Discussion Do any of us deserve to have joy in our lives?

[Ernest1964]

I just turned 59 last month. I don't want to live while I slowly fall apart. So the BIG question I am struggling with right now is, do I set a timeline of 60 years then CTB or 65 then CTB? I'm diabetic (T2), other than that I am relatively healthy. My eye site is very slowly failing me, I don't have high blood pressure or any major heart problems. I'm just tired of existing. I have been on antidepressants for 20+ years. If not for the medication, I might have CTBed years ago. I guess I just can't seem to find any joy in life. Am I being unrealistic thinking that maybe I should have some joy in my life?

 

[AboutTom]

Everyone deserves joy. I don't think you're unrealistic at all. I try to find happiness in the little things like a warm cup of tea or my favorite pair of socks. But ik that for some people absolutely nothing brings them happiness. It's not your fault if your brain chemistry isn't working but there still are things you could try before ctb. Even if you set a date and end up doing it, trying everything else before it does no harm.

 

[Outsidelessness]

Everyone deserves joy. I don't think you're unrealistic at all. I try to find happiness in the little things like a warm cup of tea or my favorite pair of socks. But ik that for some people absolutely nothing brings them happiness. It's not your fault if your brain chemistry isn't working but there still are things you could try before ctb. Even if you set a date and end up doing it, trying everything else before it does no harm.

Yeah, I think all human beings should indiscriminately be able to experience joy.

 

[tiger b]

I can relate to a lot of what you're saying.

'should' is a funny, and limiting, word. You're the ultimate judge of what joy you could choose in your life, and noone else, allowing for considerable constraints. Easy said.

So hangry right now...damn you diabetes!!!

 

[rosenwasser]

Everyone deserves joy. I've worked with some of the worst people in the last few years - including murderers - so I have given some thought to statements like this.
I'm much younger than you and cannot imagine how you feel looking back at life and into the future. Whatever the next years may bring and whatever choice you make about the way your life goes, I hope you experience some happiness, comfort and peace on your way. You deserve it.

 

[FuneralCry]

I don't believe that existence is a positive thing at all, it's just an endless cycle of suffering that is so harmful, to have the ability to exist is so burdensome. But if people want to stay here then that's their decision, I understand why you'd feel so tired of it all, best wishes.

 

[アホペンギン]

Everyone deserves to have joy, it isn't irrational or unrealistic at all to be wishing to achieve such a state of happiness. It is what everyone wants, a happy life without any worries in the world. Ignorance is bliss, after all.

But, because of the cruelty and unfairness in this world, life is such a gamble and I'm sure many people here have lost the gamble either in genetics, causing them to inherit some sort of disease or just some uncalled for negative thing in life that randomly comes to us, it is against our will and we have no control over it.

Everyone deserves to find their happiness, you aren't being irrational at all.

 

[Spiritual survivor]

Of course we do. But is not always immediately available or achievable. Sometimes it requires mental perspective change, sometimes u have to take action, maybe it's your environment that sucks. I listen to my internal guide to let me know what to do.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

We all deserve joy in our lives but often there are circumstances that make our lives hardship for many different reasons. Some of them are subjective feelings.

 

[IBM0000]

Desreve? No. Some people, like me, don't desreve to experience joy, even if we constantly do. For context, I sexually abused four of my five youngest siblings. Do I desreve joy? I don't desreve joy, don't you think? Especially not compared to the ones who I have stolen the joy of life from.

 

[BLEH:3]

no one ''deserves'' anything

 

[sserafim]

I just turned 59 last month. I don't want to live while I slowly fall apart. So the BIG question I am struggling with right now is, do I set a timeline of 60 years then CTB or 65 then CTB? I'm diabetic (T2), other than that I am relatively healthy. My eye site is very slowly failing me, I don't have high blood pressure or any major heart problems. I'm just tired of existing. I have been on antidepressants for 20+ years. If not for the medication, I might have CTBed years ago. I guess I just can't seem to find any joy in life. Am I being unrealistic thinking that maybe I should have some joy in my life?

I think that everyone deserves to have joy in their lives. Unfortunately, not everyone does because life is a cruel and unfair game.

 

[Spiritual survivor]

Desreve? No. Some people, like me, don't desreve to experience joy, even if we constantly do. For context, I sexually abused four of my five youngest siblings. Do I desreve joy? I don't desreve joy, don't you think? Especially not compared to the ones who I have stolen the joy of life from.

God forgives u, if u ask for it. Your siblings might not be able to. U still deserve joy. U obviously have become aware of your sin and feel remorse. Maybe u didn't think u were doing harm at the time or didn't consider it but u are able to see it now. U don't have to be that person today.

 

[IBM0000]

God forgives u, if u ask for it. Your siblings might not be able to. U still deserve joy. U obviously have become aware of your sin and feel remorse. Maybe u didn't think u were doing harm at the time or didn't consider it but u are able to see it now. U don't have to be that person today.

Thing is, they don't know. And only have vague memories of it. Of why they're worse today than other "normal" kids. They were so young, I even knew what I did was wrong and yet I had the gall to do it. I always wished I didn't exist since I became sentient. All the things I did dawned on me more since I've become more intelligent. And the thing is, those aren't even my breaking point. I reached that when I had failed high school twice in 2021 or 2022, not sure. So, the real reason is because I didn't finish high school. Pretty undesreving of joy, if you ask me. Any hope of maybe paying a sort of reparation by being a dependable sibling to whom they could use was crushed since I failed high school twice and only had one 2 month part-time job since. Sorry for the vent, I needed it. Thanks.