Discussion conspiracy related and apolitical discussion on the american elections

[dieornottodie]

is it normal for the american elections to coincide with the number 20 20 plus covid, plus the civil unrest on some cities of the us, and ufo findings being publicly stated on official national news,

i am not american but i personally look to america as the most powerful country, so for me anything that changes the global discourse or life might be related to america s domestic affairs,

so do you think the american election is related to what is happening to the whole globe in 2020 or it is just a coincidence ??????

PS
i hope i dont piss off americans but i both like biden and trump, i like how badass they portray themselves to be or at least online, i have noticed that many humans not living in america look at this election as some sort of last episode of some thinggggggg

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Shortcut to the inevitable:

Anal probes.

 

[dieornottodie]

Shortcut to the inevitable:

Anal probes.

i ll carry with me enough lube then, u never know when things might go south

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

This election is just the same story as the 2016 one. People around me right now are so sure that Biden is gonna win and yet they're still not as sure as they were about Hilary Clinton winning back then. It does seem like COVID was strategically engineered in a way to make Trump look bad but some people are so tired of the media doing this every goddamn day that it looks like a "Boy Who Cried Wolf" situation.

Aliens might be part of it too. Could be a reverse War of the Worlds situation where the aliens weaken us with disease first. We'll just have to wait and see...

A little off topic but no I don't think things would be different if Bernie were the nominee. Personally I feel the only candidate who truly had a chance to win a good enough chunk of Trump's supporters was Andrew Yang but he had very little attention focused on him during debates so his campaign was doomed.

 

[dieornottodie]

Aliens might be part of it too. Could be a reverse War of the Worlds situation where the aliens weaken us with disease first.

wow never thought of this, to weaken us then show up emmmmmm

Andrew Yang but he had very little attention focused on him during debates so his campaign was doomed.

i liked andrew s ideas, but some ethnic based rumors linked him to china which as a non american frightened me. i hope it was just a rumor, once president xi became president for life i started to get scared, i dont want china to rule the world if they do our little country wld be a slave to the chinese masters and by then no country would help us against the theocracy ruling us, u wont believe it but the little freedom we have here in a third world country is thanks to the west and the fact they are strong military

but some people are so tired of the media doing this every goddamn day that it looks like a "Boy Who Cried Wolf" situation.

what scares is me is the instance in which votes wld be by mail, and ny and cali wld be last to send the results, and then in the meanwhile russia or china do some fuc ked up shit internationally and take control of the world, on a military scale, russia and china are on the ground in the middle east and south america and the pacific, also what if north korea tries something funny while the results of the election go public very late, i dont think the eu is capable of facing china nor russia

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

i liked andrew s ideas, but some ethnic based rumors linked him to china which as a non american frightened me. i hope it was just a rumor, once president xi became president for life i started to get scared, i dont want china to rule the world if they do our little country wld be a slave to the chinese masters and by then no country would help us against the theocracy ruling us, u wont believe it but the little freedom we have here in a third world country is thanks to the west and the fact they are strong military

I can see how that could be a concern but at least Andrew Yang is actually Taiwanese in origin meaning China would actually hate him more than they do Trump. Then again that could drive them into a warlike state so who knows.

what scares is me is the instance in which votes wld be by mail, and ny and cali wld be last to send the results, and then in the meanwhile russia or china do some fuc ked up shit internationally and take control of the world, on a military scale, russia and china are on the ground in the middle east and south america and the pacific, also what if north korea tries something funny while the results of the election go public very late, i dont think the eu is capable of facing china nor russia

Yeah...let's hope the aliens aren't working with those guys then.

 

[dieornottodie]

I can see how that could be a concern but at least Andrew Yang is actually Taiwanese in origin meaning China would actually hate him more than they do Trump. Then again that could drive them into a warlike state so who knows.


Yeah...let's hope the aliens aren't working with those guys then.

emm he is taiwanese , which pretend to be the real Chinese empire . if they are for democracy and human rights i wldnt mind

o yeah president xi wld be pissed if andrew is president emmmmm interesting

oh yeah the aliens i totally forgot, well if the aliens take me to their planet that wld be a fun time to be their slave

 

[BitterlyAlive]

I think there's a lot of corruption worldwide. I'm not sure if it's worse in America, or if we're just "louder". But I don't think anything going on is a coincidence.

And, just my opinion, but I think both sides are corrupt. We like to act like it's Democrats vs Republicans but it seems to me like the "higher ups" are pushing to get their agenda across no matter what - like the parties are really just pawns.

 

[dieornottodie]

I think there's a lot of corruption worldwide. I'm not sure if it's worse in America, or if we're just "louder". But I don't think anything going on is a coincidence.

And, just my opinion, but I think both sides are corrupt. We like to act like it's Democrats vs Republicans but it seems to me like the "higher ups" are pushing to get their agenda across no matter what - like the parties are really just pawns.

that is a difficult question, is it worse in the us,
i dont have the answer but

if i start telling you how many things are wrong in my country i wldnt stop, i mean most of us liberals here want to go to the us, your constitution is something every human being on earth dreams of, here we dont have the right to defend ourselves nor do we have the right to speak our mind, nor do we have the right to believe or not believe in a faith, nor do we have the right to express our sexuality and and and ....

the eu and america are the only ones who keep the theocracy here in check, which gives us liberals a little bit of freedom to live our lives in the dark, in the past there was no privacy the authorities here wld break doors and capture people inside their homes for being themselves and think critically of the system

here philosophy in public spaces like gardens or cafe is considered a crime against the state

so for me america is a dream, i follow the news every day for that matter and i am curious to know what others think

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I think there is another Near Earth Object due soon with a 0.5% chance of hitting us
I guess that would be a lucky escape for Arsenal if it did
And don't forget that if we cease anthropic climate warming right now, it would still be too late to stop it's cumulative effects over the next few generations.
So really, the Butt Probers will most likely be scrabbling around in the ashes anyway.
I for one...oh never mind...

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

emm he is taiwanese , which pretend to be the real Chinese empire . if they are for democracy and human rights i wldnt mind

Taiwan does believe they're the old China, but the old China was a beautiful country full of wealth and culture that the Chinese Communist Party felt had to be taken down. Taiwan itself has full on democracy and has a parliament. My parents came here from Taiwan so maybe I'm a little biased... Too bad Socialism is causing Taiwan's cost of living to go higher though but the same thing is starting to happen in the US, at least in California.

 

[BitterlyAlive]

that is a difficult question, is it worse in the us,
i dont have the answer but

if i start telling you how many things are wrong in my country i wldnt stop, i mean most of us liberals here want to go to the us, your constitution is something every human being on earth dreams of, here we dont have the right to defend ourselves nor do we have the right to speak our mind, nor do we have the right to believe or not believe in a faith, nor do we have the right to express our sexuality and and and ....

the eu and america are the only ones who keep the theocracy here in check, which gives us liberals a little bit of freedom to live our lives in the dark, in the past there was no privacy the authorities here wld break doors and capture people inside their homes for being themselves and think critically of the system

here philosophy in public spaces like gardens or cafe is considered a crime against the state

so for me america is a dream, i follow the news every day for that matter and i am curious to know what others think

You bring up some good points. We certainly do have more freedom here. I don't know anyone who has to worry about those kinds of things. :/

 

[Soul]

The crippling of the postal service to mess up mail-in voting worries me the most. That and the vision of having to forcibly remove the current resident from the WH when he refuses to concede ... Whose job will that be, by the way? Aliens would do fine!

 

[mediocre]

The crippling of the postal service to mess up mail-in voting worries me the most. That and the vision of having to forcibly remove the current resident from the WH when he refuses to concede ... Whose job will that be, by the way? Aliens would do fine!

If Biden does win isn't it true that all powers will be transferred to him by January 20, 2021 so won't he have the power to direct Trumps removal? How is that hard? I wouldn't hold your breath that Trump is going to lose though..

 

[dieornottodie]

Taiwan does believe they're the old China, but the old China was a beautiful country full of wealth and culture that the Chinese Communist Party felt had to be taken down. Taiwan itself has full on democracy and has a parliament. My parents came here from Taiwan so maybe I'm a little biased... Too bad Socialism is causing Taiwan's cost of living to go higher though but the same thing is starting to happen in the US, at least in California.

wow didnt expect that u will be related to taiwan, i think that s cool. once upon a time i applied for jobs in taiwan

I think there is another Near Earth Object due soon with a 0.5% chance of hitting us
I guess that would be a lucky escape for Arsenal if it did
And don't forget that if we cease anthropic climate warming right now, it would still be too late to stop it's cumulative effects over the next few generations.
So really, the Butt Probers will most likely be scrabbling around in the ashes anyway.
I for one...oh never mind...

well if they wanna probe us they better intervene to save our asses = D

for the near object, that is scary, but in the past many objects were thought to hit us.... the problem wld be a tsunami effect if they miss the earth

You bring up some good points. We certainly do have more freedom here. I don't know anyone who has to worry about those kinds of things. :/

conservatives in my country dont care because they encourage that kind of life style and attack on personal liberty, they believe their god is ok with it
but free thinkers and others like me who just want a bit of freedom suffer a bit, well i dont really know... it is hard to speak for others, but for me i used to be annoyed a lot when i had no money problems and was thinking about dating and expressing myself more freely in the real world lol

The crippling of the postal service to mess up mail-in voting worries me the most. That and the vision of having to forcibly remove the current resident from the WH when he refuses to concede ... Whose job will that be, by the way? Aliens would do fine!

yeah that is scary, emmm, i am an anxious person, and after some research, wall street and billionaires in the us are really enjoying these end of times if u look into the numbers of their revenues and stuff, some of them started buying loads of gold, emmm, in the news i read, which may be they thought they ought to be prepared if banks go bankrupt idk

 

[Dreamless Sleep]

if i start telling you how many things are wrong in my country i wldnt stop, i mean most of us liberals here want to go to the us, your constitution is something every human being on earth dreams of, here we dont have the right to defend ourselves nor do we have the right to speak our mind, nor do we have the right to believe or not believe in a faith, nor do we have the right to express our sexuality and and and ....

the eu and america are the only ones who keep the theocracy here in check, which gives us liberals a little bit of freedom to live our lives in the dark, in the past there was no privacy the authorities here wld break doors and capture people inside their homes for being themselves and think critically of the system

here philosophy in public spaces like gardens or cafe is considered a crime against the state

so for me america is a dream, i follow the news every day for that matter and i am curious to know what others think

Wow. I'm so sorry you have to live like that.

We have a lot of problems in the US... especially recently. Its very depressing to live here and see what is happening in our country. But reading your post kind of puts things in perspective to remind me that with all our faults we still have a lot of freedoms here that others are not afforded. Its appalling that people are still denied freedom like this in 2020.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

here philosophy in public spaces like gardens or cafe is considered a crime against the state

In Morocco?

 

[dieornottodie]

Wow. I'm so sorry you have to live like that.

We have a lot of problems in the US... especially recently. Its very depressing to live here and see what is happening in our country. But reading your post kind of puts things in perspective to remind me that with all our faults we still have a lot of freedoms here that others are not afforded. Its appalling that people are still denied freedom like this in 2020.

people get killed her or rot in prison for speaking against the system, but the biggest problem is the support from the masses sometimes the government will leak your whereabouts and then people will gather and do the job because they think their god wants them to do that, kill and beat the shit out of those who are against the kingdom in theory

In Morocco?

yes. dont get fooled by those who dont get arrested, usually they work for the government, or at least give info on their colleagues so they have that freedom, there was a movement called philosophy in the street, many were captured jailed and u know they got scared and stopped. during the arab spring, well many in morocco are not arabs but that is another complex topic, well there was a movement called 24 February, the movement was highjacked by society itself, so many here believe in their god and stuff so it had no support, also when people get captured no one helps them because everyone is afraid of their life, society here is so blinded by religion, that s why if you live in morocco as a foreigner u wont notice nothing, foreigners are ok to do what they wanna do, but if you are moroccan and liberal you get jailed, most people who speak against the system live in europe or have families high up who humor the authorities to not get them jailed

i am the one who is truly sad because i look to the west as the last hope for human rights but after what happened to assange i knew the world is maintaining its authoritarian objective, especially when epstein got more attention than assange in the media

 

[Sarahlynn]

It baffles me how 40% of Americans still think Trump is a good person to lead anything at all, let alone a country. He is a school-yard bully who is only after lining the pocket of himself and his cronies. The amount of hypocricy coming out of that guy is unbelievable.

Not a huge fan of Biden, but compare the two, it's insane to me that the polls are as close as they are.

But I am from "hell-hole" socialist Scandinavia, so what do I know. I am just happy the majority of our politicians are able to act like adults.

 

[dieornottodie]

It baffles me how 40% of Americans still think Trump is a good person to lead anything at all, let alone a country. He is a school-yard bully who is only after lining the pocket of himself and his cronies. The amount of hypocricy coming out of that guy is unbelievable.

Not a huge fan of Biden, but compare the two, it's insane to me that the polls are as close as they are.

But I am from "hell-hole" socialist Scandinavia, so what do I know. I am just happy the majority of our politicians are able to act like adults.

the recent american elections were led by a popularity contest, if you entertain the masses you ll get their vote
people dont really vote by reason but by emotion
plus a big chunk of america vote always one party, the party that their family vote for, no matter who is elected, that is why numbers are close and big
who truly lead are groups of people high up, trump is a representation of their wishes, you know common interest thing,
billionaires in these four years are the ones who capitalized on trump policies so...

if only i could visit any Scandinavian country, that wld be cool

 

[Dreamless Sleep]

It baffles me how 40% of Americans still think Trump is a good person to lead anything at all, let alone a country. He is a school-yard bully who is only after lining the pocket of himself and his cronies. The amount of hypocricy coming out of that guy is unbelievable.

Not a huge fan of Biden, but compare the two, it's insane to me that the polls are as close as they are.

But I am from "hell-hole" socialist Scandinavia, so what do I know. I am just happy the majority of our politicians are able to act like adults.

Biden is terrible too. What baffles me is how the American people have been suckered into believing that a 2 party system is our only option.... and picking between the lesser of 2 evils is the only way to go.

Why we cant break out of this is beyond frustrating. Watching people foaming at the mouth on both sides of the political spectrum is entertaining, but does nothing to help our country.

 

[Sarahlynn]

Biden is terrible too. What baffles me is how the American people have been suckered into believing that a 2 party system is our only option.... and picking between the lesser of 2 evils is the only way to go.

Why we cant break out of this is beyond frustrating. Watching people foaming at the mouth on both sides of the political spectrum is entertaining, but does nothing to help our country.

I don't find the insanity between the two sides in the US entertaining anymore, it has turned scary. The polarizing is moving to the extreme, and we see it happen other places in the world as well, the US is just some steps ahead. Even though I am leaning towards one of the sides, I see both sides carry blame in what happens.

My personal opinion is however that this is a wanted development from actors outside of the western countries, destabilizing the major powerhouses opens up possibillities that the EU and the US would oppose if we weren't so busy fighting ourselves. And they are doing a damned good job at it.

I'm very happy that my country currently have many parties to vote for, and we always have coalition governments. It is still divided into "left" and "right" though, but the bigger parties are dependent on the smaller ones to get anything done, so voting on the small parties are not wasted votes.

 

[Soul]

If Biden does win isn't it true that all powers will be transferred to him by January 20, 2021 so won't he have the power to direct Trumps removal? How is that hard?

To *direct* his removal yeah, but who actually does the removing? I guess Biden could just call the DC cops at that point, but aliens would be more fun.

 

[Grav]

Aliens: yes the covid is just for seasoning us, the virus makes something in our cells delicious. I don't buy alien-earth-brothers coming to save us from ourselves, more like Mars Attacks.

Conspiracy: Most Americans are too lazy to conspire to anything outside of fighting on FB. I was hoping for a third party to make a showing this year but the one I was looking at have some clown as a vp so that's out. I think Trump will leave the whitehouse when his time is up, his fans aren't that dedicated and there is a chunk of his supporters who vote for him because he's at least not from the normal political machines, but making himself king won't sit well. The whole election circus has pushed me farther to ctb than normal so I've self-quarantined away from news, which sucks because I like to be informed.