them, so I thought why not give them try. But I'm very skeptical if they'll help at all and also afraid it'll make my situation worse than before.
 
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I took Vortioxetine for 3 months. It is meant to have a side effect of vomiting, but that didn't happen once to me. The main effect it had on me was uncomfortable yawning. It's a well-reviewed medication. Did nothing for me.
I also took Escitalopram. Night sweats but no vomiting. No mood improvement. I only did four weeks as my (stupid) GP didn't tell me to try it for 8 weeks or raise the dose. I was quite anti-meds at that time so I stopped it.

Zoloft - no nausea for me. Just extra agitation. Really unpleasant. But some people can ride that torture out and then some of them feel better.

Tianeptine is one of the better medications if you can get it.

Moclobemide also. They don't prescribe it as not in fashion, but side effect wise not too bad.

I don't think it is definite that the meds will cause vomiting. I don't know anyone that they had that impact. It's really hard to swallow the pills, you just have to do it.

I think St John's Wort is better than a lot of the other meds if you don't have contraindications and you read the safety info
Ps you can buy Tianeptine and Moclo online. The doctors won't prescribe them in the UK.
 
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I haven't experienced nausea with many meds, and I've tried heaps. I had the best results from Lamictal, but they didn't last.
 
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Personally, no antidepressant ever worked for me and I tried between 5 and 10 of them by now. It doesn't mean it's not worth giving a shot, but I would definitely second @BipolarGuy 's suggestion to couple it with psychotherapy. I don't believe there exists a magic pill for the type of issues people here struggle with, but the drugs may create a window of opportunity to address the underlying problems that are rooted in the psyche and external environment.

As for the side-effects, it depends largely on the drug and there are so many... my first SSRI gave me diarrhoea, but it appears it was mostly the fillers that did that, since the same drug from a different brand didn't cause any such issues (it did not give me any relief either). Again, it is still worth giving a try if you are open to it and the side-effects subside quickly once you get off of the medication or switch to a different one (the story is different with higher-caliber medication like benzodiazepines, neuroleptics, antipsychotics and other drugs of this sort).

For me with sertraline, this worked by completely blurring my ability to think about the future.
You wouldn't necessarily think that this would have such a dramatic effect, but trust me that if you truly have no perception that you're travelling forwards in time then you 'freeze' and are like a zombie.

Don't you think that this effect is particularly strong for people who generally tend to live in the past/future (ie. many people who struggle with depression and anxiety) and once that is taken away they all of a sudden find themselves in "the present" that they have never fully experienced and simply become lost and "frozen"? This is my current experience with the ketamine treatment I am on – I am just so used to obsessing about the future and overthinking the past that when brought into the present I... as if don't know what to do or think.
 
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I was thinking that I should try at least some medication before I decide to ctb, however my problem is that I'm extremely afraid of vomiting and I hate being nauseated. And as far as I know most modern antidepressants cause these things which I can't live with, I rather be depressed. I'm also skeptical if these drugs will solve any of my problems but I have nothing to lose, I guess.

People who took anti depressants, did you have any of these side effects? I searched online for SSRI but they usually all have this side effects, so not sure how to avoid it or minimise it.
the only medication I'm looking for is some benzos, metos and Propanolol for SN
 
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SSRI's didn't suit me well.
Citalopram knocked me out for weeks.
Fluoxetine made me VERY impulsive, and made anxiety worse.
Sertraline worked for a while but soon wore off.

I'm now on an SNRI called Venlafaxine, which has worked well for three years and I've only recently felt bad again, I'd recommend giving it a go at least. It's marked as a sedative but most people take it in the morning so it can't be that bad - and I haven't noticed it. Side effects I do get are: dry mouth, vivid dreams, low libido; but imo they're worth it for the years I spent happy :) Although the low libido is really sucky sometimes, especially because I'm in a relationship and feel guilty.

I also take Mirtazipine and Amitriptyline but they are sleepers so don't consider them if that's what you want to avoid!

- Acopia:heart:
 
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My experiences hove all been shit but find that pregabali. Helps my anxiety
 
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my doc has tried to find something to work for me since my son died. I've been on at least 8 different anti depressants in the last 3 years. I'd have to dig through my med closet to find all of them. I have had total brain fog for 3 yrs so I can't tell you what exactly they did for me other than not work.

I've been on xanax for 13 years. I take duoloxetine in the morning and seroquel at night. If it's an insomnia night depends on how bad if I take 1 or all 3 of the following- amitriptyline, trazadone and rozerem. The xanax I'm allowed 3 per day some days its a 4 or 5 dose day some its a 2 dose day at the end of the month it works out.

prior to my sons death I took my xanax 1-2 a day and venlafaxine for hot flashes. As mention low libido but I was single so it didn't matter.

All medications have negative side affects. I'd advise researching any med you are put on for potential long term and acute side affects. As BipolarGuy mentioned- they will load you up with a pill for this than a pill to fix what that pill caused and a ladder affect will happen and you'll have 12 pills no idea what works and what doesnt and in zombie land. If depression is caused by some chemical imbalance the idea is these anti depressants fix or change the imbalance. Each one has a benefit and a few negatives.. research and be active with your doc- as in hey Doc I read it can do this and I don't want that.. none of the meds I have taken have made me nauseous
 
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I recommend trying OTC Lithium Orotate. If you read the reviews on Amazon of different brands you will see lots of people have success with it. Worth a try.
I also recommend St John's Wort if I haven't already.
For me, SSRIs didn't work - but you could be luckier.
 
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Ketamine in small doses not cause vomiting. I might have taken one large dose once. It is good for depression. Or get over your fears on Kambo. Is it worth vomiting? Better out than in? On Ayahuasca you would be relieved to vomit as it is called purging. I am off my titson THC right now and loving it, but I know about drugs. So those are my best tips. I don't personally have emetophobia though I do know peopel that do. I did Kambo because my depression was so bad. I don't know if I'd repeat it but your face swells up like a frog and you have to swallow so much water. it is meant to be good for depression...did it help me? It helped one policewoman with PTSD. We are all different. But I recommend as above.

Also, I am on an SSRI which has never made me feel nauseous. I was previously on two other SSRIS actually three, and none of them did that to me. It is worth the risk. My third SSRI has taken away my loud suicidal thoughts. I'm not saying I am never depressed. I also depend on THC. But SSRIS can work for some people very well. you have to perservere for 12 weeks. I recommend reading Drugs.com reviews and joining the FB groups. You could be lucky.

Good luck OP
 
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I do not respond to conventional antidepressants at all. But low dose aripiprazole does seem to help with negative rumination to some extent.
 
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Hello,
i had worst depressions for more than 10 years.i tried some antidepressants,but the classical modern antidepressants didn't helped me.
what really helped me (i can only talk for myself) was johannis herbs.my doctor prescribed it for me (prescribable in germany).
it took a while (4-6 weeks) till it worked.my drive was restored after 2 months,really well.
you have to be carefull with johannis herbs if you take other medicine.johannis herbs may interact with other substances,please ask a doctor or a pharmacist.
also it is not recommended to take extensive bath in the sun.This herb can lead to a strong skin sensivity in combination with sunlight.
please be also carefull if you suffer from ptsd or an acute form of psychosis: johannis herbs can strengthen these symptoms.
it is a really strong herbal medicine and it can help, if you comply with the above conditions.
 
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I've been taking Fluoxetine for the last 2 months
It helps making the mental pain hurt less and increases my energy level
It is no magical pill to make you happy tho, you have to take advantage of the respite and pursue improvements to your life like therapy, a new job, sports, socializing... And the ctb ideation is still strong in my mind

I'm starting to take Lithium to estabilize my mood, but can't offer my opinion, since I haven't felt it's effect yet

Edit: The medications were prescribed by a psychiatrist
 
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I was thinking that I should try at least some medication before I decide to ctb, however my problem is that I'm extremely afraid of vomiting and I hate being nauseated. And as far as I know most modern antidepressants cause these things which I can't live with, I rather be depressed. I'm also skeptical if these drugs will solve any of my problems but I have nothing to lose, I guess.

People who took anti depressants, did you have any of these side effects? I searched online for SSRI but they usually all have this side effects, so not sure how to avoid it or minimise it.
I have taken a lot of prescription antidepressants. Most of them have been very helpful. Concerning the side effects that you are worried about, the way it works is every one of these medications will have a huge list of potential side effects, but you will typically only have a handful of them at most. It depends on your unique chemistry. I'm on one right now and I have 1 single side effect. That's been typical for me on the others too. I will usually have only 1 or 2 and they don't bother me much at all.

If you take one and it either doesn't work or it gives you a lot of side effects, you try another one. There are so many out there that you are likely to find one that works very well for you. The catch is that it takes trial and error and thus takes some time.

SSRIs most frequent side effect is a pronounced numbing of your sex drive. Some SSRIs are prescribed to men who have premature ejaculation for that reason. Wellbutrin is an alternative to SSRIs that will typically increase your sex drive. Both of these have helped me in the past and present.

I think the odds are very, very good that you can find one that doesn't make you nauseous. If you have symptoms of depression, as that disorder is defined by the medical profession, that's what these medicines are for and you will likely see those same symptoms go away. There are rare cases where people will not respond to any medication and have to get shock therapy to get results. This is often people whose brains have been injured by substance abuse.
 
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I tried very much antidepressants. I never had problems with nausea. But to make safe, I would tell your doctor, that you need an Antidepressant, that never cause nausea, because you are extremly afraid of that. I think, ctb without trying some medication is a stupid idea, you have only one life.
 
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Desvenlafaxine made me feel alright, and gave me really intense dreams which was cool.

If you temper your expectations you can probably find these drugs useful, it's pretty rare that they're going to "fix" you but they can smooth some things out for you. The ideal way to do it is likely to find one which has very minimal side effects while still having a noticeable effect.
 

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