EveryBreathIsWar

EveryBreathIsWar

My body wants to live but my mind wants to die..
Dec 27, 2019
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Hi, I've been quiet over the past month or so since my last attempt to ctb so I've spent time for about just over a month now to divert from suspension/full suspension hanging to co method. I'm familiar with how the co method is carried out however I've got a galvanised metal oval bucket which means it'll give off toxic zinc fumes initially from the coating so I was just wondering whether I could bypass the chimney starter and use the galvanised bucked instead so for 40mins or so of the coal getting ready outside then this coating will be gone and not a problem and save time whereas if I did use a chimney starter then dumped the coal into my galvanised metal bucket I don't want the toxic layer coating mixing with the co in case is jeopardises the method completely if anyone can see where I'm coming from? Would it be okay to bypass the chimney starter for this reason and is it still do able without one? Thankyou everyone for your time, means alot. Appreciate it. EBIW.
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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I think it's going to burn more evenly in the chimney starter. Can you not get a different bucket, or somehow remove the zinc coating in advance?

Also, the coals should be cooled, not burning. It's my understanding the transfer is so that they are more spread out to release the CO. Maybe I'm missing something here.
 
EveryBreathIsWar

EveryBreathIsWar

My body wants to live but my mind wants to die..
Dec 27, 2019
16
I think it's going to burn more evenly in the chimney starter. Can you not get a different bucket, or somehow remove the zinc coating in advance?

Also, the coals should be cooled, not burning. It's my understanding the transfer is so that they are more spread out to release the CO. Maybe I'm missing something here.
Thanks for your response, ideally I'd want to use a chimney starter with newspaper only to get the coal going until it's greyish and no smoke being emitted which should take around 20mins-40mins then as from what people have mentioned about it being a "hot mess" I'd assume you then transfer the coal to the bucket ect. Not many people or information I've come across has properly elaborated on this but it'll still be putting out just enough co from what I've stumbled across and reading between the lines in stories and articles ect. If they are cooled then you'll minimal time for them to fully go out which is not what you want as it's risky and your more likely to wake up with a anoxic brain injury or something. I plan on spreading the coals out after transfering them, maybe when I've got the chimney starter lit initially I can put the whole thing in the bucket for the period of getting the coal ready to clear the zinc layer from the galvanised steel bucket? Thanks again, EBIW.
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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If they are cooled then you'll minimal time for them to fully go out which is not what you want as it's risky and your more likely to wake up with a anoxic brain injury or something.

This is what's unclear. The coals continue to emit CO for several hours. When enough CO has built up in the space, that's when it's fatal. Lots of folks take sleeping meds for that period to avoid symptoms of headache, etc.
 
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Toxicandtired

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Mar 5, 2020
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I work with galvanized steel daily, if you burn something inside the bucket long enough the galvanized will burn off leaving you with a grayish less shiny steel. The zinc is only a coat and can easily be burned off. Also "zinc poisoning" is at very most mildly inconvenient. It's not gonna cause any excess pain or agony.
 
EveryBreathIsWar

EveryBreathIsWar

My body wants to live but my mind wants to die..
Dec 27, 2019
16
This is what's unclear. The coals continue to emit CO for several hours. When enough CO has built up in the space, that's when it's fatal. Lots of folks take sleeping meds for that period to avoid symptoms of headache, etc.
Yes that's right usually between as a baseline 2-6hrs depending on the coal used ect. Anti emetics like sleeping pills help with preventing a headache and nausea to make it more of a comfortable transiton.
I work with galvanized steel daily, if you burn something inside the bucket long enough the galvanized will burn off leaving you with a grayish less shiny steel. The zinc is only a coat and can easily be burned off. Also "zinc poisoning" is at very most mildly inconvenient. It's not gonna cause any excess pain or agony.
Okay, thank you for the information. Really appreciate it, means alot. Thanks, EBIW.
 
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