Do you feel tougher than your normal counterparts?

[Esc9434]

Something bad has happened in our lives to bring us to this forum...

Having the courage to take your own life is brave.

Coming back from the point of taking of your own life is also brave.

You have reached rock bottom, but you are managing to pull yourself from it.

You have been through things that would make your normal counterparts crumble.

Sometimes the journey we take to reach a goal is more important than reaching the goal itself.

Life is a marathon, not a sprint blah, blah, blah...

With all that being said, do you feel tougher than your normal counterparts?

This thread was inspired by angie ( @angel-of-the-night ).

 

[ocd is bad]

Maybe. Not really for me though. For example tons of people join the military, go through boot camp and everything, and I'm not tough enough for that. So no I'm not tougher then most people.
I would say that I'm more accostom to long periods of unhappiness, which in a way is toughness I guess, but overall no for me.

 

[Esc9434]

Maybe. Not really for me though. For example tons of people join the military, go through boot camp and everything, and I'm not tough enough for that. So no I'm not tougher then most people.
I would say that I'm more accostom to long periods of unhappiness, which in a way is toughness I guess, but overall no for me.

Well, I think going through boot camp is a mixture of both physical and mental toughness. I say more physical.

I think mental toughness is more important than physical.

I'll give you another analogy... Let's look at some of the biggest winners in sports history like Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Tom Brady...

What separates them from their competition is the ability of being able to think and concentrate during crunch time...

You don't develop that ability unless you push yourself or being pushed constantly, which I assume most of us are...

 

[ocd is bad]

Well, I think going through boot camp is a mixture of both physical and mental toughness. I say more physical.

I think mental toughness is more important than physical.

I'll give you another analogy... Let's look at some of the biggest sports athletes like Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Tom Brady...

What separates them from their competition is the ability of being able to think and concentrate during crunch time...

You don't develop that ability unless you push yourself or being pushed constantly, which I assume most of us are...

I agree, and while I have a ton of respect for both mentally and physically tough people but I think being mentally tough will get you further in the long run. I think this quarantine has showed that a lot of people don't have the mental toughness to be alone for long periods of time, which I guess made me believe I'm a little tougher.
As far as the sports analogy, idk if it's really how they concentrate during crunch time that makes them elite. Like Mike Trout is probably the best current mlb player, but his team never makes the postseason, so there's not really a crunch time for him. I think it's more based on a combination of natural talent and work ethic, and yeah I think work ethic has a lot to do with mental and physical toughness and drive.

 

[Grav]

I think going through boot camp is a mixture of both physical and mental toughness. I say more physical.

I feel it's more mental than physical, I went through it. The physical is hard if you're out of shape but it's the mind games that twist people around; do this, now do the opposite; hurry, hurry, wait; the never good-enough answer game. Having gone through my childhood I wasn't blown away by the mental games, but I wasn't in good shape so that was more difficult. In my opinion it's the mental toughness that makes the warrior. If you look at most of the high-speed guys they aren't super muscle heads but look pretty regular, their mind and how they react make the difference.I do think going through the low times and being on the edge gives a certain resiliency that makes "rough times" manageable, in our own special way. The people I hear of having the most problems with the cov are those who are usually "up".

 

[Fedrea]

Something bad has happened in our lives to bring us to this forum...

Having the courage to take your own life is brave.

Coming back from the point of taking of your own life is also brave.

You have reached rock bottom, but you are managing to pull yourself from it.

You have been through things that would make your normal counterparts crumble.

Sometimes the journey we take to reach a goal is more important than reaching the goal itself.

Life is a marathon, not a sprint blah, blah, blah...

With all that being said, do you feel tougher than your normal counterparts?

This thread was inspired by angie ( @angel-of-the-night ).

No. I feel very weak. I feel that mental illness has caused weakness, turned strength into weakness

 

[mathieu]

No, normal people are so much more resilient than me. I've wasted my life hiding at home. Not doing anything.

 

[DyingAlf]

No, I feel like a weak, broken, waste of space especially because I also keep failing to ctb.

 

[IsThisTheEnd?]

some "normal" people showed cracks in lockdown.

 

[WinterFaust]

I feel weaker than both the average person and others struggling with mental illness. My former friend group had people who had traumatic childhoods and depression and they were always able to be more or less successful. I haven't heard from them in a year but I'm sure they're all doing well. Meanwhile, I've been in this depressive episode and struggling to do basic functions and I hardly go outside. If I were tough, I'd be able to work through my depression and try to find new people or something. All I've done is fallen apart.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Definitely no. I hate that I'm not normal and don't react to things the way I'm "supposed to". I don't consider myself intellectually superior to normals, I think I'm definitely worse and weaker because I fall apart for some of the stupidest reasons and I've lost so much of my capacity to empathize with other humans.

I'm probably even weaker than most members of this site too. I can't stand anything either that seems too edgy to me like tattoos and piercings. I don't hate anyone for having them but the very idea of them makes me so uncomfortable because I'm too goddamn cowardly to even sit through bad horror movies without crying and getting bad nightmares. I hate myself and want to CTB but I'm too scared to do things like cut myself.

 

[Esc9434]

Damn... I think making this thread was a mistake.

I was trying to give you recovery guys hope and motivation.

 

[BPD Barbie]

I feel more resilient than most normal people. I know I can handle huge amounts of stress, pressure etc. But everyone has a breaking point eventually.

 

[VIBRITANNIA]

not really. if anything, i feel like all of the "tragic" events that have led me to be suicidal/led me to joining this site have made me weaker. i get pissed off at the slightest things, i can't stop overthinking, i get upset easily... the list goes on and on.

 

[DyingAlf]

Damn... I think making this thread was a mistake.

I was trying to give you recovery guys hope and motivation.

Thank you for trying!

 

[Caspers]

I feel weak, oh so very weak and fragile. But a part of me tells me I'm a strong warrior. It's tiring listening to both sides.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I've been trying to avoid answering for days
I feel stronger, yes, because I've faced things that would send others screaming for the hills.
I honestly don't know which takes more courage when you are fucked and alone and abandoned: to try to die or to try to continue living.
I guess I've had many of the beneficial delusions stripped away from me, something that many people never have happen. I don't even know how I feel about that. I suppose it's a good thing if I can find the wisdom to do something with it, but a bad thing if I can't; if I simply lack the delusions that I need to survive but have no deeper truth to replace them with.

But I feel weaker too, because at the time I did run for the hills. I didn't exactly cover myself in glory. Life kicked the shit out of me then kneed me in the bollox and shat on my head. I was a crying, insane, freaked out mess and I'm not proud of any of that.
I feel more humility in some ways, because reality has put me in my place, but in others I actually feel more arrogant, because I see how delusional the whole of the consensus of society is and why the fuck can't they see it themselves?
It's taught me things about myself. I try to listen now and try to stop fighting the way things are; to accept and align myself with the natural way of things. It's not easy and I often fail, but I know it is the right way for me to try and live.
I have no faith, it's not a feeling I know how to feel, but I can sometimes find myself almost feeling something like faith. Almost.
Sorry, a conflicting and characteristically nebulous answer from me, I know.

 

[AllReturnsToNothing]

I dunno. In some respects I've been through shit that I don't think most people would be able to handle. In fact I was only just barely about to handle it. But I really don't believe in the phrase "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" because if anything these mental scars made me weaker. I mean you hack at a tree with an axe long enough and it's not gonna be a very strong tree anymore. It'll just be weak and ripe for an infection to settle in the scar left and spread through the rest of the tree, infecting it and further weakening it until it begins to buckle under it's own weight. And only time will tell when that dying tree will finally come crashing down to earth. And nobody even hears it beginning to creak, beginning to fall.

 

[LenkaX]

I feel like shit, definitely not tough.

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

Absolutely not, I am like a little sick animal that needs to be in a safe place at all times

 

[DamnYourEyes]

I know for a fact that I'm stronger than most. However it is not a rock-bottom thing that brought me here. It's a very certain realization that after15 years of trying? Society has no place for me.

I would be 55 next month, I had a good career, marriage, masters degree, and all the bullshit. My childhood was the standard American nightmare of dad gone (US Army) and mom in a bottle/gone at her boyfriends, Usually both.

Now, please understand? (And I realize it's more than ironic to ask an Internet full of strangers to empathize) I enjoyed life.

I wouldn't mind living.

But if I can't have a *place* to live? Please remember while you read that I've been doing the domicile challenge dance for a decade and a half. That's 15 years and it's far too long. I no longer have that kind of strength and resiliency and I never fit in to that world since I don't drink or smoke and I'm not violent.

If I have to go on day after day, not being able to take a nap or even lie down, not be able to shower/bathe, or eat, or to have people look down on me because I can't keep a roof over my head because I just can't fucking afford it…

Then fuck all these people and their world.

No, it is not right. No, it is not fair. Yes, it is reality. Anyone who tells you that you have a right to anything beyond your next breath and death is lying to you. I wish it were different.

I'm still trying, but I don't have a lot of hope anymore. And I'm very aware of that Hope was the last thing out of Pandora's box. Plenty of people could help, but we all know those people won't, they are to caught up in their own drama. They don't really care.

In the final analysis, I may be the master of my own soul, However thinking that society cares, or than anyone but yourself will take care of you? That's a joke. And since I never had children I can't access most of the social programs for women. Don't think I gave up easily - I didn't. In order to get housing in this country do you need a mailing address, And in order to have a mailing address in a house or an apartment. That's it in a nutshell.

did you know the government is making it impossible to fly in this country or any other soon (COVID-19 extended the deadline by one year, but it's very real, check the website.) if you don't have a real ID which means someway of proving you're not homeless.

OK that was a Very long answer. ‍

 

[netrezven]

From all the people around me, those who solve problems are the ones i pay. Everybody else is kind of trying to ruin any kind of success they think i have, or they just try to think and they think too small for me. So if anybody from them is feeling sad, because i don't give a f***c, a really don't give a f***c.