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Richard Langford

An ordinary older guy.
Jan 10, 2025
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I've been looking at this but I have some questions (I suppose pertinent to the UK).

(1) I want to pass in my own bed. Would I be able to do the whole process in a room therefore say in a metal bucket (with a lid slightly open to avoid sparks). We're in Winter in the UK, doing it outside and then bringing it inside might cause suspicion off the neighbours. Or do I start it outside to get it going to bring in? I'd also need a grill and foil to put the bucket on to not cause a fire.

(2) Does it smell? It's a silent killer but does it reek?

(3) Somebody mentioned to me that UK charcoal possibly had been changed to limit this going on. Anyone UK aware?

(4) Like lots of Brits I have a connected property. What's the chance of the CO passing to such through a wall or loft space (going up and down)? No one wants to harm other people.

(5) My plan would be to seal the room prior as well as possible. Take some Benzos a good bit before. Leave the charoal to it in said bucket with an ajar lid. Go to bed. Workable?
 
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Feb 6, 2020
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I wouldn't want to do this in a room, a tent is a better option as the fumes could potentially leak and harm your neighbours.

I'm not aware of charcoal being cracked down on in the uk but it certainly wouldn't surprise me.

If you use the search function you'll find some great info on this method. Previous user Zanexx passed with CO in a tent. - they documented how it all went.
 
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Richard Langford

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Jan 10, 2025
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I wouldn't want to do this in a room, a tent is a better option as the fumes could potentially leak and harm your neighbours.

I'm not aware of charcoal being cracked down on in the uk but it certainly wouldn't surprise me.

If you use the search function you'll find some great info on this method. Previous user Zanexx passed with CO in a tent. - they documented how it all went.
For 'me' my own bed, room, house is a must so the potential to harm others is dissuading me from this method. I'd be mortified (wherever I was) if that did.

Soneone mentioned Eco friendly charcoal in the uk giving off much less CO. Not sure if there's anything in that.
 
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LittleBlackCat

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Feb 6, 2020
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I hear you. I wanted to do it in a hotel, I found one in my area and the rooms had balconies so I was going to light the bbq in the middle of the night out on the balcony then bring it inside. I haven't completely ruled it out. But a tent would be better
What about an Air bnb out in the forest/woods. Like a cabin? I like this idea personally. I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this without a co reader (to measure the levels of co) they can be expensive
 
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Richard Langford

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Jan 10, 2025
377
For me my own home is a must. I did contemplate walking out into the sea - I'm in a seaside town but its cold and im soft lol. Not that, not harming other people is a must for both of us.
 
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LittleBlackCat

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Feb 6, 2020
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Oh I could never walk into the sea. I don't like the idea of drowning

CO used to be my method but now I'm swaying back to SN
 
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Richard Langford

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Jan 10, 2025
377
Oh I could never walk into the sea. I don't like the idea of drowning

CO used to be my method but now I'm swaying back to SN
I've looked at a few methods.

1. Opiods - difficult to get if you're not into that scene or the DW/Telegram.
2. CO - The danger to others.
3. Prescription stuff like Tramadol or BP meds - might work might not.
4. Nitrogen or Helium - I would if I could do it in a room or with a mask but I dont like hoods.

Hence, I can see why people gravitate to SN. Not hard to get. Ancillaries not hard to get. Easyish to do. Some discomforted but these can be mitigated.
 
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The problem for me is my depression can be so bad I can't concentrate on anything.. so figuring out all these different methods is too much for me.. it literally blows my mind lol. I have Stan's SN guide saved so I will literally follow it step by step. I did a fair amount of research into Co.. I'm not ruling it out.
It's getting over the fear of actually doing it. I'm really scared.
 
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Richard Langford

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Jan 10, 2025
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The problem for me is my depression can be so bad I can't concentrate on anything.. so figuring out all these different methods is too much for me.. it literally blows my mind lol. I have Stan's SN guide saved so I will literally follow it step by step. I did a fair amount of research into Co.. I'm not ruling it out.
It's getting over the fear of actually doing it. I'm really scared.
That's because its scary. I'm also concerned from a theological point of view. Thats scary for me too.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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Have you calculated the amount of charcoal you need according to the volume of your sleeping room?

The minimum amount is 0.135kg/m³. I would at least double or triple that amount. It's much more difficult seal a big room than a tent.

 
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Richard Langford

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Have you calculated the amount of charcoal you need according to the volume of your sleeping room?

The minimum amount is 0.135kg/m³. I would at least double or triple that amount. It's much more difficult seal a big room than a tent.

Hmm. It's not a huge bedroom and Im sure I could. The consideration for me is would any CO seep next door somehow? 😕
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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Hmm. It's not a huge bedroom and Im sure I could. The consideration for me is would any CO seep next door somehow? 😕
The CO will go somewhere and it's a danger to neighbors though still most of it will seep through doors/windows of your room and into your flat. This is also a danger for people who find you if they come "too early".

CO is a little bit lighter than air you will find the highest concentration of it near the ceiling not on the floor. That's why it is also advised to use a space as small as possible.
 
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Richard Langford

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Jan 10, 2025
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The CO will go somewhere and it's a danger to neighbors though still most of it will seep through doors/windows of your room and into your flat. This is also a danger for people who find you if they come "too early".

CO is a little bit lighter than air you will find the highest concentration of it near the ceiling not on the floor. That's why it is also advised to use a space as small as possible.
I live in a 3 bedroom house but I take your point onboard. In the UK most homes aren't detached but connected so thats why I've abandoned the idea - the Co could seep next door and endanger neighbours which would be horrible.
 
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NegevChina

I've done the best I could
Sep 5, 2024
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I've looked at a few methods.

1. Opiods - difficult to get if you're not into that scene or the DW/Telegram.
2. CO - The danger to others.
3. Prescription stuff like Tramadol or BP meds - might work might not.
4. Nitrogen or Helium - I would if I could do it in a room or with a mask but I dont like hoods.

Hence, I can see why people gravitate to SN. Not hard to get. Ancillaries not hard to get. Easyish to do. Some discomforted but these can be mitigated.
CO used to be my method, I've even started making preparations. After considering the dangers, I've changed my mind and made preparations for Nitrogen. Since my biggest fear is failure in an attempt, a failure with CO seams to me more likely and more dangerous than failure with Nitrogen. Nitrogen is preventing Oxygen from your blood, but CO is replacing Oxygen and binding CO to your blood. It takes effort and time to undo. If something goes wrong and you abort, with Nitrogen there is a chance you suffer no injury. With CO you will have to be rushed to ER and need treatment removing the CO. With Nitrogen its also easier to create a controlled environment in the exit bag with 0% oxygen to knock you out in 2 breaths. With CO its more of a gamble and much harder to reach the necessary 10000 PPM that will knock you unconscious in seconds and you might suffer unpleasant symptoms.

My method evolved as my initial panic and physical condition was so bad, I've considered the quickest most available methods:
1) OD of meds I had available, (not a good chance of success)
2) Jumping 9th floor (Easy access for me)
3) Train (Better chances then jumping)

At this point I got a little better and was already capable of buying stuff:
4) Hanging (Bought rope)
5) CO (Bought charcoals, grill, CO detector)
6) Nitrogen (Bought full tank, regulator+flow meter, tube, components for exit bag)

Right now I'm all set for Nitrogen, just waiting for the right time, may be set a date, or feel bad enough to go ahead and just do it.
 
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