Death

[sochokeonthis]

Death. It's the obvious fix to an empty, meaningless life, but here's the thing.

Not existed freaks me the fuck out.

And it's not dying (entirely), it's the after. I just can't wrap my head around the idea of not existing anymore. After I die I won't be able to think. My consciousness will be gone and it's never coming back. I'll just be done. I won't be me, I won't be anyone. I won't exist now and I'll never exist again. And the world will just go on without me.

It's an overwhelming concept.

I'm sure the majority of you can't relate to my death anxiety but it's whatever I guess.

 

[MAIO]

Death. It's the obvious fix to an empty, meaningless life, but here's the thing.

Not existed freaks me the fuck out.

And it's not dying (entirely), it's the after. I just can't wrap my head around the idea of not existing anymore. After I die I won't be able to think. My consciousness will be gone and it's never coming back. I'll just be done. I won't be me, I won't be anyone. I won't exist now and I'll never exist again. And the world will just go on without me.

It's an overwhelming concept.

I'm sure the majority of you can't relate to my death anxiety but it's whatever I guess.

When you consider things like at the very least the vast majority of molecules in your body and brain are replaced many times throughout life span, (meaning most of you is replaced with a copy of you many times or at the very least most of you has died many times) Consciousness is fundamentally different that we perceive to an absurd degree etc. your cousouness has already lost died many times. You are not you in the way you perceive it.

 

[Kellogg's]

Death. It's the obvious fix to an empty, meaningless life, but here's the thing.

Not existed freaks me the fuck out.

And it's not dying (entirely), it's the after. I just can't wrap my head around the idea of not existing anymore. After I die I won't be able to think. My consciousness will be gone and it's never coming back. I'll just be done. I won't be me, I won't be anyone. I won't exist now and I'll never exist again. And the world will just go on without me.

It's an overwhelming concept.

I'm sure the majority of you can't relate to my death anxiety but it's whatever I guess.

Look up near death experiences? Late Pam Reynolds had her NDE while literally brain dead and the ER personnel verified her experience. Guess it should go without saying that no one knows at this point what happens after death. On the other hand it's kind of unlikely that we are only aware now and not ever again, just too unlikely and even kind of, although no offense meant, dumb to think that. Don't you dream? Trip? Your awareness goes through all kinds of altered states, even seeing entirely different worlds around it at times. Where are you when that happens?

 

[millefeui]

Non existence doesn't scare me at all. It is the idea that something other than non existence might be awaiting for me that scares the living hell out of me.

 

[sochokeonthis]

Look up near death experiences? Late Pam Reynolds had her NDE while literally brain dead and the ER personnel verified her experience. Guess it should go without saying that no one knows at this point what happens after death. On the other hand it's kind of unlikely that we are only aware now and not ever again, just too unlikely and even kind of, although no offense meant, dumb to think that. Don't you dream? Trip? Your awareness goes through all kinds of altered states, even seeing entirely different worlds around it at times. Where are you when that happens?

....brain dead and dreaming is a bit different than being literally fucking dead. It doesn't matter where your brain goes when you dream because you're still alive. Your brain is still functioning for you. And with brain death the rest of your body is still functioning. I'm talking about when your body is fading to bones in a casket 6 feet under. And although we don't know much about what happens after death, it's pretty dumb to think that after your body is dead and decomposing, that you'll ever experience awareness again. It's unlikely you'll ever be aware again without a fucking brain?? How exactly do you plan on thinking a thought when you're hunk of bones?

 

[sochokeonthis]

When you consider things like at the very least the vast majority of molecules in your body and brain are replaced many times throughout life span, (meaning most of you is replaced with a copy of you many times or at the very least most of you has died many times) Consciousness is fundamentally different that we perceive to an absurd degree etc. your cousouness has already lost died many times. You are not you in the way you perceive it.

I get the last part, I do. It's just that there's no way for me to think about it other than how I perceive it.

 

[sochokeonthis]

Non existence doesn't scare me at all. It is the idea that something other than non existence might be awaiting for me that scares the living hell out of me.

I wish I could identify with this thinking.

 

[Kellogg's]

....brain dead and dreaming is a bit different than being literally fucking dead. It doesn't matter where your brain goes when you dream because you're still alive. Your brain is still functioning for you. And with brain death the rest of your body is still functioning. I'm talking about when your body is fading to bones in a casket 6 feet under. And although we don't know much about what happens after death, it's pretty dumb to think that after your body is dead and decomposing, that you'll ever experience awareness again. It's unlikely you'll ever be aware again without a fucking brain?? How exactly do you plan on thinking a thought when you're hunk of bones?

Ever tried casting a spell? Ouija board? Now that it's Halloween season soon it's normal to try out such things. You might be a materialist right now, but if you'd just go deeper into the corridors of your mind then your concepts of the universe will naturally change as well. Wish I was as naive about the universe, hehe.

 

[millefeui]

I wish I could identify with this thinking.

Why? It is fear, the same way. We are simply scared of different outcomes.

 

[Achilless]

I am only fear of hurting people around me, that is why I don't try to take my own life, as I mentioned my thread, if someone tell me how I can make myself seriously ill, I would do this without thinking

 

[Lra888]

I read a book called Biocentrism and the author theorizes that consciousness makes what we perceive as the material world and not the other way around. Not sure if I believe it but interesting theory.

 

[Trashcan]

Non existence doesn't scare me at all. It is the idea that something other than non existence might be awaiting for me that scares the living hell out of me.

Same. The idea of an afterlife (even if it were heaven) and reincarnation seems far worse than nothingness.

 

[sochokeonthis]

Ever tried casting a spell? Ouija board? Now that it's Halloween season soon it's normal to try out such things. You might be a materialist right now, but if you'd just go deeper into the corridors of your mind then your concepts of the universe will naturally change as well. Wish I was as naive about the universe, hehe.

Thank you. I am truly enlightened. Who needs to worry about consciousnesses after death when you're a pseudo intellectual? two replys and no substance. Well I guess I now know how atheists feel arguing with christians. It must be really comforting for you to believe that you and your human brain are above death ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Taylored]

I honestly think it's unlikely you don't ever "come back" what you come back as is up to debate alongside where you come back to.

 

[sochokeonthis]

I honestly think it's unlikely you don't ever "come back" what you come back as is up to debate alongside where you come back to.

I'm not really talking about reincarnation. What I mean is you're going to leave your body. Like you're body is going to be gone. Like you're going to be in the ground and you're brain won't be aware of that. You're brain won't even be aware that you died. And I guess if you were to think of reincarnation it still wouldn't be one long stream of connsiousness, so you would still be unaware of some point. Like for example, you would be in your body while it's decomposing and be aware of what's happening to you.

I don't know if what I'm trying to say made sense lmao.

I guess my point is that even if you were to come back, that you're old conscious stream still died to some extent? And if you do come back you wouldn't fully be you.

 

[millefeui]

Depending on the concept of reincarnation one is following, even if you reincarnate, you are still not going to be "you" anyways. The new "you" would be nothing but a continuation of the karma left by the previous "you"... Or something like that. Trippy stuff.

That aside,

Have you ever fainted? Maybe it is different for other people, but when I fainted... Well, there was nothing. It wasn't like sleeping, it was like everything was gone. Like my brain shut down. At one moment, I was standing up next to the toilet, in the bathroom... The next moment I was laying down on the ground, and my hip was hurting like hell. The 15~ minutes I was gone literally didn't exist for me.

I think "non existence" is similar to that. There is no consciousness. It is not all black, because to realize black and colors (or in the case of black, lack of colors) is even a thing, consciousnesses is required. And to see blackness, eyes would be required (unless we get into spiritual stuff...), as well as consciousness, once again. So, if you died and were to come back with the same stream of consciousness (somehow), it would be like blacking out and waking up. The time in between... doesn't exist for you.

Maybe reincarnation, if it exists, it is like that. You die (everything "blacks out") and you wake up as a silly crying baby covered in blood and other fluids. The time in between, maybe decades, centuries doesn't exist for you. Dying and being born again would, from your perspective, happen almost instantly.

 

[Kellogg's]

Thank you. I am truly enlightened. Who needs to worry about consciousnesses after death when you're a pseudo intellectual? two replys and no substance. Well I guess I now know how atheists feel arguing with christians. It must be really comforting for you to believe that you and your human brain are above death ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Be that as it may, once you die you will either learn or learn not the truth about things like whether there was magic in this world and whether the consciousness survives death and so on. We shall see.

 

[ctoan]

then dont ctb (you will die eventually though)

 

[Nofaith]

Not existing doesn't scare me but it is difficult for me to comprehend. But hey it's got to be better than this.

 

[Donewith_]

I have never experienced NDE but I remember what happened when I fainted.
I fainted once when I was 6 or 7..We went to a picnic. A cousin brought drinking water in a bottle from somewhere.. I took a sip.. I fainted. I don't have any memory of what happened later. It was blank.

• It was a bit different when I fainted when I was 10. My uncle was taking a snap and I fainted suddenly.(think I was weak , had blurred vision from morning itself) . Later, my relatives woke me up, It felt like I was happily playing somewhere (don't know where it is) it was very happy, I felt very happy at heart, like the happiest person ever. I was disappointed when my relatives woke me up. Don't know if I was dreaming or whatever it is .

 

[Mljonzy]

I believe there is absolutely nothing after death i think it would be like general anaesthesia but forever like we never existed.

 

[overkill]

I wanna disappear, but I am partially afraid of going to hell. I also wouldn't want to be reincarnated.
If it was up to me, I would just forever sore through the astral planes as a disembodied spirit. I'll see what it'll be, I guess.

 

[deathoverlife]

Heaven or hell..reincarnation or not..after life or endless unconsciousness...what ever the death brings..am game for it..Death is some thing no one can escape..one day we all have to go..isnt it better to choose your time of death and thr path to exit as well...

 

[BlackDragonof1989]

Yeah I don't know myself, I've listened to a sermon on a theistic Satanism site that says that basically (if I remember right) people who have out of body experiences on drugs (not sure which, I know dxm can induce some various experiences but it's not the best choice if you want to try it drug route I have been told) where people see common entities and structures in another dimension, this particular branch of Satanism (I'm not advertising or pro JoyofSatan necessarily, I can't get into it because of the anti-Semetic stance they seemed to have but a friend wanted to teach me about it), but yeah, basically the speaker explains when a person achieves the correct states of meditation or spiritual discipline they can access these places? Is this the astral? Maybe someone can correct me on this, but basically explains drug users who got to that high of dosage may be tapping into a lot of risk if they're not spiritually educated and "in control" of the situation.

I've also read some trip reports where a boyfriend and his girlfriend were tripping on DXM and he claimed she read his feelings and thoughts while they were both like third or fourth plateau? She apparently also remembered recognizing his thoughts, but with these states it's hard to tell as hallucinations become much more frequent and drug-induced psychosis. But yes NDEs also offer insights possibly. Forgive my irrational sounding post, I've using DXM as an OTC bandaid for my own depression, which it kind of helps but it'll wear out soon enough and my moods still go all over the place hehe.

 

[sochokeonthis]

Depending on the concept of reincarnation one is following, even if you reincarnate, you are still not going to be "you" anyways. The new "you" would be nothing but a continuation of the karma left by the previous "you"... Or something like that. Trippy stuff.

That aside,

Have you ever fainted? Maybe it is different for other people, but when I fainted... Well, there was nothing. It wasn't like sleeping, it was like everything was gone. Like my brain shut down. At one moment, I was standing up next to the toilet, in the bathroom... The next moment I was laying down on the ground, and my hip was hurting like hell. The 15~ minutes I was gone literally didn't exist for me.

I think "non existence" is similar to that. There is no consciousness. It is not all black, because to realize black and colors (or in the case of black, lack of colors) is even a thing, consciousnesses is required. And to see blackness, eyes would be required (unless we get into spiritual stuff...), as well as consciousness, once again. So, if you died and were to come back with the same stream of consciousness (somehow), it would be like blacking out and waking up. The time in between... doesn't exist for you.

Maybe reincarnation, if it exists, it is like that. You die (everything "blacks out") and you wake up as a silly crying baby covered in blood and other fluids. The time in between, maybe decades, centuries doesn't exist for you. Dying and being born again would, from your perspective, happen almost instantly.

I don't know how I feel about reincarnation but I think you summed it up very well. And I agree that is probably what the non consciousness is like.

 

[sochokeonthis]

I wanna disappear, but I am partially afraid of going to hell. I also wouldn't want to be reincarnated.
If it was up to me, I would just forever sore through the astral planes as a disembodied spirit. I'll see what it'll be, I guess.

I don't think I'd mind being reincarnated if that is a real thing. I wouldn't mind the shot at another life. Maybe it would be better than this one¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[sochokeonthis]

I believe there is absolutely nothing after death i think it would be like general anaesthesia but forever like we never existed.

I completely agree with you. After you're dead I'm inclined to believe that you're just gone for good. I'm slightly open to the idea of reincarnation, but that's more of as a self-comfort.

 

[sochokeonthis]

then dont ctb (you will die eventually though)

I mean it doesn't really matter if I ctb or not when either way I'll die eventually. I'm just thinking out loud about the aftermath.

 

[Duqu]

Not existing scares me too. I mean, I know it happens to everyone someday logically but just the idea of not existing...*shudder* It's one of the main reasons I haven't yet.

 

[Kellogg's]

I wouldn't worry about it. You are not your body. I can't come back from another dimension to tell you there's nothing to worry about though, but guess at least I'll find out very soon.