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I've read that downers slow down processes caused by the central nervous system, such as breathing. That's why it's not recommended to combine two downers. Would combining three cause a certain death? If yes, would it be painless after blacking out? I'm thinking of something like combining benzodiazepines, opioids and alcohol. Sorry if this is a dumb question.
 
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Not a dumb question but I wonder what doses and what drugs you're talking about 🤔 I plan on doing the same with a lot of gabapentin, alcohol, and hopefully fentanyl. I think that'll be good enough. I hear these are pretty difficult to do successfully so I feel like fentanyl is necessary. 🤷‍♂️I don't wanna ask around for fent tho 😬😬 that sounds awful😥 all the forum people say N is ideal but that's very expensive.
 
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If I may, I wouldn't just do any alcohol as those are just toxic and make you sick. I'd go for something like it, but 20 times more potent. 2m2b. Look into it.
 
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If I may, I wouldn't just do any alcohol as those are just toxic and make you sick. I'd go for something like it, but 20 times more potent. 2m2b. Look into it.
They sell it on the jungle site. It looks as if it could make you go blind though?
 
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2m2b causing blindness? Could it be talking about methanol?
In one review they mentioned: "But, be warned, this chemical is being sold as a recreational drug in the UK. Be VERY CAREFUL if this is your intention. The LD 50 of the drug is less than three times the recreational dose."

Sounds like just drinking it on its own would be enough to CTB?
 
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If you do all 3 in excess it will work.
 
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I advise you not to use any sort of pill to CTB. This can lead to an incredibly painful departure. You may experience a lot of the delusion while under no control. This can cause seizures, mouth foam, choking, etc;

It is just a bad idea. Period.

EVEN when you take several.
 
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If I may, I wouldn't just do any alcohol as those are just toxic and make you sick. I'd go for something like it, but 20 times more potent. 2m2b. Look into it.

Is GHB stronger and why can't it be used? Just a little over the top and bam down you go, at least it could be?
 
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I've read that downers slow down processes caused by the central nervous system, such as breathing. That's why it's not recommended to combine two downers. Would combining three cause a certain death? If yes, would it be painless after blacking out? I'm thinking of something like combining benzodiazepines, opioids and alcohol. Sorry if this is a dumb question.
Powerfulk opiods can work and the rest could relieve some pain during the process if taken in the right doses to make you feel better.
Not a dumb question but I wonder what doses and what drugs you're talking about 🤔 I plan on doing the same with a lot of gabapentin, alcohol, and hopefully fentanyl. I think that'll be good enough. I hear these are pretty difficult to do successfully so I feel like fentanyl is necessary. 🤷‍♂️I don't wanna ask around for fent tho 😬😬 that sounds awful😥 all the forum people say N is ideal but that's very expensive.
Fentanyl can work but possession of fentanyl will send you to prison in the u.s. Fentanyl is only prescribed for severe pain in the u.s., such as just after surgery or for late-stage cancer- you'll never be able to get a prescription for this.
 
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In one review they mentioned: "But, be warned, this chemical is being sold as a recreational drug in the UK. Be VERY CAREFUL if this is your intention. The LD 50 of the drug is less than three times the recreational dose."

Sounds like just drinking it on its own would be enough to CTB?
I initially thought that too… but better to just add something to be on the safe side… 😅
Is GHB stronger and why can't it be used? Just a little over the top and bam down you go, at least it could be?
That's a good question. I suppose You could use that too.

When I learned of that 2m2b, I was looking up an alternative of 1,4 butanediol, due to the flaws of vomiting. But if you can get GHB, then yeah, go for it.
 
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I initially thought that too… but better to just add something to be on the safe side… 😅

That's a good question. I suppose You could use that too.

When I learned of that 2m2b, I was looking up an alternative of 1,4 butanediol, due to the flaws of vomiting. But if you can get GHB, then yeah, go for it.
According to a review on a popular retail website: "Should not be able to sell on *redacted* or anywhere my friend's husband drank it and died 2 weeks ago. People are getting high off of it."

So I suppose just drinking it on its own *would* technically be enough to kill you. The question lies in how much of it you'd require, and then how exactly would you die (slowly/painfully of organ failure, etc.), and if you survived what the complications or damage incurred would be?

This looks as though it could have promise, though.

A news article mentioned:
At a news conference on Tuesday, Mr. Kees strongly cautioned against anyone getting any ideas of abusing the substance. It is extremely dangerous, with "a very minute difference between using it successfully and fatally," he said.

"I don't think that anyone could imagine that a pathologist would use his knowledge and expertise in such a way," he said. "This substance, if you don't have the right proportions, is lethal."
 
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According to a review on a popular retail website: "Should not be able to sell on *redacted* or anywhere my friend's husband drank it and died 2 weeks ago. People are getting high off of it."

So I suppose just drinking it on its own *would* technically be enough to kill you. The question lies in how much of it you'd require, and then how exactly would you die (slowly/painfully of organ failure, etc.), and if you survived what the complications or damage incurred would be?

This looks as though it could have promise, though.

A news article mentioned:
At a news conference on Tuesday, Mr. Kees strongly cautioned against anyone getting any ideas of abusing the substance. It is extremely dangerous, with "a very minute difference between using it successfully and fatally," he said.

"I don't think that anyone could imagine that a pathologist would use his knowledge and expertise in such a way," he said. "This substance, if you don't have the right proportions, is lethal."
About 30 ml is the lowest known lethal dose.
 
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About 30 ml is the lowest known lethal dose.
How exactly does it kill you? Would it be a painful death? Just curious (sorry for bombarding you with questions). I know it isn't a method mentioned in the PPeH so there's probably not much information on it.
 
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How exactly does it kill you? Would it be a painful death? Just curious (sorry for bombarding you with questions). I know it isn't a method mentioned in the PPeH so there's probably not much information on it.
Respiratory depression.
 
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I tried this method twice i wont disclose what type of medication but to stay the least it was very strong pill , 4 of them and did it twice mind you i dont really do drugs at all (no combinations)btw ,I almost succeeded passed out for like 2 hours felt like 6 and woke up gasping for air because i was face down and could not move a single muscle then started to have seizures permanently after those experiences which was actually very scary feeling. I suppose combinations of medications would work but there are more peaceful methods on my opinion, whatever happends i hope you find peace .
 
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Would you pass out or be conscious for it?
You'd be unconscious. It's sedative qualities are like alcohol on steroids, comparable to that of chloral hydrate and peraldehyde.

Just 2-4 grams is enough to make you lose consciousness, if I remember correctly. Though other sources say around 18 grams.
 
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They sell it on the jungle site. It looks as if it could make you go blind though?
I keep seeing people refer to this jungle site, can someone please pm me some info on how to find it please?
 
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Why not choose SN but also take enough Benzos / opioids (oxys my fave) beforehand so that your doped out and feeling good but also have a full proof way to CTB? I think depending on what downers you take it's too unreliable as you'd have to take a lot usually to end your life, unless you take fentanyl or something.
 

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