DO YOU HAVE CTB PLAN B

[a.h]

Hi,

I have been here long time. I wanted to be 100% sure and ready. I have everything for fast and peacefull leave. But now after reading so many horror stories of failing and ending locked up I started to think that is plan B needed too. Those of you that are leaving for sure and don't have Nembutal, have you gotten your plan B for other method?

Would it be wise to get the salt etc. in hand if you get caught or if the method is not working as well as it should and take lots of it then?
In my country psych ward prison system is really bad. Like so bad that a friend from school had to jump from its window even it wasn't tall building at all. He was lucky to die since I bet he didn't want to end up there again.

I have bottles of pure He too but not any other parts for it (mask and tube). I wonder how hard it would be to make them.

 

[HadEnough1974]

Plan b, plan c and plan d. And when a mental health professional asks me, do you have a plan on how you would end your life, I say yes, which plan would you like? Plan a, b , c or d? ;)

 

[Deleted member 14386]

I struggled with this a while, my initial plan was to take xanax, down the SN then snort a large line of heroin (along with the meto and any other anti-emetics). Now I'm thinking to just do the SN, then if I vomit it all up I still have some xanax and heroin, plus if anyone finds me with blue lips it'll look like an OD

 

[HannahB]

I just researched every way so I can be creative, life tends to surprise us and i don't like to be unprepared.

 

[a.h]

I struggled with this a while, my initial plan was to take xanax, down the SN then snort a large line of heroin (along with the meto and any other anti-emetics). Now I'm thinking to just do the SN, then if I vomit it all up I still have some xanax and heroin, plus if anyone finds me with blue lips it'll look like an OD

I struggled with this a while, my initial plan was to take xanax, down the SN then snort a large line of heroin (along with the meto and any other anti-emetics). Now I'm thinking to just do the SN, then if I vomit it all up I still have some xanax and heroin, plus if anyone finds me with blue lips it'll look like an OD

I think that right amount of heroin is better. People who have had od from it say it was short bliss and total black out. They didn't even gain conscious when having heart attack from it and just woke up later in hospital. If they sold it inside my country that would be my no 1. way. We have strictest customs in the world were I live. Many dark net sellers have even banned my country because so much get seized at customs.

Isn't strong opiates used to knock people out for surgeries too?

 

[BPD Barbie]

SN was plan A, plan B was to just throw myself off some great height, maybe beachy head or something like that.

 

[SuicideBoys93]

My things that I ordered for my CTB method of choice arrived today. Right now I'm at peace. I'm struggling, but as chaotic my head is I know my plan is sitting in my garage. I'm not unboxing anything. I'm going to leave it sit in the corner. My wife asked me last night why is that killing myself is my solution? I responded. The years I have been dealing with everything I was resilient in the beginning. I probably ignored the signs of my mental health declining. I told her I feel as if I just want the game to be over. What scares you, worries me. Yes, I'm not afraid of saying if I were to go I do worry about the what ifs, and the permenant question mark that would surround my life. I said it's simple, the thought of the madness stopping appeals to me at this stage of my life.

 

[a.h]

I just researched every way so I can be creative, life tends to surprise us and i don't like to be unprepared.

SN was plan A, plan B was to just throw myself off some great height, maybe beachy head or something like that.

I think that SN would be great plan B. My plan A is fast and painless but with minor risk of being found. Inside own house with sn, opiate etc. there
is not that risk. I fear sn hurts though I am quite sure that with big enough ingestion it won't. Do you have antiemetics for it? Would I need to get one from doctor? I have reflux disease (and meds for it) and throwing up so much that it's not enough to ctb would be painfull for sure.

Nembutal and heroin/f would be best in my opinion and latters would be seen as accidents too.

I know that plan B is most likely unnecessary but after years of pain 1 week delay wouldn't unfortunately kill me. Though I feel so bad to think about waiting.

I feel so bad for everyone with biggest pains 24/7 to endure. You are mentally strongest people in world even if you end up leaving the life of pain behind.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

I think that right amount of heroin is better. People who have had od from it say it was short bliss and total black out. They didn't even gain conscious when having heart attack from it and just woke up later in hospital. If they sold it inside my country that would be my no 1. way. We have strictest customs in the world were I live. Many dark net sellers have even banned my country because so much get seized at customs.

Isn't strong opiates used to knock people out for surgeries too?

Opiates would be used post-surgery for the pain, but it's mainly a mix of benzos and a dissociative (ketamine used to be one) now for surgeries

I think that SN would be great plan B. My plan A is fast and painles mis but with minor risk of being found. Inside own house with an eitc. there is not that risk. I fear sn hurts though I am quite sure that with big enough ingestion it won't. Do you have antiemetics for it? Would I need to get one from doctor? I have reflux disease (and meds for it) and throwing up so much that it's not enough to ctb would be painfull for sure.

Nembutal and heroin/f would be best in my opinion and latters would be seen as accidents too.

Yes Nembutal and fentanyl would surely cause death, pentobarbitol affects many of the same receptors as benzos (xanax etc) do now, but are far more lethal. Similar to fent (in terms of potency), but you could theorectically make an actual "kill pill" (it might be more than 1 pill lol, just saying)

edit: you can also snort fent, it will kick in within 5 mins and you'll know nothing until your 'rescued' (this happened to me, took 5 naloxone syringes apparently), I was actually dead, they did cpr and I was in a coma for 3 days. Nerve damage for 2 years, so the problem is if you are rescued you will have bad physical side-affects

 

[Pallf]

Yah I have a plan B. Decapitation by train. It's not super dignified but it gets the job done. I also have C,D, etc...

 

[Deleted member 14386]

Hi,

I have been here long time. I wanted to be 100% sure and ready. I have everything for fast and peacefull leave. But now after reading so many horror stories of failing and ending locked up I started to think that is plan B needed too. Those of you that are leaving for sure and don't have Nembutal, have you gotten your plan B for other method?

Would it be wise to get the salt etc. in hand if you get caught or if the method is not working as well as it should and take lots of it then?
In my country psych ward prison system is really bad. Like so bad that a friend from school had to jump from its window even it wasn't tall building at all. He was lucky to die since I bet he didn't want to end up there again.

I have bottles of pure He too but not any other parts for it (mask and tube). I wonder how hard it would be to make them.

I've also actually had 2 other attempts where emergency services were involved, but they forgot to check my pockets both times. I had 2x 200mg alprazolam capsules the first and heroin and acetyl-fentanyl the 2nd. Both held me over in my addiction phase while I was waiting the 24 hr wait for the psychiatric team

 

[TAW122]

My plan B relies around using partial or night-night, might be partial since I can't for fucks sake even get myself to pass out! Well I don't want to rant or go off tangent, but I would say that I'm really going for plan A, but if for some reason my plan B is failing then I'd go for plan C, which involves CO poisoning and is a bit trickier since I need to make sure that I'm getting just CO gas and not CO₂ as that triggers the hypercapnic response resulting in my stupid body's SI kicking in hard.

Actually I might just go with partial and suffer more pain (not my intentions but I'm just so bad at even effectively offing myself outside of a surefire method) as a plan B as rope and hanging materials are fairly easy to come by. Plan C, would still, of course, be CO method.

 

[rntmss]

SN was plan A, plan B was to just throw myself off some great height, maybe beachy head or something like that.

This is exactly my plan

 

[Deleted member 14386]

My plan B relies around using partial or night-night, might be partial since I can't for fucks sake even get myself to pass out! Well I don't want to rant or go off tangent, but I would say that I'm really going for plan A, but if for some reason my plan B is failing then I'd go for plan C, which involves CO poisoning and is a bit trickier since I need to make sure that I'm getting just CO gas and not CO₂ as that triggers the hypercapnic response resulting in my stupid body's SI kicking in hard.

Actually I might just go with partial and suffer more pain (not my intentions but I'm just so bad at even effectively offing myself outside of a surefire method) as a plan B as rope and hanging materials are fairly easy to come by. Plan C, would still, of course, be CO method.

I seem to remember reading something about people buying N2O as in a big tank of it, for sport cars etc but they modified it to fill baloons at a festival, the same could be applied with N2O in a tent maybe, I don't know much about it but I do know it exists

 

[rntmss]

I seem to remember reading something about people buying N as in a big tank of it, for sport cars etc but they modified it to fill baloons at a festival, the same could be applied with N in a tent maybe, I don't know much about it but I do know it exists

Nitrogen is not N around these parts of the internet

 

[Cave Johnson]

I've looked into a lot of options honestly. There are a number of 10+ story buildings not far from where I live. Heroine is another I've been considering, I know a few people that are trustworthy that I could probably get it from. Another option that's really not what I would prefer but is an option nonetheless, is to build a relatively small explosive(I have friends that have experience with this sort of thing) and I could basically use it to blow my head off.

I'm currently unemployed and do not have much money, so until I start working again a lot of the options that are quick and peaceful are out of reach.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

Nitrogen is not N around these parts of the internet

Oops, sorry I'm new still getting the acronyms lol, but yeah no2
edit: N2O jesus I'm terrible at writing

 

[Jessamine]

I have an a) rational plan and b) probably stupid spontaneous plan. a) is Beachy head and b) is crashing my car at high speed, no air bag or seatbelt. Actually c) is something with cutting as I'm a prolific self harmer but that is probably really stupid and unreliable.

 

[a.h]

Opiates would be used post-surgery for the pain, but it's mainly a mix of benzos and a dissociative (ketamine used to be one) now for surgeries

Yes Nembutal and fentanyl would surely cause death, pentobarbitol affects many of the same receptors as benzos (xanax etc) do now, but are far more lethal. Similar to fent (in terms of potency), but you could theorectically make an actual "kill pill" (it might be more than 1 pill lol, just saying)

edit: you can also snort fent, it will kick in within 5 mins and you'll know nothing until your 'rescued' (this happened to me, took 5 naloxone syringes apparently), I was actually dead, they did cpr and I was in a coma for 3 days. Nerve damage for 2 years, so the problem is if you are rescued you will have bad physical side-affects

I think that many methods needs to be done with overkill to not end up suffering physically, mentally and maybe economically too. For example CO can give memory problems and maybe headache and lung pain for long, jumping too low can cause really bad damage (one woman here told she had nearly all bones broken and unmanageable pain but survived because she jumped too low) etc.
That's why Peacefull Pill advice is good. It tells how to go for sure and following instructions most don't really have to fear failing. Only if they could be found (for example when doing it in car outside)
I like that the info in here is very similar to the book to prevent suffering even some dumb ideas occur once in a while like mixing 200ml of 2 acids to get really high CO levels (I can tell for sure that one needs to build the device well for it as told in Peacefull Pill book and just mixing liters those in right ratio would not work)

 

[Deleted member 14386]

I have an a) rational plan and b) probably stupid spontaneous plan. a) is Beachy head and b) is crashing my car at high speed, no air bag or seatbelt. Actually c) is something with cutting as I'm a prolific self harmer but that is probably really stupid and unreliable.

jump off beachy head with a long noose? It'd give credit to the name...

I think that many methods needs to be done with overkill to not end up suffering physically, mentally and maybe economically too. For example CO can give memory problems and maybe headache and lung pain for long, jumping too low can cause really bad damage (one woman here told she had nearly all bones broken and unmanageable pain but survived because she jumped too low) etc.
That's why Peacefull Pill advice is good. It tells how to go for sure and following instructions most don't really have to fear failing. Only if they could be found (for example when doing it in car outside)
I like that the info in here is very similar to the book to prevent suffering even some dumb ideas occur once in a while like mixing 200ml of 2 acids to get really high CO levels (I can tell for sure that one needs to build the device well for it as told in Peacefull Pill book and mixing liters those in right ratio would not work)

I've read similar threads, like mixing bleach and other chemicals to cause death, but the person fails to take into account how their body will be recovered/found

 

[Mizzmini45]

It's just makes me sick to see we all have to do this for something that could be ended so easily with what they put animals under. It just makes me mad to see so many people die without dignity and respect

 

[a.h]

I've also actually had 2 other attempts where emergency services were involved, but they forgot to check my pockets both times. I had 2x 200mg alprazolam capsules the first and heroin and acetyl-fentanyl the 2nd. Both held me over in my addiction phase while I was waiting the 24 hr wait for the psychiatric team

Did they monitor you at night in hospital after your attempt except the normal one time walk that night shift nurses do to all patients. They check once from door with lights out that every patient is sleeping in all units where I live and most countries I think.

Did you take any of your drugs then? In my country I don't think they ever search you (at least well) when people go to hospital and not very well in psych ward. So it would be easy to hide enough sn in case you get found and take it in Hospital (I bet they check often in Psych ward)


Here they give just one 400g Panadol one day even after major open surgeries and even if you cry and scream from pain. I have been in many surgeries. First time I told my relative is doctor and got to go home from Hospital (it's legal to leave but I didn't want bad comments to my info) and my friend carried me out and home to get pain meds for really bad pain and next time I took opiates, I had for my much smaller injury, with me in my bag and took them the max dose after surgeries in hospital. Doing cold turkey detox from max dose of opiates person have had daily for other big pain after open heart surgery is not very wise from doctors I think.

But I am curious whether they check you more often at night after they know you tried to off yourself.

 

[SuicideBoys93]

It's just makes me sick to see we all have to do this for something that could be ended so easily with what they put animals under. It just makes me mad to see so many people die without dignity and respect

If they'd offer it, I'd volunteer to drive the bus. You said that, and thought wow, I've never thought about how we humanely have zero problems euthanizing animals, but can allow humans to go peacefully. I'm all for treating animals better. Humanity is fucked, but come on help us out!

 

[Deleted member 14386]

They would check on me every few hours but otherwise I was free to roam around the hospital, flirted with some nurses and the lady security lmao (the benzos still in affect), but yeah I'd have thought they'd check my pockets. I had to use some of the alprazolam (like a tiny dab of the powder) to keep my hands from shaking and sweating, same with the h/f. I'd just go to the toilet and dab or do a bump (not for ctb I figured the worst place to attempt was a hospital lol), they had no idea, and one of the nurses supposed to be checking on me fell asleep at one scheduled check. I saw the psych team and left both times, holding illegal drugs. Mental.

Here they give just one 400g Panadol one day even after major open surgeries and even if you cry and scream from pain. I have been in many surgeries. First time I told my relative is doctor and got to go home from Hospital (it's legal to leave but I didn't want bad comments to my info) and my friend carried me out and home to get pain meds for really bad pain and next time I took opiates, I had for my much smaller injury, with me in my bag and took them the max dose after surgeries in hospital. Doing cold turkey detox from max dose of opiates person have had daily for other big pain after open heart surgery is not very wise from doctors I think.

But I am curious whether they check you more often at night after they know you tried to off yourself.

Oof that sounds bad, I got 30mg codeine scripted for 56 days after an appendix surgery, I was 13, googled it and yup you guessed it, the start of my opiate career! They're okay in small amounts over a small amount of time, but that rarely happens

 

[Indieblue]

My plan b is hanging. I tested yesterday and i was able to press my carotid artery by sitting in my closet. I became dizzy very quickly.

 

[k75]

Technically, my current method is plan B, since my initial idea (insulin OD) isn't a good one. But aside from that, not really. I have no clue what I'll do if SN fails.

 

[AlreadyGone]

Plan B is N. But I'd that does not work out, hanging.

 

[a.h]

jump off beachy head with a long noose? It'd give credit to the name...

I've read similar threads, like mixing bleach and other chemicals to cause death, but the person fails to take into account how their body will be recovered/found

I didn't care that. I mixed 3 l of those right acids and with right ratio and got only low readings of CO. The air was so humid that I was afraid to break my meter so I didn't test for long. But I got 200ppm in same time I get 5000ppm with genera

They would check on me every few hours but otherwise I was free to roam around the hospital, flirted with some nurses and the lady security lmao (the benzos still in affect), but yeah I'd have thought they'd check my pockets. I had to use some of the alprazolam (like a tiny dab of the powder) to keep my hands from shaking and sweating, same with the h/f. I'd just go to the toilet and dab or do a bump (not for ctb I figured the worst place to attempt was a hospital lol), they had no idea, and one of the nurses supposed to be checking on me fell asleep at one scheduled check. I saw the psych team and left both times, holding illegal drugs. Mental.



Oof that sounds bad, I got 30mg codeine scripted for 56 days after an appendix surgery, I was 13, googled it and yup you guessed it, the start of my opiate career! They're okay in small amounts over a small amount of time, but that rarely happens

I think they should give opiates in hospital as long as surgery patients are there. In my country hospitals are commonly called death centers and it's said that it is better die than end up in psych wards. Almost everyone know someone personally who have died from huge mistreatment in hospital. Car accident patients who cry of bad head pain are sent home to die without checking them at all (they get told they are just crazy in head). I was told once I lost about 4.5l of blood because doctor (not surgeon) did surgery and cut my big artery and I had to wait 1,5h after that for the real E.R surgeon. I had decade of pain from nerve damage from it. At least I know it would be 100% painless way to go (big artery damage).
People get 0 money here if they get paralysed, blind or die from huge mistake by doctor. Health care is mostly free but people don't like to work in hospitals for low wage so they take people who don't speak native language or even English so you can understand even 1 sentence Few are good, many are not.
Only private doctors are good.

Psych ward and places for old people are said to be only suffering. Old people have been strapped to bed for years with heavy ties (so they don't wander of fall), rotten teeth, bed wounds and bad pain 24/7. And it's legal torture. All is exposed in news every week and people hate it.

So I really hope someone would start selling Nembutal or h/f around here. People would pay anything for it. They have lots of f in countries next to mine. I really hope that mercy for sick, old and suffering.

 

[Lion84]

My plan a was to shoot myself with my gun. But when they saw how depressed I was they took the gun from me. Then i tried my plan b, that was hanging with a belt. I went dizzy and got scared so I went for plan c. Well plan c was actually my plan a because my mother died also with this method. So i tried also the exit bag method. I dont see many threads about here but it is actually a peacefull method to go. I found my mother and she was laying peacefully on the couch. Well long story short, i tried the exit bag method, not proper and just impulsive with a simple bag and it failed. It failed big time. I was laying in my bed with the bag on my head and the gas flowing into it. It didnt work. It has gotten me braindamage and its horrible. Daily i hear strange noises in my head and i cant get an erection anymore. I used viagra to get an erection but the orgasm feeling is gone. I am such a looser. I tried the exit bag method and it failed and it has gotten me braindamage. It really sucks. Now i am waiting to go for plan D and that is the rope. Every day i see the rope hanging in my hallway screaming my name but somehow I dont use it. I am afraid off it. I am afraid off the pain it will give me. I dont like plan E going for SN I just think it wont work.

 

[a.h]

I didn't care that. I mixed 3 l of those right acids and with right ratio and got only low readings of CO. The air was so humid that I was afraid to break my meter so I didn't test for long. But I got 200ppm in same time I get 5000ppm with genera


I think they should give opiates in hospital as long as surgery patients are there. In my country hospitals are commonly called death centers and it's said that it is better die than end up in psych wards. Almost everyone know someone personally who have died from huge mistreatment in hospital. Car accident patients who cry of bad head pain are sent home to die without checking them at all (they get told they are just crazy in head). I was told once I lost about 4.5l of blood because doctor (not surgeon) did surgery and cut my big artery and I had to wait 1,5h after that for the real E.R surgeon. I had decade of pain from nerve damage from it. At least I know it would be 100% painless way to go (big artery damage).
People get 0 money here if they get paralysed, blind or die from huge mistake by doctor. Health care is mostly free but people don't like to work in hospitals for low wage so they take people who don't speak native language or even English so you can understand even 1 sentence Few are good, many are not.
Only private doctors are good.

Psych ward and places for old people are said to be only suffering. Old people have been strapped to be for years with heavy ties (so they don't wander of fall), rotten teeth, bed wounds and bad pain 24/7. And it's legal torture. All is exposed in news every week and people hate it.

So I really hope someone would start selling Nembutal or h/f around here. People would pay anything for it. They have lots of f in countries next to mine. I really hope that mercy for sick, old and suffering.

Do you know that did they check you at night in hospital after failed ctb?

My plan a was to shoot myself with my gun. But when they saw how depressed I was they took the gun from me. Then i tried my plan b, that was hanging with a belt. I went dizzy and got scared so I went for plan c. Well plan c was actually my plan a because my mother died also with this method. So i tried also the exit bag method. I dont see many threads about here but it is actually a peacefull method to go. I found my mother and she was laying peacefully on the couch. Well long story short, i tried the exit bag method, not proper and just impulsive with a simple bag and it failed. It failed big time. I was laying in my bed with the bag on my head and the gas flowing into it. It didnt work. It has gotten me braindamage and its horrible. Daily i hear strange noises in my head and i cant get an erection anymore. I used viagra to get an erection but the orgasm feeling is gone. I am such a looser. I tried the exit bag method and it failed and it has gotten me braindamage. It really sucks. Now i am waiting to go for plan D and that is the rope. Every day i see the rope hanging in my hallway screaming my name but somehow I dont use it. I am afraid off it. I am afraid off the pain it will give me. I dont like plan E going for SN I just think it wont work.

I feel so sorry for you. What gas you used? What about your mother? Did you have right bag and everything right?
From personal experience I can honestly say that dieing from lack of air in about 15 min was totally peacefull so I know your mother couldn't feel any pain. After accident I actually wanted to die after only 5 min because I felt euphoric, unearthly peace, love and happiness I knew this world can never give and I was sure it would continue after death. Then I had eventually black out and so good nde I don't have words to describe it. It was million times better than the happiest moments in life. After that I wanted to go there (life after earth) so bad every day even I was the happiest person in life before it.

People say that bleeding hurt but I don't think that bleeding from damage to big artery hurted at all after doctor cut my big artery
She said I lost about 4-4.5 l blood and asked if I wanted blood transfer. I denied her giving it because people have gotten HIV in my country from blood transfer.

I think CO, Nembutal and h/f are painless but must be done by the peacefull pill book.

I struggled with this a while, my initial plan was to take xanax, down the SN then snort a large line of heroin (along with the meto and any other anti-emetics). Now I'm thinking to just do the SN, then if I vomit it all up I still have some xanax and heroin, plus if anyone finds me with blue lips it'll look like an OD

I am starting to think I should have plan b also in case of being found and being locked up. So if there is news about autopsy case where deceased had sn in plastic bag/condom in their butt its me with my plan b to have painless exit in Psych prison. ;)