Pryras

Pryras

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Feb 11, 2020
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Was just prescribed citalopram and will be trying it out for the next several weeks.

From what I read, it seems like it puts you in a numb, dissociative type state. I'm worried, since I feel like that's the last thing I need.

Loss of appetite/libido is whatever but the possible hallucinations freak me out. I already experience nightmares regularly so I don't want to make them anymore vivid.

Your experiences with the medication?
 
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Gladtogo

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Jun 6, 2020
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I've taken citalopram before. It definitely left me feeling slightly numb, I didn't expereince any hallucinations. I guess everyone's different in the way they react though. Like I said in another thread, if it numbs the pain for a bit, coupled with CBT it's worth a shot. It's not the solution in itself though, not for long term. Good luck with it, I hope they help.
 
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dysfunctional

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Oct 26, 2018
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It made my depression insanely worse. But I have Bipolar. It pretty much put depression on fast forward for me. Bipolar "mixed state". Horrific. Thought about suicide every second of every day, desperate to die. But this is specific to bipolar depression.
 
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CTB-London

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Feb 26, 2019
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I found that Citalopram made me feel a bit wooly in the head and caused loss of already limited libido. I discontinued it because it did little for my depression that is situational in nature rather than clinical. Sertraline didn't help either for the same reason.
 
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searchingfreedom

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I hated citalopram. It gave me the most vivid nightmares I've ever had and left me feeling like I was in a fog for the rest of the day that I couldn't shake off. Of course, some people have found it helpful but wow did I hate it lol. Really hope that you are having a positive experience with it so far! Just wasn't for me.
 
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SuicidalSymphonies

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Oct 13, 2019
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I hated citalopram. It gave me the most vivid nightmares I've ever had and left me feeling like I was in a fog for the rest of the day that I couldn't shake off. Of course, some people have found it helpful but wow did I hate it lol. Really hope that you are having a positive experience with it so far! Just wasn't for me.

Oh man... The nightmares when I was on citalopram. I can totally resonate with this.

Nightmares so bad that I woke up, paranoid. And was basically schizoaffective until I had no choice but to move home because I was mentally shattered.

However, the drug can work differently for everyone.. But my experience was complete torture. It didn't make me any less depressed either. It was the first antidepressant I ever went on.
 
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Shamana

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May 31, 2019
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It definitely made me numb and killed off my sexdrive and function.
 
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Fullof pain

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Jul 1, 2020
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Everyone reacts differently to meds. Citalopram worked well for me for about 10 years, with no side effects except dry mouth. Then it stopped working altogether. Maybe it's worth trying to see how you respond to it, escitalopram is very similar but with even less side effects, so you could keep that in mind as a back up plan?? Good luck anyway.
 
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Epsilon0

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Dec 28, 2019
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I was on Citalopram for many years and it helped me a lot when I started taking it. At the time my mental health impared me severely and I desperately needed something to ease the anxiety.


Citalopram 20 mg numbed me enough to allow me to start going to therapy, deal with panic attacks at work and generally "care less" about my other health problems. It cut the lows in the sense that there was a threshold to how low I would get.

When my agoraphobia and panic attacks started getting better, I reduced Citalopram to 10 mg hoping to get rid of the side effects.

While on 20 mg I had horrible nightmares, a feeling of being cut off from reality, brain zaps, restless legs at night and yawning. I would also wake up almost every night and have an overwhelming feeling of impending doom.

While on 10 mg I still had all the symptoms above, but they were less intense and therefore more manageable.

Although my doctor told me the side effects would subside after my body adjusted to the drugs, I experience side effects for the entire duration of the treatment.

But, like I said, Citalopram numbed me and that numbness helped me go to therapy and go back to work.

I wish you the very best @Pryras and hope these meds will do you good. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you!
 
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enjolras

Dead are useless if not to love the living more
Feb 13, 2020
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I took EScitalopram (revised version w/ less side effects, also among all the SSRIs) for 1+ month, at 10mg then 20mg (max dose), following the recommendation of K-O, which I thank cause I've been soon enough cleared away of any suicidal pulsions, although I'm following a more complete regimen so cannot attribute the benefit strictly to it. It's probably a helper that should be explored mandatorily by any potential CTB'er.

I experienced a great happy mood high at the start for 1 & a half day (that I wish had continued) then never again. But I now know I develop extensive tolerance immediately with any type of substance (plus maybe my appreciation is personally impaired?!). At the start, I also went through bad inconsistent & randomly delayed side effects like diarhea, sensations, brain fog, some insomnia. It passed in a matter of days globally. No dissociation but less mental clarity, thinking block & some anhedonia continued. Sure loss of libido, way less distraction from the opposite sex, but I'm starting from an biased hormonal background : I turned into a NoFap dude with zero effort, not noticing ...which I'm grateful about, as I perceive it as a benefit (about energy retention, time consumed & other judgemental parameters I won't develop).
SSRI can make you resume to be functional like @Epsilon0 stated, even midly incapacitated. My complaint about Escitalopram specifically is a rollercoaster action, unsteady during the day (variation on the downside cause I got no clear upside)
Doubling the dose for a short time didn't help but made me feel worse (maybe it was due to the accommodation during transition partly).

So, OK isolated impact but also nothing at all transcendental.

I was attracted to other anti-depressants I had researched. The decision was hard but I decided to switch for the most nocive potent one : Paroxetine, more anti-anxiety driven. The pharmacies in my country deliver a lot of meds without prescription so I can bypass a doctor's POV. There are 3 psychiatric ways to transition, gradually not overlapping or overlapping, or without precaution (least recommended), what I did with zero problem. However, to balance things out, I chose to start & stick at half the minimal dose, and I might drop it now to a quarter.
I'm a living testimonial of long-term post-consequences of the chemical industry so I'm decided to not listen to prescriptions and stay below all thresholds advised.
Conclusion : 10mg Paroxetine (equivalent to 5mg Escitalopram approximately), more or less the same impact but more stability, but if I'm honest, more insomnia. However, almost impossible to orgasm, lightly more sexual anhedonia (expected). At worse, do not mind, happy if I last 2 hours. I believe there will be a physical reeducation part following, to improve this aspect, and other supplements are coming my way (DHEA & misc).
Finally, I've agreed after a consultation with a specialist to again switch ...to Fluoxetine (Prozac), which is in-between both, more focused on anti-depression and less so against anxiety, since I do not really measure this impact anyway, that has more a potential of energiser/booster. I will take 5mg (eventually 10 if unsifficient) equal to 5mg Paroxetine / 2.5mg Eacitalopram - no matter the advice is 20mg.
The reaction is always gonna be a matter of luck. I also plan to test Amitriptyline (TCA, other class) to judge for myself, which btw could be ok to combine with SSRI at low dose, avoiding the serotonine syndrome. Studies show some synergy of both and it would best suited to cure insomnia ? even more than Mirtazapine, ok too as a combo

In the end, if the aim is essentially to fight the suicidality, I'm now convinced I can rely on "homeopathic" doses with the same results. The rest I will take care through general life hygiene.

Oh yeah, I don't know if it was a pre-sign of Akathisia (@ohhgeeitsme knows something about it) way way early, but on "high" doses of Escitalopram, I was tensed to stand still at rest and pushed to move more than usual. I traveled 2 half days by bus / train and it was complicated. I too am more "activated" on lower Paroxetine but more like normal (no longer aloof from heavy depression).

——-Meanwhile——

During that month, I tested :
* benzos : Tranxene (best, for nothing/sleep ?) + Xanax, abusing them (twice then four times the normal dose, even mixing). Worked once, then near water/placebo ? For ME = bollocks ! Never received Midazolam from the darknet. Skipped Valium cause that class = too much of a disappointment.
* hypnotic : Zopiclone - worst of my trials. Although better to get "wasted" than benzos, zero sleep induction (on ME). Next day heavy physical weakness, strong metal taste in the mouth that alters the food. Uber shite & the only pill I discarded after 4 times.
I know Zolpidem & prefer it as more reliable w/ less aftermath, but makes me feel like shit all the same, just differently > trashcan
(==> would use ANY of these to CTB, counting on sedation or numbing potentiation as I imagined for SN ? Nah, unless for a joke ?! can't believe the time I spent on these details)
Certainly, I'm addiction prone for substances. I'm not fond of measurements & caution, eyeballing, and my ability to adapt is scary. I'm already dependency sensitive for several behaviors. If at all, I realised I could set myself awkwardly in danger zone, to attempt to forget about the outer world without reason.

Happy discoveries :
* microdosing magic truffles. Zero bad sides, zero trippy distorsion. Initial time, subtile senses & focus enhancement. The music was better, I could listen to english and separate the words of sentences more clearly, like the time slowed & my cognition was better mastered. The sun & light on me felt gentle, like a caress, even eyes closed. Next times, normal, can't comment. Tried to "double up", felt good again.
* vitamin B3 Niacin - the form provoking skin flush - in overdose (for me, 150mg finally, but for most people 100mg, rarely up to 400mg). Tested only twice because I caught massive sunburns walking in the mountains & couldn't add up, the pain might have been a bit rough (for an unexpected result). Tbh, I have no serious idea what the stuff is good for, I'll read more. It is said the targeted mechanism is about dispersing in the entire body other elements you supplement with, so to take at the same time than the rest, last. In practice, I just know it functions as advertised. I can feel it starts to spread in my chest then to my neck and face, then every other extremities of the body (even my dick which as a stimulation w/o will cause an erection better than Viagra or looking at a female's naked body ! am 40yo, not 20). Concretely, it's a form of half discomfort half tingling, close to a sunburn, your skin turns reddish at spots, lasting 30-40 minutes in my case. Call it masochism but in parallel it wakes you up with alertness and also materialises into a contrast of soothing? after it has passed. Validated!
Will continue both with faith, since my quest is minimal tolerance for disadvantages, first & foremost.
 
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mathieu

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Jun 5, 2019
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This is the first psych med I tried. I think it helped a little. Numbed the aching pain and stopped me crying so much, but I still wanted to die. It did suppress my sex drive.
 
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Thanatos

Outsider
Mar 23, 2018
365
Was just prescribed citalopram and will be trying it out for the next several weeks.

From what I read, it seems like it puts you in a numb, dissociative type state. I'm worried, since I feel like that's the last thing I need.

Loss of appetite/libido is whatever but the possible hallucinations freak me out. I already experience nightmares regularly so I don't want to make them anymore vivid.

Your experiences with the medication?
It might work for some but I had that exact numb dissociative state when I took it and I still experience it on some level to this day(6 years later). If you have a bad reaction be careful
 
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foreverlikethestars

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Jun 23, 2020
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no affect on my depressive symptoms
 
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ceelo

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May 18, 2020
298
Just read through this thread? thats all you need to know about ssris right there, they don't work, at best they mask symptoms, they arent any kind of solution and the cons out weight the pros.
 

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