Eren

Eren

Si hablas español mándame un MP
Oct 27, 2018
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If I survive intoxication due to SN, what consequences would it have?
 
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ausboy96

ausboy96

Student
Nov 17, 2018
143
If you're rescued you'll be fine. Not sure what could happen if you survive. I'm wondering myself, because I'm going to attempt soon and I'm really worried what sort of permanent damage I could do if I survive (without being rescued/saved).
 
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OkTotti

Wizard
Nov 6, 2018
616
This guy survived a SN attempt... no permanent damage in his case

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-nitrite-attempt.2902/
 
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ausboy96

ausboy96

Student
Nov 17, 2018
143
This guy survived a SN attempt... no permanent damage in his case

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-nitrite-attempt.2902/

He was taken to hospital and was rescued. I think OP (and I) are asking what would happen if we survive and are not found.
 
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throwaway777

throwaway777

一人、部屋で、独り。
Oct 3, 2018
641
what sort of permanent damage I could do if I survive (without being rescued/saved).
so arent we sure if 15 g would be enough?
 
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ausboy96

ausboy96

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Nov 17, 2018
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so arent we sure if 15 g would be enough?

I know nothing about medical science so I have no idea. But there's probably a chance of survival, albeit a slim one. Just wanna be as well informed as possible before I attempt to CTB.
 
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throwaway777

throwaway777

一人、部屋で、独り。
Oct 3, 2018
641
I know nothing about medical science so I have no idea. But there's probably a chance of survival, albeit a slim one. Just wanna be as well informed as possible before I attempt to CTB.
this is scary
 
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Cody111

Student
Nov 16, 2018
175
I read somewhere the lethal dose in humans is between 73 and 200mg per kilo.
So for a 50kg person 10g should be more that lethal. 15g for a 75kg person should be more than enough. This is at the high end of the scale working on those numbers. Ill see if i can find citation.
 
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ausboy96

Student
Nov 17, 2018
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I read somewhere the lethal dose in humans is between 73 and 200mg per kilo.
So for a 50kg person 10g should be more that lethal. 15g for a 75kg person should be more than enough. This is at the high end of the scale working on those numbers. Ill see if i can find citation.

I'm 62kg. 15g should be enough :)
 
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NoOneKnows

NoOneKnows

Specialist
Sep 12, 2018
323
if you are dead within 1 hour, and they arrive soon after and send you to hospital, can they still reverse with methylen blue ?
 
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worldexploder

worldexploder

Visionary
Sep 19, 2018
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I wish someone would video tape themselves going by SN for educational purposes like Dignitas has for people who drank Nembutal. I think a visual aid would provide a lot of insight to how painful it really is and how long it takes to lose consciousness.
 
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Arak

Enlightened
Sep 21, 2018
1,176
I wish someone would video tape themselves going by SN for educational purposes like Dignitas has for people who drank Nembutal. I think a visual aid would provide a lot of insight to how painful it really is and how long it takes to lose consciousness.
Yes, but borderline ethical ...
 
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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
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if you are dead within 1 hour, and they arrive soon after and send you to hospital, can they still reverse with methylen blue ?
When you're dead they can't. But if you're not, chances are MB can be used to 'rescue' you.
 
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Cody111

Student
Nov 16, 2018
175
If you check the case study (if link works for you).
Biochemical analysis after death showed that the level of methemoglobin was 83.4%

But then ive seen the another where a guy survived with 92% but ambulance was called early.

Anything over 70% is said to be deadly. So if the 92% guy could be 'rescued' and make a full recovery then its really just a matter of if they find you in time.
 
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Lifeisatrap

Arcanist
Oct 5, 2018
408
I read somewhere the lethal dose in humans is between 73 and 200mg per kilo.
So for a 50kg person 10g should be more that lethal. 15g for a 75kg person should be more than enough. This is at the high end of the scale working on those numbers. Ill see if i can find citation.
I'm a short female, 44kg at most, planning on using 20 grams. Maybe do a taste test of 1 gram beforehand. Would that be
going overboard? I'm trying to make it as effective and quick as possible as I'm seeing alot of posts saying that isn't:(
 
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Cody111

Student
Nov 16, 2018
175
I'm a short female, 44kg at most, planning on using 20 grams. Maybe do a taste test of 1 gram beforehand. Would that be
going overboard? I'm trying to make it as effective and quick as possible as I'm seeing alot of posts saying that isn't:(
I wouldnt risk it, there is cases of people dying from ingesting smaller amounts but there could be many factors at play.
Id be worried about taking enough to get the side effects while not being enough to ctb. If your gonna do it, might as well do it right. If you throw up or feel like its not right for you for whatever reason you have a small window of time to call emergency serivces and make a full recovery.
 
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Lifeisatrap

Arcanist
Oct 5, 2018
408
"Id be worried about taking enough to get the side effects while not being enough to ctb." Yeah, my main concern is not taking enough to ctb, but then there's the higher chance of vomiting:/ So you think 15 grams would be a safer bet in my case?
 
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Ashpac

Ashpac

Lost and always will be.
Jul 22, 2018
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I have my SN. Id say between 17g - 20g just to be safe.
 
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NoOneKnows

Specialist
Sep 12, 2018
323
If you check the case study (if link works for you).
Biochemical analysis after death showed that the level of methemoglobin was 83.4%

But then ive seen the another where a guy survived with 92% but ambulance was called early.

Anything over 70% is said to be deadly. So if the 92% guy could be 'rescued' and make a full recovery then its really just a matter of if they find you in time.
Read the study, apparently the man vomited after digesting SN, but still caused the death. (s. Sodium nitrite was detected in the plastic bag containing white powder, vomited stomach contents, and glass of white turbid solution)
 
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