Venting Dammit! I am nobody in this world

[Judah]

Damn bureaucracy, damn world of laws and jurisdictions, damn identity cards, damn nationals, damn everything !!
Dammit! I'm sick of being nobody in this world, of not having nationality, of not having a name, of not being able to open a bank account, of not being able to request public health services, of not being able to aspire to a credit or a pension, of not being able to aspire to properties like a house or a car, damn it! I am in a very complex legal vacuum and I suppose that my only option is to marry someone or CTB. My life is a hell

 

[ket]

oh that does sound complicated, i cannot imagine being expected to figure that out even without feeling like shit. i'm sorry but proud of you for trying so hard.

 

[Snake of Eden]

The way the world is like a big prison. Being born with the right passport is really more important than ever it seems

 

[Julgran]

I'm sorry to hear this.

Do you have legal representation, or are you left on your own? I wish the situation clears up eventually.

We can lend you an ear if you wish to vent

 

[Judah]

The way the world is like a big prison. Being born with the right passport is really more important than ever it seems

Exactly, even if I obtain a passport from my country, it will not be of much use to me due to the amount of restrictions that they have, I will be trapped here until I die

I'm sorry to hear this.

Do you have legal representation, or are you left on your own? I wish the situation clears up eventually.

We can lend you an ear if you wish to vent

Thank you, I sincerely hate my country, I say it without any fear, and that is to say this is a synonym of serious disrespect and people will look at you with contempt, but I did not choose where to be born.

 

[Julgran]

Exactly, even if I obtain a passport from my country, it will not be of much use to me due to the amount of restrictions that they have, I will be trapped here until I die

Thank you, I sincerely hate my country, I say it without any fear, and that is to say this is a synonym of serious disrespect and people will look at you with contempt, but I did not choose where to be born.

If you may - where do you reside now? If I understand it correctly, you are not in your country of origin, right? If you are, I don't understand what you need the passport for so hastily. You are free to elaborate on that if you want.

 

[Judah]

If you may - where do you reside now? If I understand it correctly, you are not in your country of origin, right? If you are, I don't understand what you need the passport for so hastily. You are free to elaborate on that if you want.

My nationality was completely removed for having categorically opposed the dictatorship of my country, and in order not to be persecuted, I escaped to another country

 

[Julgran]

My nationality was completely removed for having categorically opposed the dictatorship of my country, and in order not to be persecuted, I escaped to another country

I see. I applaude you for taking up a good cause, if that is the case, and I see how that can be a difficult situation. Do you know anyone in that other country who you can take shelter at?

 

[Judah]

I see. I applaude you for taking up a good cause, if that is the case, and I see how that can be a difficult situation. Do you know anyone in that other country who you can take shelter at?

I currently work here, but I cannot aspire to a bank account or receive money from abroad, I will always need a third party for things like that

 

[ket]

My nationality was completely removed for having categorically opposed the dictatorship of my country, and in order not to be persecuted, I escaped to another country

can you get someone who's gonna ctb to legally marry you first?

 

[Judah]

can you get someone who's gonna ctb to legally marry you first?

It's something that would take time, plus I'm not good at talking to girls, I'm somewhat shy

 

[Julgran]

Now, I have no idea how asylum works, but perhaps it would be a viable option for you to apply for asylum in the new country, but then perhaps the authorities there will alert your country of origin - I don't know. I wish I could be of more help to you

 

[ket]

It's something that would take time, plus I'm not good at talking to girls, I'm somewhat shy

you don't have to be good at talking if they're gonna be dead???

 

[Life sucks]

This world is cruel, stupid and inefficient. Lives are harmed because of stupid bureaucracy and papers. I hope you find a solution and someone to help with bureaucratic issues.

 

[chocolatebar]

Now, I have no idea how asylum works, but perhaps it would be a viable option for you to apply for asylum in the new country, but then perhaps the authorities there will alert your country of origin - I don't know. I wish I could be of more help to you

I was going to ask about this. Have you done any research about this, @JustJudah?

My nationality was completely removed for having categorically opposed the dictatorship of my country, and in order not to be persecuted, I escaped to another country

You're a brave person! I admire you

 

[Round Two]

Wow, that is fucking horrible. "No good deed goes unpunished" has been a theme throughout my life, too. Taking a stand against oppression should be celebrated, not something you get your life destroyed over.

 

[Judah]

Wow, that is fucking horrible. "No good deed goes unpunished" has been a theme throughout my life, too. Taking a stand against oppression should be celebrated, not something you get your life destroyed over.

I guess I really want to fix this

Have you done any research about this, @JustJudah?

It is a complex issue because political asylum only occurs if I can demonstrate that I am persecuted, which is almost impossible.

 

[Crazy4u]

That is a very difficult situation to be in. I'm sorry to hear you are suffering. You are not a nobody. You were born in bad situation. It is not your fault

 

[chocolatebar]

My nationality was completely removed for having categorically opposed the dictatorship of my country, and in order not to be persecuted, I escaped to another country

I know I'm being naive, but there are probably many in your same situation, aren't there? No country has shown any sympathy towards you?

 

[Judah]

I know I'm being naive, but there are probably many in your same situation, aren't there? No country has shown any sympathy towards you?

The problem is that the immigration situation in South America is complex, so it is also difficult for government entities to pay attention to me due to the number of migrants they also have to handle.

 

[chocolatebar]

The problem is that the immigration situation in South America is complex, so it is also difficult for government entities to pay attention to me due to the number of migrants they also have to handle.

I'm from Brazil and I thought immigration around here was much easier... Sorry for your situation. Wish I could help you somehow

 

[D&D]

Damn bureaucracy, damn world of laws and jurisdictions, damn identity cards, damn nationals, damn everything !!
Dammit! I'm sick of being nobody in this world, of not having nationality, of not having a name, of not being able to open a bank account, of not being able to request public health services, of not being able to aspire to a credit or a pension, of not being able to aspire to properties like a house or a car, damn it! I am in a very complex legal vacuum and I suppose that my only option is to marry someone or CTB. My life is a hell

I know from personal experience how terribly hard this is. At the time, I did not even knew the language.

I do not know if you have already consider it or if it is even an option for you, but if you can - speaking to a immigration/asylum seeking lawyer could change things for you. In most jurisdictions, there are several options available. Some of which only those working in the field are familiar with.

 

[Justsogone]

I can smell that we're from the same country.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

If it is any consolation: everyone is a "nobody" in the end. Social status, career advancement, nationality, wealth - these do not really exist in reality. The universe, according to our current understanding, is indifferent to human-made concepts.

 

[Midgardsorm]

You are an example of human being.

You stood up against the dictatorship of your country, may someday that man is overthrown and peace returns to there.

To me, you are a hero.

We will have elections here next year, I will probably be alive, so depending on who win, we might have a way of bringing you here. Long shot, but it's still something. I'll do whatever I can.

I'm sorry you have to deal with all that. But it is how @Round Two said: "No good deed goes unpunished."

 

[Julgran]

How is it going for our hero in South America? Have you had the time and fortitute to read the tips in this thread?

 

[Judah]

How is it going for our hero in South America? Have you had the time and fortitute to read the tips in this thread?

I'm pretty busy, haha, thanks for asking

 

[little helpers]

you don't have to be good at talking if they're gonna be dead???

yeah. and I just thought about it, like, the place where OP'd be able to find that girl (or whoever, in many centrist states gender don't matter) would probably only be on here. so OP can try ask around rn.

'cept it *is* a long process. if we're talking about America, getting started can take several months, first interview after 2 years, somehow I think there's another one 'round year 4 or something. after then, yeah, green card. spouse can be deceased somewhere in the process but at least you'll need to pass that 2nd year, I believe.

so OP better see if anyone of us has planned to die 2 years later. now that's a bit too hard.

 

[steviewonder]

No body is anything in the end. We all die one day