Could therapy ever work?

  • Yes

    Votes: 27 69.2%
  • No

    Votes: 12 30.8%

  • Total voters
    39
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occupymars

Member
Nov 22, 2020
9
Most of us here have tried and been failed by therapy.
Do you think therapy would have better efficacy if one could speed date therapists cheaply to find the "right" one?
Without wasting unbounded time suffering without a solution?
Just a thought on if it's worthwhile to hold out hope for a better future.
 
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Ghost2211

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Jan 20, 2020
6,017
Therapy works well for me as far as processing and coping. It doesn't change reality though, so have reasonable expectations. I think finding a therapist you connect with is pretty critical for it to be effective.
 
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Gnip

Gnip

Bill the Cat
Oct 10, 2020
621
Not in most cases.

Medical causes for what appear to be thought originated problems of psychology need to be identified and successfully treated before therapy could have any chance at working.

Before bullying relatives and school destroyed my life, I was born with severe congenital obstructive sleep apnea, a condition not diagnosable when I was born, and not treatable in 2020.

Therapy for conditions like narcolepsy, leukemia, Huntington's chorea, glaucoma, cancers and other diseases is not only obviously worthless and patently absurd, but criminally fraudulent. If therapy was useful for most of us, then Sanctioned Suicide might not exist. (How many of us are NOT here because of chronic pain or mental distress?)

"Speed date" therapists? How about speed therapy instead? I favor cost effective Single Session Therapy as the one modality for replacing Cognitive Behavioral Therapy as the only mode of psychological treatment covered by insurance.

Otherwise, teach coping skills like Progressive Muscle Relaxation, Autogenic Training, Diaphragmatic Breathing, Biofeedback (which can all be combined), or administer Clinical Hypnosis (more potent than any pharmaceuticals for pain relief).

Cures and rapidly effective treatments for many, if not most of the problems which have brought us to this site exist, and have existed for 175 years. (British physician James Braid coined the misnomer "Hypnosis" after Hypnos, the Greek God of Sleep in 1846.) However, there's little money in cures and effective treatments. Money is made by PREVENTING people from getting better, NOT by actually helping them. In this respect, psychotherapy is absolutely akin to an addictive drug.


Psychotherapists do not care about their patients. They care about making money off their patients, and protecting their licenses so they can continue ripping off victims until deciding to quit.


When my psychiatrist of 18 years achieved full financial independence, she abruptly closed her private practice, then ended her medical career overseeing my area hospital's mental health unit without advance notice a year later, walking away from all of it. For her, it's as if patients who she treated on a weekly basis for over 20 years no longer exist, and never existed. All we are to therapists are cash cows to be milked for profit as long as possible.

Another psychiatrist I had a fleeting encounter with later retired, moving from New England to Texas. Again, all connections to her patients was totally cut off. These people are not trying to wean us off their services, but aiming to keep us addicted to their care until they choose to leave their practices.
 
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Life_and_Death

Life_and_Death

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Jul 1, 2020
6,897
i think you should add a "maybe" or "complicated" to the poll.

ive been working on therapy by myself without a therapist for a little while. ive had 2 therapist but the first one didnt work out and i didnt get to see the second one long enough before i got canceled. so...they dont really count because theyve never even had a chance. however by myself i...seem to have gotten better. externally im told things are better for me but internally im not feeling so good. im hopeful maybe that will follow along sooner or later but im not sure. it might, it has the capability to but it feels like it never will. im not sure....i guess we'll see.
 
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Nymph

Nymph

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Jul 15, 2020
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I think it works well for some but unfortunately not for me. Plus just knowing the fact that I can't ever get rid of my mental issues for 100% is preventing me from even improving a little
 
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Sinkinshyp

Sinkinshyp

Paragon
Sep 7, 2020
947
yes therapy can be very beneficial. It's important to find a therapist you are comfortable with. Give it 3 sessions to see how you feel, if you don't feel they are a match try another one until you find 1 you can talk to. I know initially, you wont be able to invest much into therapy or what they offer due to being depressed. As time goes along if you invest a little time into what they suggest it will help.
 
hoping to lose hope

hoping to lose hope

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Nov 14, 2020
849
Therapy can work even if it does not solve your gripes with existing.
I think people tend to think that therapy and SSRI/SNRI just cure them when that is not the case for those who make their way here.
I am glad for therapy that taught me skills but why bother not ruining your life more when you want to die.
 
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AutoTap

Elementalist
Nov 11, 2020
886
Therapy works for some people and it's situational. I don't like therapy can help me because I havnt been helped by it.
In the past I would have said yes but now for me it's a no
 
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Tired_Tired

Student
Nov 25, 2019
158
If you are poor, homeless and have drugs addiction. I think it's difficult.
 
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Disappointered

Disappointered

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Sep 21, 2020
1,283
I don't believe it works at all. It's one of the greatest frauds in history.
 
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goodbyebunny

goodbyebunny

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Oct 19, 2020
105
I had some bad experiences with therapy that worsened my situation. I also had one really good therapist who really cared, and helped me a lot. Things got better for me after that, and I thought I didn't need therapy anymore. But here I am. Wish I could have sessions with that therapist again, but I don't have their current contact info :(
 
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demuic

demuic

Life was a mistake
Sep 12, 2020
1,383
It could work depending on what you're seeking from it. But it can't ever cure most "mental illnesses". And how much it costs in most places basically makes it a scam in comparison to how effective it usually is, especially if you get a shitty therapist which is more likely than a good one.
 
VivaldiBR

VivaldiBR

Experienced
Oct 4, 2020
249
Therapy, being good, just takes you out of ignorance. No therapy guarantees cure. If a psychologist promises you a cure, he will be unethical and a liar.

It is your actions and your commitment, starting from the therapy, that will bring real chances of cure. Its your process of self-knowlegded that will make the difference.

No therapists can save you if you dont do nothing.

It is your responsibility. There is no hero in this story besides the patient himself.

I had help from therapy, but that didn't cure me of panic syndrome, but myself, with my actions based upon from what ive learned on the therapy.
 
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SanJunipero1

Member
Apr 6, 2020
65
yes therapy can be very beneficial. It's important to find a therapist you are comfortable with. Give it 3 sessions to see how you feel, if you don't feel they are a match try another one until you find 1 you can talk to. I know initially, you wont be able to invest much into therapy or what they offer due to being depressed. As time goes along if you invest a little time into what they suggest it will help.
That's a lovely idea in principal but to the OP's point this is an unaffordable option for most people.
 
MichaelNomad123

MichaelNomad123

Jesus
Oct 15, 2020
433
Therapy is about you. Your therapist is just a guide. The journey is yours, regardless of the quality of your therapist. An experienced and relatable therapist is a boon, don't get me wrong, but I believe it's common for many to go into counselling services expecting miracles. That being said, there are a lot of helpful little tips and resources that a therapist can provide you depending on your flavour of mental health issue. I found elements of CBT beneficial to me, but overall I didn't draw much from the experience because of how I am and what I need. It's all about expectation management.
 
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MyStateKilledMe

Arcanist
Apr 23, 2020
463
Therapy is about you. Your therapist is just a guide. The journey is yours, regardless of the quality of your therapist. An experienced and relatable therapist is a boon, don't get me wrong, but I believe it's common for many to go into counselling services expecting miracles. That being said, there are a lot of helpful little tips and resources that a therapist can provide you depending on your flavour of mental health issue. I found elements of CBT beneficial to me, but overall I didn't draw much from the experience because of how I am and what I need. It's all about expectation management.
If I'm supposed to do all the work in therapy myself, then what the hell are those filthy parasites good for? What can they teach me that I can't learn from a book? Are they withholding information on purpose, so patients keep coming back and paying $100+ per hour each time? It's a lot cheaper to just buy a self-help book for $20, and can learn from it instead. Instead of having scamming talk therapy offices, we need to have self-help libraries, where patients can check out a book for a nominal fee, or buy the book outright for a retail price. And instead of talk therapists, we need to have librarians that can refer a patient to a proper self-help book.

I'm all for capitalism and business-friendliness, but talk therapy is one business model that should have never come to life!
 
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signifying nothing

signifying nothing

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Sep 13, 2020
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There's a tv series called In Treatment, which shows weekly sessions of psychotherapy with a number of different clients. Its a pretty realistic depiction and I found it helpful seeing how different problems might be approached and talked about. Worth the outlay if you're really short on cash for therapy of your own or want to know what it might be like.
 
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sarahR

sarahR

Experienced
Nov 11, 2020
225
Some people it does help, some it doesn't . Guess you have to try for yourself to see if it works on you. For me doesn't do much the medication. Therapy works well. Although after a few days I'm back to black. Hope it works for you.
 
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occupymars

Member
Nov 22, 2020
9
I forgot I posted this, I talked to a therapist and it wasn't very productive. Going to try some more. I was in a bad place thinking of drinking the SN I have
 
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Amandye13

Member
Sep 22, 2020
33
I think I'm about to fail my 4th therapist if I exclude all the ones from teenage years. Wow I really suck. I so want to die.
 
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occupymars

Member
Nov 22, 2020
9
I think I'm about to fail my 4th therapist if I exclude all the ones from teenage years. Wow I really suck. I so want to die.
You didn't fail them, they failed you. They purport they can help any mental illness and that's not true.
 
Mer

Mer

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Dec 2, 2020
66
I think therapy combined with something like shrooms may work. I read on Reddit not long ago that a poster did shrooms once and his depression vanished for 3 straight months. He had never felt so happy and fulfilled like that in years.
 
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occupymars

Member
Nov 22, 2020
9
I think therapy combined with something like shrooms may work. I read on Reddit not long ago that a poster did shrooms once and his depression vanished for 3 straight months. He had never felt so happy and fulfilled like that in years.
Do shrooms, they're good not as strong as acid but good
 

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