Correlation Between Intelligence & Suicide

[HGL91]

Do you think there is a correlation between intelligence and suicide? Even on this forum, you can tell a majority of posters on here must have had a fairly decent academic education based on writing style, grammar, and word choice.

My lack of hope and anger in humanity started in college as I learned more about politics, evolution of humans, psychology, and the maliciousness behind marketing, advertising, health care, and business in general.

 

[Kreeker]

I don't know is there really a correlation between intelligence and committing a suicide. I have not seen any credible statistics about that.
But I do believe there is a correlation between intelligence and suicide ideation.

 

[marcusuk63]

Maybe because the" less intelligent" just get on and do it and dont think it over too much , hence not being on here ?

 

[Baskol1]

No, but intelligence and depression.

 

[calendulo]

No, I don't.
What there is a correlation between imagination and suicide, but imagination is not a good company when you want to do a self deliverance.
I've read a lot of hilarious posts but those was perfect gramatically althought really was nonsenses.
People are around here, we are not smart people. Suicide is not for smart people, is for hopeless people.

 

[alizee]

I consider myself an intelligent person and I don't think it has anything to do with the circumstances of desiring to die. I've witnessed people from all spectrums, who committed suicide and I think you just need to be average thinking capacity for succeeding verses a failed attempt. Suicide happens like any other death. The external forces that a person experienced in life made the result happen.

We live in an imperfect society that's structured on inequality by the financial value/worth of a person. Each person born into unique circumstances has external forces that make them fall into certain categories of value for finances and that brings opportunities or nothing. Similar to circumstances of finding love, having a support system, having time for hobbies & leisure activities, paying for medical services and going to the gym with eating healthy. All the factors making success in life vs failure are dependant on the external forces exerted upon a person at birth (with genetics & environmental factors) and for what external forces proceeds with every force factoring from the preceding forces. Nothing in this world is random. People don't have free will.

So knowing the preceding is key in understanding oneself and circumstances at a deeper level. Nobody is really at fault for their circumstances because everything is predetermined. Intelligence doesn't correlate with suicide anymore than a person that's abused in childhood. The external forces that makes a person overcome whatever situations is what makes a person not commit suicide. Compared to a person that has external forces that do the opposite and lead a person to their death that couldn't have been any different.

 

[Jean Améry]

I'm sure this must have been researched already: suicidology is quite good at establishing meaningless correlations for lack of an actual causal model.

I'm not about to emerse myself in this muddy subject. This answer on Quora (https://www.quora.com/How-do-intelligence-and-suicidal-tendency-correlate?share=1) suggests there is a positive correlation for both high and low IQ with suicide.

Apparantly both the stupid and the bright are generally more prone to it. Which makes sense: if you're not that smart and have to live in this highly technological world where science and technology are worshipped and a bachelor's degree is deemed necessary even for office work you're probably not going to be very cheerful. I can't imagine having to do repetitive, meaningless, stupid shit all day, go home exhausted trying in vain to regain one's spirt knowing full well the next day is going to be exactly the same. If you are highly intelligent on the other hand you're more likely to have high expectations which might lead to suicidal ideation upon failure or frustration. Not to mention you'll probably realize life isn't going anywhere and it's the same old circle over and over again untill you die.

Of course this is all speculation on my part.

I do not understand how anyone can become despondent purely based on the state of the world, society, culture... without it affecting one personally. At least I'm not altruistic enough to identify with people I've never even met before nor do I want to kill myself because another airhead got elected who'll do nothing but fuck over the people including the fools who voted for him.

 

[Aliaiactaest]

Do you think there is a correlation between intelligence and suicide? Even on this forum, you can tell a majority of posters on here must have had a fairly decent academic education based on writing style, grammar, and word choice.

I have actually been pleasantly surprised at how articulate and well-spoken most posters are.

Earlier, I posted a link on MBTI types to find out what MBTI type was here. There were almost enough responses to be statistically relevant. Not surprisingly, almost everyone was an introvert. Almost everyone was an intuitive as well, which I guess surprised me since IRL only 25% are intuitives.

 

[Robbyna]

How can there be a correlation between suicidal ideation and intelligence if our ultimate goal as humans is to survive? Perhaps we've strayed too far from nature for anything we do to truly make any sense. Another question along those lines I'd have is why we continue to pollute our environment for unnecessary conveniences when we have no where else to live? In that way are we all suicidal?

 

[HGL91]

How can there be a correlation between suicidal ideation and intelligence if our ultimate goal as humans is to survive? Perhaps we've strayed too far from nature for anything we do to truly make any sense. Another question along those lines I'd have is why we continue to pollute our environment for unnecessary conveniences when we have no where else to live? In that way are we all suicidal?

I think we HAVE strayed too far away from nature for anything to make sense.

For your second question, I think many are too stressed to care, and they figure someone else will worry about the environment, and maybe some people figure the human race will just move to the south part of Mars one day.

I have actually been pleasantly surprised at how articulate and well-spoken most posters are.

Earlier, I posted a link on MBTI types to find out what MBTI type was here. There were almost enough responses to be statistically relevant. Not surprisingly, almost everyone was an introvert. Almost everyone was an intuitive as well, which I guess surprised me since IRL only 25% are intuitives.

Right? No one comes on here and is like "Yo dawg. Im rdy 2 dy!"

Interesting about the MBTI types. I guess we can hypothesize that being an introvert and depression go hand in hand more often. And many intuitives on here? Huh! What does it mean exactly to be an intuitive? To be a person that relies on gut feelings instead of facts?

I'm sure this must have been researched already: suicidology is quite good at establishing meaningless correlations for lack of an actual causal model.

I'm not about to emerse myself in this muddy subject. This answer on Quora (https://www.quora.com/How-do-intelligence-and-suicidal-tendency-correlate?share=1) suggests there is a positive correlation for both high and low IQ with suicide.

Apparantly both the stupid and the bright are generally more prone to it. Which makes sense: if you're not that smart and have to live in this highly technological world where science and technology are worshipped and a bachelor's degree is deemed necessary even for office work you're probably not going to be very cheerful. I can't imagine having to do repetitive, meaningless, stupid shit all day, go home exhausted trying in vain to regain one's spirt knowing full well the next day is going to be exactly the same. If you are highly intelligent on the other hand you're more likely to have high expectations which might lead to suicidal ideation upon failure or frustration. Not to mention you'll probably realize life isn't going anywhere and it's the same old circle over and over again untill you die.

Of course this is all speculation on my part.

I do not understand how anyone can become despondent purely based on the state of the world, society, culture... without it affecting one personally. At least I'm not altruistic enough to identify with people I've never even met before nor do I want to kill myself because another airhead got elected who'll do nothing but fuck over the people including the fools who voted for him.

Even bachelor degrees are becoming useless. Many workplaces, at least in Los Angeles, want a Masters degree. They even want it for bedside nursing. Crazy!

 

[sadsadinfp]

What does it mean exactly to be an intuitive? To be a person that relies on gut feelings instead of facts?

Mhm, so far as I understand it basically means that you prefer to make decisions based on feelings than based on reasoning. It also has to do with how you interact with the world, people who prefer to use intuition are more "big picture" people, have a strong sense of metaphor, and are interested in concepts and the meanings behind things, whereas "sensing" types tend to be more interested in the concrete, and are more down-to-earth and detail-oriented.

 

[Aliaiactaest]

Mhm, so far as I understand it basically means that you prefer to make decisions based on feelings than based on reasoning. It also has to do with how you interact with the world, people who prefer to use intuition are more "big picture" people, have a strong sense of metaphor, and are interested in concepts and the meanings behind things, whereas "sensing" types tend to be more interested in the concrete, and are more down-to-earth and detail-oriented.

I've always thought about it this way. An intuitive just knows where true north is; a sensor has to pull out a compass. Sensors are more focused on obtaining input through the five senses. Intuitives sort of just intuit these things and are more inwardly focused for their sources of information.

 

[Never Free]

I've always thought about it this way. An intuitive just knows where true north is; a sensor has to pull out a compass. Sensors are more focused on obtaining input through the five senses. Intuitives sort of just intuit these things and are more inwardly focused for their sources of information.

https://personalityhacker.com/develop-intuition-intuitive-awakening/ this really good as is the stuff I read on Anthony Gregorc am Intuitive Feeling aka Abstract Random

 

[Una]