Discussion Do you think you belong to the top 10.000 people with the worst lives on this planet?

[noname223]

What a great competition isn't it?

So I wanted to talk in my self-help group about the fact that I visit a suicide forum. This is how it went...

We were a big group. Many people also in this forum told me not to do it. I have found a way. I told them that I could tell an anecdote which is not appropriate for a self-help group. I told them I will change the anecdote because it is not good for a self-help group. There was a voting everyone...

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In my self-help group I debated antinatalism. And I told them feel uncomfortable with the concept of life because of the following reason. We are 8 billion people on this planet. Statistically, it is likely there are like 10 k people (tbh I think there are way more but they did not believe even that amount lol) whose lives are an extreme torture chamber. Probably over decades with barely any hope. I told them I don't necessarily think these people commit suicide. I told them I think it is more frightening if these people are paralyzed or unable to communicate their pain. And some of them are probably unable to end their lives.
I think one woman thought I consider me to belong to these top 10k. Honestly, I certainly don't think so. Maybe in Germany I belong to the top 1-3 % of people with the worst mental pain. But holy shit top 10 k worst lives of the whole world. I feel pretty privileged when I read some stories in this forum. Yes I was abused and bullied as child and teenager. Yes my therapists thought I am a hopeless case that is going to kill himself. Yes I cannot work and poverty will kill me.

But I certainly don't have hubris to pretend that. My parents support me fully (after ruining my life). Also financially. I have extremely good and loyal friends. I live in fucking Germany and my insurance covers a lot completely for free. Solely the fact I could open up in this self-help group without getting punished shows that I am privileged.

I still think my life is hell. I experience severe mental agony. But I argumented with the worst lives on this planet and I don't think I belong to them. The people in this group have vanilla issues. They argumented all people have lows and moments of joy. Lol. I told them we might have different notions what extremely horrible lives mean and which pain is involved in these cases.

 

[Davey40210]

I agree. There are people who are way worse off.

I can only imagine how they must feel.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I'm honestly probably not even in the top billion of worst lives.

Doesn't matter to me though since it still feels awful enough for me and I'm inherently too lazy, cowardly, and stupid to make my life more livable.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Definitely not! The top 10k people are most likely experiencing extreme mental as well as extreme physical pain. My pain is only general pain (albeit it's severe for me) though I do acknowledge that I'm relatively privileged overall as I don't go through any sort of physical pain, only mental pain. It's scary as to how much pain a human can go through. My pain is a lot compared to the average person but my pain is nothing compared to what the top 10k people go through

 

[Forever Sleep]

Nowhere near. The weird thing is, I probably have a much better life than at least 10,000 people who have never even considered suicide! Like you say though- it's our personal experience that matters.

When does a problem become debilitating? When that person can't seem to get over it. Plain and simple as that. Some people have suffered the most horrific things in life and yet, they seem to bounce back. Others are crushed by the tinniest disruption. It's kind of impossible to judge someone elses pain. That's the tragedy really.

 

[wCvML2]

I don't think I'm part of the 50% most worst lives in the world (whatever pain I experience is only self inflicted), but even if all the people who have worse lives than me keep going it doesn't mean I have to keep going too. I don't care because even the person with the best life on earth still has the right to end their life.

 

[ineedtogetout]

yes

 

[nux_walpurgis]

not even close

 

[Darklife200]

Nope absolutely not, but that doesn't change that I view it as an unlivable situation.

 

[shrobae]

absolutely not, but we all have different tolerances and mine happens to have run out.

 

[Steff1337]

No, but I am in the top 8 million.

 

[-nobodyknows-]

No

 

[3/4Dead]

im for sure low as fuck on the list. I'm generally rather privilaged when you look at the grand scheme.

 

[HarryCobean]

No, though the number of actual friends I can count is zero, so I am certainly joint last on that metric.

 

[heavyeyes]

No

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I'm nowhere near such a terrible life. It's subjective what we consider a good/bad life and we always have to take into account where we are located.

 

[shrobae]

I'm nowhere near such a terrible life. It's subjective what we consider a good/bad life and we always have to take into account where we are located.

preach

 

[Marine]

Definitely. There are different kinds of worst but not necessarily worse. Or you could imagine adding any element to any situation to make it worse but then it's endless. I haven't given up on getting out of it though.

 

[Plentiful_Despair]

Yes.

 

[Manfrotto99]

I can't compare myself to millions of suffering people in the world. But as far as people living in the western society I'm fairly high up there.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

The ones on this thread recognize that other people have worse lives . It's true .

Think about how bad the people with the worst 1000 lives on the planet have it. Obviously people on this site are suffering enough to want to commit suicide . But it can get even worse as people acknowledged in this thread

But anyone can fall into a trap one of the worst lives. They have most people believing that something very horrible won't happen to them and no understanding of how bad the worst pain is .Pain can be a billion times worse than everyone is led to believe. This thread gives a clue that statement is true .

This is just one reason why the monsters making nembutal and assisting suicide crimes is a heinous oppression. Everyone needs to be able to escape extreme torture . There is no reason to keep the means from escaping extreme pain from people. Sure they say the lie that's it's to protect the children. It's a lie if it was about the children then the just add proof of age over 18 instead of banning nembutal etc for everyone even 90 years olds that have had enough. Yet That age restriction wouldn't have helped Junko Furuta who was 16 when she was tortured for 44 days.

In the evil US they are about to ban SN like they banned all guaranteed suicide methods

 

[Reflection]

No, I don't think I even come close. There's just much worse and horrible things that can happen to someone, and I'm grateful for a lot of things in my life. But that still doesn't invalidate my pain, or anyone else's, which is why I don't think comparing one's life to others is a sound thing to do. The way I look at it, a horrible disease such as cancer definitey has more likelyhood to kill, but there are times when even a small wound could lead to death if not tended to properly.