Committing suicide under radar

[kaikai]

Probably a hard one to figure out but what is the best way to commit suicide under the radar?

I am only staying around to support my wife whom I do love very much, financially, but I do not want to leave the burden of bills behind for her to deal with on her own.

I have life insurance but life insurance policies are definitely not user friendly with suicides.

My guess is there is no way around this....

 

[ma0]

Sooner or later, people will find out. That much is unavoidable.

There are a few ways to delay it be a few hours or a day at most, I'd imagine, perhaps you could say you're "just going out" but they will find out eventually.

 

[identity0]

You could check the contract of your life insurance policy. They vary wildly, especially depending on country. It is fairly common that they do cover suicide if you've had the policy for a certain period of time

 

[cme-dme]

Any method that looks like an accident will do. A car crash is a common one. Good luck finding a peaceful method that looks like an accident though...

 

[Eudaimonic]

Are you certain that your life insurance policy will not cover a suicide even after two years?

Any method that looks like an accident will do. A car crash is a common one. Good luck finding a peaceful method that looks like an accident though...

I don't recommend a car crash because of its unreliability. It's also not that difficult to tell that it wasn't accidental. Best bets are probably hypothermia or unconscious drowning for (relatively) peaceful methods with sufficiently high reliability that could look accidental

 

[kaikai]

Sooner or later, people will find out. That much is unavoidable.

There are a few ways to delay it be a few hours or a day at most, I'd imagine, perhaps you could say you're "just going out" but they will find out eventually.

Thank you for your reply

 

[nembutaldream]

Any method that looks like an accident will do. A car crash is a common one. Good luck finding a peaceful method that looks like an accident though...

Yeah, I'd make it look accidental, both for financial reasons (life insurance) and to lessen the impact. Maybe an opioid OD. Car crash would be better but might be kind of hard, also how much pain you're willing to risk is a factor because the successful suicides that look like accidents are usually also the riskier ones. Maybe get a dr to rx you medications that are fatal when combined and then take them at once so people think you did so accidentally. Idk, it is tricky for sure.

 

[babouflo201223]

Yeah, I'd make it look accidental, both for financial reasons (life insurance) and to lessen the impact. Maybe an opioid OD. Car crash would be better but might be kind of hard, also how much pain you're willing to risk is a factor because the successful suicides that look like accidents are usually also the riskier ones. Maybe get a dr to rx you medications that are fatal when combined and then take them at once so people think you did so accidentally. Idk, it is tricky for sure.

Do you really think that there are fatal medications when combined ?

 

[nembutaldream]

Do you really think that there are fatal medications when combined ?

Ofc. Study up on various medications, read studies. It's not difficult if you have the energy and moderate intellectual ability.

 

[AnotherSadDay]

There are some people that have died from CO because they fell sleep and the charcoal/heater kill them. Theres also people that have died because of CO poison due to sleeping in the garage without turning off the motor (in old cars)

But at the end all depends of the investigation made by the police/insurance company and their efforts to really know the cause of death.

 

[babouflo201223]

Bien sûr, renseignez-vous sur les différents médicaments, lisez les études. Ce n'est pas difficile si vous avez de l'énergie et des capacités intellectuelles modérées.

Ofc. Study up on various medications, read studies. It's not difficult if you have the energy and moderate intellectual ability.

I did, but I didn't find combined medications with fatal effects and fast and painless ones. Very very low chance of success and big risks to stay alive with awful results. There is a special section here devoted to medications as methods to avoid. Many years ago, barbiturics were possible. Now they are forbidden. Nowadays, medications obtained from a Dr are safe even if there is always a small risk of "fatal accident" (as for all medications). Would be great to have a proof of the opposite, really. If it was so easy, we wouln't be so many ones, here, unfortunately.

 

[kaikai]

Sooner or later, people will find out. That much is unavoidable.

There are a few ways to delay it be a few hours or a day at most, I'd imagine, perhaps you could say you're "just going out" but they will find out

Thank you all very much for your responses. I find them all helpful and will definitely have to think this all through!

Going to have to do some research. I'm definitely conflicted as I love my wife very much, but My family, especially siblings fucking suck and do not do a thing to help my parents and there health (both have alzheimer's).

I can handle only so much anymore. Thank you all again.

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

Yeah, I'd make it look accidental, both for financial reasons (life insurance) and to lessen the impact. Maybe an opioid OD. Car crash would be better but might be kind of hard, also how much pain you're willing to risk is a factor because the successful suicides that look like accidents are usually also the riskier ones. Maybe get a dr to rx you medications that are fatal when combined and then take them at once so people think you did so accidentally. Idk, it is tricky for sure.

The medical examiner will be skeptical that someone took a fatal megadose of an opioid by accident the first time they used the drug. They do interviews to learn about the person, their history of drug use, and any mental health issues. If the drug use is inconsistent with the person's history they're likely to classify it as suicide.

Car crash is also difficult because doing something like driving straight into a concrete wall at high speed will look suspicious, unless you have a history of reckless driving. Car crashes are still a lot more likely to be classified as accidents because it's impossible to know what was going on with the driver, they might have been distracted. Life history plays a big role in the investigation.

Hiding a suicide by prescription medications would be next to impossible because it's almost impossible to get prescribed lethal doses and combinations of medications in the first place. Doctors don't just hand out drugs like candy without good reasons, and they're very aware of interactions between drugs. Even if you managed to get enough of something for a fatal overdose, it requires so many pills that nobody would ingest that much by accident. Medical examiners aren't that gullible. The one exception I can think of is fentanyl or maybe another powerful opioid, if you took enough to be fatal but not enough to be suspicious. The problem is that talking your doctor in to prescribing something like fentanyl is unrealistic.

 

[nembutaldream]

I did, but I didn't find combined medications with fatal effects and fast and painless ones. Very very low chance of success and big risks to stay alive with awful results. There is a special section here devoted to medications as methods to avoid. Many years ago, barbiturics were possible. Now they are forbidden. Nowadays, medications obtained from a Dr are safe even if there is always a small risk of "fatal accident" (as for all medications). Would be great to have a proof of the opposite, really. If it was so easy, we wouln't be so many ones, here, unfortunately.

I think OD is discouraged as a method here because here most people are in situations where they have to be careful to not be found. If you live alone and can afford multiple attempts, IMO OD is the most enjoyable way to go out.

The medical examiner will be skeptical that someone took a fatal megadose of an opioid by accident the first time they used the drug. They do interviews to learn about the person, their history of drug use, and any mental health issues. If the drug use is inconsistent with the person's history they're likely to classify it as suicide.

Car crash is also difficult because doing something like driving straight into a concrete wall at high speed will look suspicious, unless you have a history of reckless driving. Car crashes are still a lot more likely to be classified as accidents because it's impossible to know what was going on with the driver, they might have been distracted. Life history plays a big role in the investigation.

Hiding a suicide by prescription medications would be next to impossible because it's almost impossible to get prescribed lethal doses and combinations of medications in the first place. Doctors don't just hand out drugs like candy without good reasons, and they're very aware of interactions between drugs. Even if you managed to get enough of something for a fatal overdose, it requires so many pills that nobody would ingest that much by accident. Medical examiners aren't that gullible. The one exception I can think of is fentanyl or maybe another powerful opioid, if you took enough to be fatal but not enough to be suspicious. The problem is that talking your doctor in to prescribing something like fentanyl is unrealistic.

First of all, how frequently are autopsies even done? I don't know enough about OP's situation to know how detailed of an investigation will be conducted. A lot of times if someone has no family, no investigation is done at all. This is how a lot of murders are committed and the perpetrator is never found because police don't have any motivation to look into the death further, bc there's no family hounding them and no other motivation. Depends a lot on race, class, local political climate, and a host of other factors.

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

First of all, how frequently are autopsies even done? I don't know enough about OP's situation to know how detailed of an investigation will be conducted. A lot of times if someone has no family, no investigation is done at all. This is how a lot of murders are committed and the perpetrator is never found because police don't have any motivation to look into the death further, bc there's no family hounding them and no other motivation. Depends a lot on race, class, local political climate, and a host of other factors.

At least where I am, and probably most of the US, autopsies are performed whenever the death is not clearly due to natural causes, and they're definitely performed for accidents and suicides. The medical examiner needs to collect enough information to determine the cause and manner of death, and they're generating documentation that could be used in any future legal proceedings. To determine the manner of death they need to differentiate between accident, suicide, homicide, etc... and the depth of investigation to determine that may vary, but it's a critical distinction for OP's insurance purposes. In addition to the medical examiner, the insurer may order an additional autopsy, and they will certainly do their own investigation as well.

Cases involving homicide are certainly more complicated, but the medical examiner is just concerned with the body so they can state undetermined or homicide for the manner of death and their job is done. Whether the police proceed with the case is up to them, they're in a totally different part of government with different priorities and budgets.

 

[nembutaldream]

At least where I am, and probably most of the US, autopsies are performed whenever the death is not clearly due to natural causes, and they're definitely performed for accidents and suicides. The medical examiner needs to collect enough information to determine the cause and manner of death, and they're generating documentation that could be used in any future legal proceedings.

I know for a fact from studying true crime quite a bit that this isn't true, unless the laws or procedures have changed in recent years, and that too across the board. Every single day evidence from rapes, homicides, and assaults sits in investigators' office improperly stored, untested, etc. If a death looks on the surface like it's a suicide and no one is hounding anyone to investigate further, it will be brushed off as such, even if in reality it was a homicide. That's just an example.

Anyway, discussing this is probably a moot point without knowing specifics of the OPs situation. I agree with you that insurance companies would certainly do a thorough independent investigation. I'm interested to know, though, if you have any sources for your claims.