Did our soul choose to come here?

[divinemistress36]

I know nobody knows but I saw this on Quora today thought it was an interesting point of view

 

[sserafim]

We were probably tricked and forced into coming here by the archons (agents of the Demiurge)

 

[divinemistress36]

We were probably tricked and forced into coming here by the archons (agents of the Demiurge)

 

[sserafim]

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Caught in 4K

 

[Mirrory Me]

In a way, the soul has predetermined this life, so these negative events hide some "teachings". For example, I struggled to be isolated and lonely, so I had to work on that.

 

[Shiva_Story]

our bodies are branches/shards emergent from Soul that resides in the postmaterial world beyond time and space..the higher the world, the more unity.. our body-egos (embryo soul) is just a tip of the iceberg - existing in shattered state separated from the collective Soul and engaged in the world of illusions chasing fulfilment of cravings & desires in loops.. in this separation we basically dont exist.

 

[Pluto]

There's an overwhelming consensus about choosing to come here in near death studies. Researcher Kevin Williams has a page dedicated to the topic.

 

[divinemistress36]

There's an overwhelming consensus about choosing to come here in near death studies. Researcher Kevin Williams has a page dedicated to the topic.

Maybe our souls wanted a challenge?

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Well in the Pixar movie Soul, the law seems to be that it is physically impossible for any soul to actually be born unless it finds some reason to want to be born. Unfortunately, there's no guarantee that you have to know what that thing is and there's also no guarantee you'll even get to experience it in your life. You could decide to want to be born because you enjoy owning a VHS rental store. Oops. There's also an unfortunate amount of people who end up deciding that the things they decide are worth being born for can hurt other people. In the short film 22 vs. the World, one soul instantly becomes born because it finds out it enjoys lying. They joke about them being born as a politician but that's genuinely saddening to think about that there are some people who only became born to cause misery to others.

 

[divinemistress36]

Well in the Pixar movie Soul, the law seems to be that it is physically impossible for any soul to actually be born unless it finds some reason to want to be born. Unfortunately, there's no guarantee that you have to know what that thing is and there's also no guarantee you'll even get to experience it in your life. You could decide to want to be born because you enjoy owning a VHS rental store. Oops. There's also an unfortunate amount of people who end up deciding that the things they decide are worth being born for can hurt other people. In the short film 22 vs. the World, one soul instantly becomes born because it finds out it enjoys lying. They joke about them being born as a politician but that's genuinely saddening to think about that there are some people who only became born to cause misery to others.

This is fascinating thank you

 

[Forever Sleep]

Hmm, but to what end? What is the soul working towards becoming and why? I know no one has the answers for these things either but it puzzles me. We learn and develop for a reason- surely? Even if we're all part of a greater consciousness, trying to learn everything it can- why would it need to? The only thing my ape brain can come up with is- we're training to be Gods ourselves. Why else would we need to know and experience all this shit?!!

 

[Pluto]

Maybe our souls wanted a challenge?

The question of why opens a bit of a Pandora's box.

The most useful answer I can offer is that each so-called individual has a unique path and purpose. Some come here knowing that they'll die in infancy to serve the parents' journeys. Some lifetimes seem quite cushy. Some horrid.

It starts to make sense when a so-called soul ends up experiencing all of it; all roles, from poverty and royalty, male and female, the victim and the villain. Over many lifetimes, there is an evolution from the primitive to the profound.

We all end up advanced, transcendental beings like Jesus, etc., and in doing so we are only returning to our true nature all along. But this system enables us to experience our true nature in a meaningful way. Perhaps it is a game to play because an eternity in heaven gets boring. But equally important, it isn't supposed to be a process of misery.

But anyway, to reiterate, the notion of choosing to come here is an insight that is endlessly communicated by NDE survivors.

Spoiler: Like, a lot

This is from just one NDE channel. Hopefully makes the point.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

I don't see why would any soul choose to be for example a child dying of starvation just to '"level" up. I think that we were tricked or pressured to come here (if reincarnation is true).

 

[Hollowman]

No

 

[avoid]

This clip from the movie Mr. Nobody is quite interesting. It has little to do with karma and reincarnation but ties in with knowing how your life will turn out. Or perhaps we'll go to this same realm upon our death for the cycle to continue.
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I can remember a long time ago, long before my birth. I was waiting with those not yet born. When we're not born yet, we know everything—everything that will happen. When it's your turn, the Angels of Oblivion place the finger on your mouth. It leaves a mark on the upper lip. It means you've forgotten everything. But the Angels missed me. Then, you have to find a daddy and a mommy. It's not easy to choose.