Discussion do you sometimes wonder if this is a stage

[kokosnight]

do you sometimes wonder if this is a stage or if this is permanent (CTB thoughts )

 

[140 bpm]

I consider it like an ocean. It's permanent, but sometimes there's no waives, and sometimes it's fckn storm.

 

[IWantToSleep]

It's always on my mind as a backup plan even if my life goes well because I've felt so terrible before that I've accepted that it might be a necessary act, so I don't think it will ever leave some part of my mind as I'll never forget those terrible days and nights I've experienced.

 

[newave3]

All the world's a stage And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances

 

[signifying nothing]

"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

Macbeth

 

[kohaku]

My CTB thoughts are because of my depression. It's been this way for three years and so far no treatment has worked. If something works, it might finally end the thoughts. But I think I could also use a lot of therapy, which I might start this year. I want to recover, but I'm giving it a time limit, because I simply cannot stand being alive. Depression ruined my life. I didn't even finish high school. I can't get a job because it would be too stressful. I'm a pathetic dropout and a NEET.

 

[ARW3N]

Love all these Shakespeare quotes!

 

[awfullife]

My mind thinks it's a stage because I'm still in denial. My situation is unique in that I had everything. I don't "deserve" to be on here. I was popular, successful, and a very high achiever. Why me? Well after the last 5 years I realize it can happen to anybody and a couple of very poor decisions in my life contributed to it. Plus you can be a successful high achiever and not have to deal with the self loathing as you mask it with alcohol, accolades, and money. Eventually those three all go away and you are fucked. So now I do deserve to be on here and it's probably not a stage but a reality.

 

[L0b5t3r]

If it's a stage it's a life long one ....

 

[the_final_countdown]

I've noticed a lot of people who are suicidal because of beliefs about their life use particular words and phrases. They tend to catastrophize everything.

I once had severe insomnia precisely because the language I used, the thought patterns I created, and expectations of the future all spiraled together.

I suspect many (but not all) people could slowly move away from suicidal ideation if it's because of beliefs about the future. You can reliably rewire your brain.

I suspect people with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder probably have a harder uphill battle, since the foundation of their mind operates with slightly different rules. The same way some autistic people report having problems with some sensory information (like faces).

Lastly there are people with chronic health problems that I have the deepest sympathies for, because these problems seem to be the most intractable. You can only numb physical pain so much. Requires an iron will and a lifetime of focus to bear the suffering and still keep up with one's responsibilities without losing your mind.

 

[MrAsclepius]

Indeed, after the decades of pain i ask myself, 'is this temporary?'

But I understand it could be for others.

 

[Intotheflames]

It is a series of stage, that each individual stage can turn into permanence. Like Sisyphus rolling stone uphill, I completed the mission many times yet just when I thought that's it, the stone be back to the bottom and start over again. I am too tired to move and now choose to stay at the bottom permanently.

 

[KleinerWolf]

I don't like the role, can I quit?

You bet.

 

[L0b5t3r]

I don't like the role, can I quit?

You bet.

I thought that was part of the purpose of this forum

 

[KleinerWolf]

I thought that was part of the purpose of this forum

Ja natürlich

 

[Deleted member 15256]

I consider it like an ocean. It's permanent, but sometimes there's no waives, and sometimes it's fckn storm.

Well said

 

[ARW3N]

I've noticed a lot of people who are suicidal because of beliefs about their life use particular words and phrases. They tend to catastrophize everything.

I once had severe insomnia precisely because the language I used, the thought patterns I created, and expectations of the future all spiraled together.

I suspect many (but not all) people could slowly move away from suicidal ideation if it's because of beliefs about the future. You can reliably rewire your brain.

I suspect people with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder probably have a harder uphill battle, since the foundation of their mind operates with slightly different rules. The same way some autistic people report having problems with some sensory information (like faces).

Lastly there are people with chronic health problems that I have the deepest sympathies for, because these problems seem to be the most intractable. You can only numb physical pain so much. Requires an iron will and a lifetime of focus to bear the suffering and still keep up with one's responsibilities without losing your mind.

In a way you are right. Some mental health problems are purely psychological whilst others are to do with faulty brain chemistry. There are schools of psychotherapy which try to address the psychological problems. Even ECT can sometimes reboot the brain and break a depressive cycle. One of my favourite books is "The Myth of Sisyphus" by Albert Camus inspired by the myth of a man condemned to ceaselessly push a rock up a mountain and watch it roll back to the valley below. The strange thing is that Camus despite the absurdity of life didn't die a suicide nor does he recommend suicide as a way to escape the absurdity of life.