Discussion Do we just want the pain to stop or to be HAPPY?

[Dawn0071111]

I didn't realize there was a differnce till just now. I just don't get that happiness requires a substantial amount of work and effort. Its so weird. I mean.... I guess its not the worst concept. Its just seems strange that human beings naturally lean towards the negative and have to strain towards feeling happy. Kinda like the whole weeds will grow on thier own, but you have to tend to the plants..... I guess. I just find it to be so awful. Who designed this shitty game? At least give us a moderatly content baseline to start from..... I really just don't get the design of this life, I mean, I don't mind working for things.... but damn..just to not feel like hell all the time?

Am I the only one who finds this weird? I get working for money, working to lose weight, working to create a product or piece of art. But working to be happy?

 

[irregularheartbeat]

I just don't believe I was designed for happiness no matter how hard I try. It's something I've never truly felt, my most positive emotion is mania. I don't believe it's ever something I'll actually feel.
You're right, its shitty design.
I don't know if anyones meant to be happy, to me it just seems like a ploy set by rulers and marketing teams, to extort more out of us and sell us fancily packaged items.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

After 40 years of hell, happiness is the only acceptable outcome for me.

 

[coma-baby]

It is an absolutely shitty design.

Though, I would chose to stop the pain as opposed to being happy. If it was as simple as pushing a button, I'd stop the pain. Happiness can come next after that. Or not at all. I'd much rather be simply okay than to be happy but have this pain still tainting the edges of everything.

 

[Pistolero114]

In my perspective; both.

 

[HGL91]

I mean, from an evolutionary standpoint, our brain holds onto negative experiences better than positive experiences to have a better chance at survival. Remembering the bad experience that you survived from, means if you experience it again, you'll know how to get away.

Yeah, life is depressing. I always blame my Evolutionary Psychology class for my depression because when you take away fancy fashion, housing, restaurants, calendars, holidays, spas, hospitals, banks and all these other modern things, we're just intelligent mammals surviving day to day.

It is an absolutely shitty design.

Though, I would chose to stop the pain as opposed to being happy. If it was as simple as pushing a button, I'd stop the pain. Happiness can come next after that. Or not at all. I'd much rather be simply okay than to be happy but have this pain still tainting the edges of everything.

I just imagined pushing a big, red button and my pain going away...it was 1 beautiful second of euphoria.

 

[Slate128]

I want to be happy. I also want to see two meteors collide in the sky during a solar eclipse in the next ten minutes. Neither are gonna happen.

 

[Nanimoaru]

Both of them

 

[StillWaiting]

I supposed pain to stop first and then to be happy.
I don't want pain to continue to hurt me while I enjoy small little things in life.

 

[oopswronglife]

Pour moi...both.

 

[Mbound]

I don't think true happiness exists on this planet, at least not within comprehension of my own brain. It's all tainted for me by the inevitability of death and loss. Even looking at the people/animals I love now makes me incredibly sad because even if I didn't end up ctbing, I would still have to cope with their eventual demise and whatever suffering they'd encounter before. I need out. I'm way too far gone.

 

[woxihuanni]

Ah, tough one. I've always been able to feel little joys in the midst of immense, crushing pain. But in the end, the joys do not make up for the crushing weight of it.

But, to just stop pain, and not be happy either... Nope. Been miserable enough, bare survival is not a good enough deal anymore.