Discussion Combining methods?

[Electra]

Hi,

What do you think about combining several methods to ctb? What methods could be combined in order to increase the effectiveness? When I say combined, I don't necessarily mean doing them together at the same time. I mean increasing the likelihood of success by adding another method.

 

[the_path_of_sorrows]

I myself have thought of using a rope for full suspension on the bridge rail.. so when I jump off, I either gonna be decapitated within seconds or if the rope snaps, I will be drowning in a river. For me it's the favorite combo.

 

[Jadeith]

Initially i aimed for exit bag variation but since SN is quite easy to obtain, i think i will use both.

 

[roommate]

Initially i aimed for exit bag variation but since SN is quite easy to obtain, i think i will use both.

Well if you wanna puke in your exit bag it might can happen

 

[Kbeau]

Well if you wanna puke in your exit bag it might can happen

Yeah, I wouldn't combine those.

 

[Forveleth]

I know people want to be sure they die, but my thought on this is that combining methods just makes it more complicated. The more complicated you make it, the more factors there are to fail. There are more materials needed, timing needs to be very coordinated, the physical setup is now more intensive. Personally, I would rather pick one method, prepare it well, and do it right.

 

[NoPoint2Life]

Hi,

What do you think about combining several methods to ctb? What methods could be combined in order to increase the effectiveness? When I say combined, I don't necessarily mean doing them together at the same time. I mean increasing the likelihood of success by adding another method.

This actually has a name - complex suicide

 

[Electra]

I know people want to be sure they die, but my thought on this is that combining methods just makes it more complicated. The more complicated you make it, the more factors there are to fail. There are more materials needed, timing needs to be very coordinated, the physical setup is now more intensive. Personally, I would rather pick one method, prepare it well, and do it right.

You're right, it is because I wanna make sure it's gonna end in success. And I also see how combining two methods can cause more problems than just picking one and going with it. I was more thinking about combining for ex SN and then another method like partial hanging, so that if SN doesn't do it, hanging will complete it. But yeah, maybe perfecting one would be enough.

 

[roommate]

I was thinking about SN and jumping from a bridge at the same time.
But if I don't jump in time and get caught I might screw up both lol

 

[cme-dme]

I was planning to jump off a 40 story building and as I'm falling, drink SN then pull out a gun and blow my brains out. I can be 3x dead

 

[UglyInk]

Hi,

What do you think about combining several methods to ctb? What methods could be combined in order to increase the effectiveness? When I say combined, I don't necessarily mean doing them together at the same time. I mean increasing the likelihood of success by adding another method.

I'm thinking about putting a rope around my neck and object, then drinking SN, then jumping from the elevated position to hang to death.

 

[SchrodingerIsDed]

SWIM's attempt was this so-called complex attempt. It included lacerations leading to significant blood loss and a poly-overdose. SWIM did not know before coming here that cutting only results in a 1%-2% success rate. It is very difficult. But SWIM assumes the moderate blood loss (maybe 1 liter) assisted in weakening the body to make the OD more effective. SWIM checked GPT after he got out of the hospital and found the combined effect did assist total lethality. Whereas a normal cutting attempt would only have a 1%-2% chance, the combination of the poly-OD and the significant blood loss were synergistic.

The poly-OD was a risk of 50%-70% on its own with those particular substances. Since 4-5 drugs were used that also may serve as a complex attempt in itself maybe. The blood loss contributed to an increased 20% risk for a total of 70%-90% chance of a successful ctb. Pretty good chances for OD. But with medical intervention, that fell to 5%-30%. Drastic.

SWIM would not recommend. Pure insanity occurred which drove SWIM into the open and interactions with police and medical professionals were inevitable due to extreme psychosis as a result of the medications.

Hanging is highly lethal by itself so SWIM would imagine any combination including hanging would be effective.

 

[Electra]

I was planning to jump off a 40 story building and as I'm falling, drink SN then pull out a gun and blow my brains out. I can be 3x dead

Lethality 100%
Original death -

 

[wiggy]

Ideally you should be choosing a method that's reliable enough that there shouldn't be a need to compound it with something else. Like Forgeleth mentioned, as you introduce more moving parts I feel the chance you'll make a critical mistake rises exponentially.

 

[cme-dme]

KISS
-------
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
Silly

 

[L'absent]

There are many combined methods. For example this one described below.

After fasting for six hours, take 8 mg of ondansetron or 10 mg of metoclopramide to prevent nausea and vomiting. Around the same time, drink 100 ml of strong alcohol, like vodka or whiskey, to slow digestion and help the body absorb everything more efficiently. About 45 minutes before, crush 5 to 10 oleander leaves and mix them into a high-fat liquid, like milk or oil, which slows stomach emptying and maximizes the absorption of its cardiac toxins. Thirty minutes before, consume 5 grams of Aconitum napellus root, preferably in an alcohol tincture, for rapid absorption through the mouth and intestines. If using powdered aconite, encapsulate it in gastro-resistant capsules to avoid stomach irritation that might trigger vomiting. Fifteen minutes before, take 10 mg of diazepam (Valium) or lorazepam (Tavor) to reduce anxiety and suppress any natural panic response. Five minutes before, move toward the train tracks, paying attention to early symptoms like tingling, dizziness, and the first irregularities in heartbeat as the toxins start taking effect. As the train approaches at over 100 km/h, position yourself on the tracks. By this point, the combination of oleander and aconite will have already begun severely disrupting the heart's function, making unconsciousness or cardiac arrest imminent. If the poison hasn't acted yet, the impact ensures there's no coming back.

 

[Jadeith]

Well if you wanna puke in your exit bag it might can happen

If my exit bag or rather mask works as intended, there will be no puking (no oxygen in the muscles) and i will die within minutes. Long before any reaction from my stomach. If not (some oxygen left in the blood), SN will remove the rest and at this point i wouldn't give a damn. Would be unconscious anyway. And puke might add another factor - possibly blocking the lungs. A win in terms of effectiveness.

 

[avoid]

You can combine suicide by train and falling from a great height. I don't know if this will increase your odds of taking your life but you get style point.



Seriously though, I think it's better to focus on one suicide method by tailoring the method to your situation and personal needs than to combine multiple suicide methods. And if two methods compliment each other perfectly then I think someone will write an instruction manual on this combination and call it a new (singular) method.

 

[Electra]

And puke might add another factor - possibly blocking the lungs. A win in terms of effectiveness.

New method unlocked: Puke asphyxiation.

 

[roommate]

New method unlocked: Puke asphyxiation.

Lol, can't get much more gross then this.

KISS
-------
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
Silly

Last S could be secure!