Method Diving Mask+ Nitrogen Gas

[Violet]

like this:
https://www.researchgate.net/public...alation_by_use_of_Scuba_Full-Face_Diving_Mask

Someone who has chosen and is preparing this method? I am interested in receiving information on the following issues:
how did you get nitrogen in europe?
and the rest of the material, could you tell the exact tools and materials
Very thankful

 

[Lady black]

I only have a manual in german, maybe someone could translate it in english? (I´m not so good in translating)

 

[Violet]

thanks @Lady black

 

[JustLosingMyself]

Well...
You'll need to do some plumbing. Afaik the threading for scuba regs are specific to scuba tank post valves.
Getting a place to fill a scuba tank with nitrogen is bound to raise some eyebrows

 

[Psilo]

Sounds expensive

 

[JustLosingMyself]

Hmmm... @Lady black
Thank you
Looks like all I need is a new DIN first stage and the face mask both easily obtainable on eBay
@Psilo it is... a few hundred UK£ for the regulators. Then again any used ones on eBay would do. They only need to work for 20 mins at pressures they can easily handle

 

[Sixfeetunder]

Use a scuba diving mask and not any other kind of mask. I know someone who tried the exit bag with a mask and failed.

 

[Nitromask]

like this:
https://www.researchgate.net/public...alation_by_use_of_Scuba_Full-Face_Diving_Mask

Someone who has chosen and is preparing this method? I am interested in receiving information on the following issues:
how did you get nitrogen in europe?
and the rest of the material, could you tell the exact tools and materials
Very thankful

I'm planning something similar, but using a Supplied Air Respirator mask, as opposed to a scuba mask. Just figuring out all the details

 

[crova]

Everyone interested in scuba diving and inert gas please check this thread and posts from @onewayroad
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-make-a-death-mask-for-inert-gas-argon-nitrogen.7366/

He has been researching this method across two other threads, but I cannot find now.

 

[Welcumtotherealworld]

Exit bags have always given me bad wibes, I always feel like I would unconsciously rip them off. Full suspension honestly seems like the best, most easily accessible method available. And most importantly of all its reliable as long as you have a good knot, good anchor point, good rope and a place where no one will find you.

Always remember that the consequence of failing is living as a vegetable in pain for decades on end. Exit bags aren't worth that risk in my opinion.

 

[Nitromask]

Everyone interested in scuba diving and inert gas please check this thread and posts from @onewayroad
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-make-a-death-mask-for-inert-gas-argon-nitrogen.7366/

He has been researching this method across two other threads, but I cannot find now.

I think a mask with a respirator would work better as this mask would just fill up and break the seal as it's just a sealed snorkel mask

 

[Violet]

Everyone interested in scuba diving and inert gas please check this thread and posts from @onewayroad
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-make-a-death-mask-for-inert-gas-argon-nitrogen.7366/

He has been researching this method across two other threads, but I cannot find now.

i didn´t see this, thank u very much

 

[crova]

You're welcome.
Searching engine is temperamental here; I could accidentally find information I'd been looking for before, but not when I used specific key words.

 

[Violet]

You're welcome.
Searching engine is temperamental here; I could accidentally find information I'd been looking for before, but not when I used specific key words.

good to know

 

[crova]

Check posts of @TiredHorse too [mainly from December]
He talked extensively about inert gases, once about using scuba diving mask and he made some valid points [unfortunately against using it]
He is the only person I remember who actually tested it by putting the bag on and turn the gas...

But first thing to everyone new to this method: please read material about inert gas hypoxia from two books available from our local repository:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/list-of-resources.3/
Five Last Acts (800+ pages - 2015):
Peaceful Pill eHandboox (Oct-2018):
just click the links and download the content.

Both really well put all the science [incl. human physiology] and technical aspects - its written by people who have first hand
experience from helping others CBT.

 

[crova]

I think a mask with a respirator would work better as this mask would just fill up and break the seal as it's just a sealed snorkel mask

check user @TiredHorse in this thread
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/helium-exit-bag.7712/
Masks are a bit dicey, not just due to how well they are (or are not) secured to your face,
but because you might get air intrusion. If air intrudes on someone taking O2 for sleep apnea,
it's no big deal. If air intrudes on one of us, trying to ctb with an inert gas, it becomes much more problematic.

Scuba/snorkel masks are intended to be worn in an environment where the water is pressing the mask against your face.
The air being delivered through the regulator is on demand, at low pressure, so unlikely to dislodge the mask against
the pressure of the water. Cinch the mask tight enough to your face and you can probably get away with using one to ctb.
My big concern about using such masks with inert gas ctb is that it might be very difficult to flush the air out of
the system with the inert gas, which would lead to a longer time before unconsciousness and a greater risk of triggering
the hypercapnic alarm.

 

[Jen Erik]

Always remember that the consequence of failing is living as a vegetable in pain for decades on end. Exit bags aren't worth that risk in my opinion.

Do you know of any failed attempts with an exit bag where the person ended up in vegetative state?

 

[crova]

Do you know of any failed attempts with an exit bag where the person ended up in vegetative state?

No,I haven't found any report of failing nitrogen/argon attempt and ending in vegetative state [with brain damage] so far.
But dont get it as there none. I'm sure there were cases after helium attempts.

 

[Nitromask]

check user @TiredHorse in this thread
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/helium-exit-bag.7712/
Masks are a bit dicey, not just due to how well they are (or are not) secured to your face,
but because you might get air intrusion. If air intrudes on someone taking O2 for sleep apnea,
it's no big deal. If air intrudes on one of us, trying to ctb with an inert gas, it becomes much more problematic.

Scuba/snorkel masks are intended to be worn in an environment where the water is pressing the mask against your face.
The air being delivered through the regulator is on demand, at low pressure, so unlikely to dislodge the mask against
the pressure of the water. Cinch the mask tight enough to your face and you can probably get away with using one to ctb.
My big concern about using such masks with inert gas ctb is that it might be very difficult to flush the air out of
the system with the inert gas, which would lead to a longer time before unconsciousness and a greater risk of triggering
the hypercapnic alarm.

My intent is to use a Supplied Air Respirator mask, not a scuba mask. These masks are designed to be used, not it water, but in contaminated environments, so naturally the seal is designed to be great without the outside pressure of water (the one I'm looking at has a double seal).
I feel like with Nitrogen entering the mask at 15 l/pm any oxygen or CO2 would be flushed out (via the exhalation valve) within a couple of breaths...I may be wrong

Edited to add pic of what I plan to use

 

[letmeseethedeath]

that guy who died with it didn't puke right? the only thing that scares me is vomiting. how can i avoid this?

 

[Jen Erik]

that guy who died with it didn't puke right? the only thing that scares me is vomiting. how can i avoid this?

This method does not normally induce vomiting. Does something lead you to believe that you will throw up?

 

[Sickman75]

Exit bags have always given me bad wibes, I always feel like I would unconsciously rip them off. Full suspension honestly seems like the best, most easily accessible method available. And most importantly of all its reliable as long as you have a good knot, good anchor point, good rope and a place where no one will find you.

Always remember that the consequence of failing is living as a vegetable in pain for decades on end. Exit bags aren't worth that risk in my opinion.

Are you sure it's the best most easily accessible?

 

[letmeseethedeath]

This method does not normally induce vomiting. Does something lead you to believe that you will throw up?

i red about people who vomiting or something like this and it scares me

 

[Sickman75]

i red about people who vomiting or something like this and it scares me

How do you vomit with that on? That would be really hard to do wouldn't be?

 

[letmeseethedeath]

How do you vomit with that on? That would be really hard to do wouldn't be?

ok thank you all for the explanation, at least i know it's accessible to me

 

[Nitromask]

i red about people who vomiting or something like this and it scares me

If anything, you'd be gasping for air, but that's only if there's too much CO2 built up in the bag (or mask, depending on the method). You won't puke or gasp for air on pure nitrogen

 

[onewayroad]

Hi all, it's basically been covered by everyone here already but yeah if you're going with a mask you want one that is designed to seal to keep air or water out of the mask. The cheap one I bought on ebay seems to seal quite well, if I block the gas inlet and try to breathe in very little air can come in. But medical masks and things like that are not designed to keep air out so shouldn't be used.

 

[pane]

My intent is to use a Supplied Air Respirator mask, not a scuba mask. These masks are designed to be used, not it water, but in contaminated environments, so naturally the seal is designed to be great without the outside pressure of water (the one I'm looking at has a double seal).
I feel like with Nitrogen entering the mask at 15 l/pm any oxygen or CO2 would be flushed out (via the exhalation valve) within a couple of breaths...I may be wrong

Edited to add pic of what I plan to use

Hello Nitromask,

I'd like to please ask if you're still working on this supplied air respirator mask idea? Have you made any progress with it since February, especially with determining if "any oxygen or CO2 would be flushed out (via the exhalation valve) within a couple of breaths"?

Also would you know if a half-face version of the mask you included in your post is available? The somewhat odd reason I ask is that I'm very nearsighted and normally wear contact lenses.

If I were to ever use this method with the full mask I'd have to wear my contacts and then I guess ask in my suicide note that someone remove my lenses afterward so they don't dry out and stick to my eyeballs...a small indignity I'd rather not put myself or anyone else through. If wearing glasses with the full mask I'd be concerned that the "stems" of the eyeglass frames would break the double facial seal and let air in.

However if a half-face version of this mask were available then of course I could wear glasses.

 

[Monster]

If I were to ever use this method with the full mask I'd have to wear my contacts and then I guess ask in my suicide note that someone remove my lenses afterward so they don't dry out and stick to my eyeballs...a small indignity I'd rather not put myself or anyone else through.

Sorry but what's the big deal there? You're dead. Even if you have an open casket funeral your eyes aren't going to be open. Contacts left in after death aren't going to rot through your eyelids. If an autopsy is performed they might find them and remove them. If you're cremated it doesn't matter. If a funeral home/whatever uses those spiked contact lenses they'll probably notice. If they just remove the eyeballs it doesn't matter. Weird shit happens to your body after you die, your eyes drying out is the smallest detail compared to everything else.
Plus, speaking as someone who hasn't removed their daily contacts for several months, your eyes are hardly going to dry out, if they do at all.

 

[Nitromask]

Hello Nitromask,

I'd like to please ask if you're still working on this supplied air respirator mask idea? Have you made any progress with it since February, especially with determining if "any oxygen or CO2 would be flushed out (via the exhalation valve) within a couple of breaths"?

Also would you know if a half-face version of the mask you included in your post is available? The somewhat odd reason I ask is that I'm very nearsighted and normally wear contact lenses.

If I were to ever use this method with the full mask I'd have to wear my contacts and then I guess ask in my suicide note that someone remove my lenses afterward so they don't dry out and stick to my eyeballs...a small indignity I'd rather not put myself or anyone else through. If wearing glasses with the full mask I'd be concerned that the "stems" of the eyeglass frames would break the double facial seal and let air in.

However if a half-face version of this mask were available then of course I could wear glasses.

Hey - sorry I'm only just seeing this as have been away from the site for a while. I haven't made any progress on this as I am now leaning towards Nembutal