Charcoal method.

[WAITING TO DIE]

I've been thinking of an alternative method, to jumping. Jumping isn't complicated if I choose a high enough place and can overcome survival instinct, yet deep down I would like to go peacefully.
I've been looking at the inert gas method but it's just so stupidly complicated to me and expensive.
I'm now looking into the charcoal method combined with a ton of booze and a few benzos.
I wouldn't use a normal tent, but would build a small room with heavy duty builders polythene and gorilla tape.
My question are this: what is the best type of charcoal to use, and do I really need a co2 meter ?

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

i tried yesterday. you want a co meter. not to be condused with co2. type of charcoal? i really couldn't say. i have limited options but most say the hardwood. not the briquettes. i think i'll try again with the briquettes and hardwood. i'm skeptical now but may as well use them. i'll try and relax a bit today. maybe tomorrow.
i posted a little while ago on my attempt. if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

Thanks man, I didn't know you attempted, just read your post now from yesterday. Thanks very much for the info, and sorry it didn't work out so good for you yesterday.
Thinking maybe a couple of bags of ice cubes next to me to help stand the heat ?
I dunno, just looking into stuff at the moment.

 

[Finalnight]

I've been thinking of an alternative method, to jumping. Jumping isn't complicated if I choose a high enough place and can overcome survival instinct, yet deep down I would like to go peacefully.
I've been looking at the inert gas method but it's just so stupidly complicated to me and expensive.
I'm now looking into the charcoal method combined with a ton of booze and a few benzos.
I wouldn't use a normal tent, but would build a small room with heavy duty builders polythene and gorilla tape.
My question are this: what is the best type of charcoal to use, and do I really need a co2 meter ?

Wish that I could help, this was my first alternative and also the one that led me to find this site, but since I meet the SN method I completely discarded this way to ctb, especially for the fact that you could end up with brain damage in case of failing, aren't you worried about that?

 

[Weltall]

I've been thinking of an alternative method, to jumping. Jumping isn't complicated if I choose a high enough place and can overcome survival instinct, yet deep down I would like to go peacefully.
I've been looking at the inert gas method but it's just so stupidly complicated to me and expensive.
I'm now looking into the charcoal method combined with a ton of booze and a few benzos.
I wouldn't use a normal tent, but would build a small room with heavy duty builders polythene and gorilla tape.
My question are this: what is the best type of charcoal to use, and do I really need a co2 meter ?

TL;DR: Technicially doesn't matter which charcoal you use as they all would produce the same amount of CO, HOWEVER, comments state to not use briquettes, and use natural charcoal instead.

Carbon monoxide megathread

Hi, this will be the megathread for the carbon monoxide method. I have some questions about the charcoal method, is it a simple method to do? Like buying charcoal and setting it or there is some steps and setup to follow The ppeh gives low rating for preparation but good rating for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I'm not sure if you found the answer yet, but I found consistency with these responses.
I then verified with some academic sources that it was true as well.

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

i think they have to burn evenly. when you decide to enter makes a huge difference. i can't remember what was worse. the heat on my arm or the heat overall. just basically sucks.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

Wish that I could help, this was my first alternative and also the one that led me to find this site, but since I meet the SN method I completely discarded this way to ctb, especially for the fact that you could end up with brain damage in case of failing, aren't you worried about that?

Yes, I've just been doing some research about potential pitfalls of co method. I don't want to end up brain damaged.
Thanks for replying anyway.

TL;DR: Technicially doesn't matter which charcoal you use as they all would produce the same amount of CO, HOWEVER, comments state to not use briquettes, and use natural charcoal instead.

Carbon monoxide megathread

Hi, this will be the megathread for the carbon monoxide method. I have some questions about the charcoal method, is it a simple method to do? Like buying charcoal and setting it or there is some steps and setup to follow The ppeh gives low rating for preparation but good rating for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I'm not sure if you found the answer yet, but I found consistency with these responses.
I then verified with some academic sources that it was true as well.

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Thanks Weltall. This is definitely helpful.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

A CO meter is useful but not and absolute necessity, people who consumed a lot of alc and other sedatives often failed (that's my impression). I would go without it bc CO is lethal enough.

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

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Carbon monoxide megathread

But how don't the bottom of it melt with coals? I mean the metal buckets for that are made for ashes and used coals gets so hot that it will burn anything from its bottom if there is no wooden thing underneath it (they are made for empting cold or warm ashes from fireplaces and burn from bottom...

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Carbon monoxide megathread

Is there a way to do this without a car and without using fire? I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room. I will be lighting the...

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[WAITING TO DIE]

A CO meter is useful but not and absolute necessity, people who consumed a lot of alc and other sedatives often failed (that's my impression). I would go without it bc CO is lethal enough.

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Carbon monoxide megathread

But how don't the bottom of it melt with coals? I mean the metal buckets for that are made for ashes and used coals gets so hot that it will burn anything from its bottom if there is no wooden thing underneath it (they are made for empting cold or warm ashes from fireplaces and burn from bottom...

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A CO meter is useful but not and absolute necessity, people who consumed a lot of alc and other sedatives often failed (that's my impression). I would go without it bc CO is lethal enough.

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Carbon monoxide megathread

But how don't the bottom of it melt with coals? I mean the metal buckets for that are made for ashes and used coals gets so hot that it will burn anything from its bottom if there is no wooden thing underneath it (they are made for empting cold or warm ashes from fireplaces and burn from bottom...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Carbon monoxide megathread

Is there a way to do this without a car and without using fire? I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room. I will be lighting the...

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Thanks man, I'm having a bad episode of brain fog at the moment and trying to find specific advice on here.
This is much appreciated.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Thanks man, I'm having a bad episode of brain fog at the moment and trying to find specific advice on here.
This is much appreciated.

Feel free to ask anything bc CO is also my method of choice when I have to CTB.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

Feel free to ask anything bc CO is also my method of choice when I have to CTB.

Thank you so much. It looks like you have done a lot research on this.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Thank you so much. It looks like you have done a lot research on this.

I decided for the CO method several years ago already, long before I even fell that low to search for a community like this one.

 

[Meditation guide]

Looking at my own known issues with SI, and knowing when I actually start to ctb I will switch over into panic mode, screaming and running and calling for help uncontrollably, CO is the only option I would probably be successful with because I can be asleep for it hopefully.

And it requires the right place, away from everyone else. I was about to assemble a gulps machine which uses a face mask and the mixing of two acids and realized that would fail too, for the same reason that I would panic and remove the mask.

I don't know how people have the self control ctb takes. To go into a small room full of CO knowing you won't walk out. I'm not sure I have the capacity for even that. To be in the position I'm trying to mentally fortify myself for, of directing my actions to finding the right place, getting it all set up, testing it, this is surreal.

Switching on a smelly noisy generator seems easiest.

 

[gbi2]

I have two instant barbecues and I think my experience in playing games such as Rimworld and Oxygen Not Included (ok I know they are games but they do have some real world physics programmed in) has made me think that having a 'buffer' room can help over come this siiuse where the levels can go down.

So what I mean is, I;d have one barbecue in my bedroom and another in the walk -in wardrobe. So when I walked into the bedroom, the reduction in concentration wouldn't matter as much as there would still be a greater concentration in the wardrobe. It seems, in the games at least, this way of dealing with different mixtures of gasses and temperatures is more effective than having a single room with double the amount of a gas or double the temp in. More in the main room, just means more escapes. Gasses can act as a buffer. The problem here being that you want the gasses kept in, but the temperature to escape. An open fridge or freezer could combat this.

Anyway, just musings, not giving advice or anything.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

@gbi2 you need minimum 0.135kg / m³ charcoal. Depending on the size of your room this can be a lot of charcoal. Glowing charcoal spreads heat no doubt but it shouldn't be unbearable, except in summer depending on where you live.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

I'm not sure I have the capacity for it either, well at least not yet anyway. I guess it all comes down to how desperate we become and having confidence in the method.
A petrol generator sounds OK. At least they don't have catalytic converters in them , so should work fine.
I wanted to use charcoal method with booze, but found out alcohol dilates the small blood vessels, and affects haemoglobin levels, so some people say its best to stay sober with charcoal method.

I have two instant barbecues and I think my experience in playing games such as Rimworld and Oxygen Not Included (ok I know they are games but they do have some real world physics programmed in) has made me think that having a 'buffer' room can help over come this siiuse where the levels can go down.

So what I mean is, I;d have one barbecue in my bedroom and another in the walk -in wardrobe. So when I walked into the bedroom, the reduction in concentration wouldn't matter as much as there would still be a greater concentration in the wardrobe. It seems, in the games at least, this way of dealing with different mixtures of gasses and temperatures is more effective than having a single room with double the amount of a gas or double the temp in. More in the main room, just means more escapes. Gasses can act as a buffer. The problem here being that you want the gasses kept in, but the temperature to escape. An open fridge or freezer could combat this.

Anyway, just musings, not giving advice or anything.

Thanks, this is interesting.

 

[gbi2]

@gbi2 you need minimum 0.135kg / m³ charcoal. Depending on the size of your room this can be a lot of charcoal. Glowing charcoal spreads heat no doubt but it shouldn't be unbearable, except in summer depending on where you live.

My home is built to current UK legal spec which means the bare minimum space. I think the main bedroom equates to 6 pop up 2 man tents in size and the walk in wardrobe, 1.5 tents. The walk in wardrobe is wide enough to be slept in but would be very close to the barbecue.

I have one of those tents but have thought that it isn't worth setting it up inside what with teh wardrobe being there and everything, and outiside, I ahve been unable to mow the small lawn for months meaning no stable ground to set it up on.

I've just weighed one barbecue and it's ~550g with packaging. I think that means the wardrobe would result in excess concentration while the bedroom would result in whatever the oppossite of excess concentration is.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Without knowing the volume it's hard to say. I would always double the minimum amount and spread on 2 BBQs depending on the amount needed.

You mention tents. I have thought of using a tent inside the flat. it's easier to fill it with CO than a whole room.

CO itself is a little bit lighter than air, that means lying on the floor is the worst position. People have failed their attempts laying in their bathtubs. There are threads here wehre people report this.

 

[AllCatsAreGrey]

I wanted to use charcoal method with booze, but found out alcohol dilates the small blood vessels, and affects haemoglobin levels, so some people say its best to stay sober with charcoal method.

Thanks for that share. I heard about drinking not being a good mix, but didn't know why. Makes sense.

 

[gbi2]

I'm not sure I have the capacity for it either, well at least not yet anyway. I guess it all comes down to how desperate we become and having confidence in the method.
A petrol generator sounds OK. At least they don't have catalytic converters in them , so should work fine.
I wanted to use charcoal method with booze, but found out alcohol dilates the small blood vessels, and affects haemoglobin levels, so some people say its best to stay sober with charcoal method.

Thanks, this is interesting.

This is the thing, with a lot of methods I can't get my head around how some succeed and some don't.

I mean some of the tents people appear to die in from this method look bigger than my bedroom - and the ventilation seems better. I;ve got 2 barbecues and my new build house has no draughts.

When I was younger I had a headache and sickness for 3 days which I think was caused by my gas supply running out causing the fire to extinguish a bit while I slept before the gas had stopped flowing. Even though I was in one room (called a 'bedsit' in the UK), it was huge in comparison to my bedroom now. I suppose the question there was did the gas run out too soon, or was there simply not enough concentration built up.

I'm not scared of suffering brain damage eitehr, at least tehre would be a reason for me being a bumbling idiot. I see the thought of walking aroudn with a headache for a few days, much worse, and I've got appointments to go to and act normal in.

So I would think that when you said build a tent - sectioning off a part of a room, even with just bubble wrap, should emulate a tent environment and even with an opening should be more liekly to have the desired effect as actually being outside with a draught pulling the co away from the tent. Indoors, there is less draught so surely it should eb more successful.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

Without knowing the volume it's hard to say. I would always double the minimum amount and spread on 2 BBQs depending on the amount needed.

You mention tents. I have thought of using a tent inside the flat. it's easier to fill it with CO than a whole room.

CO itself is a little bit lighter than air, that means lying on the floor is the worst position. People have failed their attempts laying in their bathtubs. There are threads here wehre people report this.

Yeah, I read that carbon monoxide rises, so it definitely makes sense to lie down on some elevated structure inside a tent or home made booth made out of thick polythene for example. Maybe a camp bed or something similar.

 

[Meditation guide]

Most have used briquettes, I see no reason not to, it's all carbon.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

This is the thing, with a lot of methods I can't get my head around how some succeed and some don't.

I mean some of the tents people appear to die in from this method look bigger than my bedroom - and the ventilation seems better. I;ve got 2 barbecues and my new build house has no draughts.

When I was younger I had a headache and sickness for 3 days which I think was caused by my gas supply running out causing the fire to extinguish a bit while I slept before the gas had stopped flowing. Even though I was in one room (called a 'bedsit' in the UK), it was huge in comparison to my bedroom now. I suppose the question there was did the gas run out too soon, or was there simply not enough concentration built up.

I'm not scared of suffering brain damage eitehr, at least tehre would be a reason for me being a bumbling idiot. I see the thought of walking aroudn with a headache for a few days, much worse, and I've got appointments to go to and act normal in.

So I would think that when you said build a tent - sectioning off a part of a room, even with just bubble wrap, should emulate a tent environment and even with an opening should be more liekly to have the desired effect as actually being outside with a draught pulling the co away from the tent. Indoors, there is less draught so surely it should eb more successful.

Yeah, I think making a booth inside my room will be ok.
Praestat mori made an important point that some people have failed because they were lying on the floor and failed because carbon monoxide rises.

 

[Meditation guide]

This is the thing, with a lot of methods I can't get my head around how some succeed and some don't.

I mean some of the tents people appear to die in from this method look bigger than my bedroom - and the ventilation seems better. I;ve got 2 barbecues and my new build house has no draughts.

When I was younger I had a headache and sickness for 3 days which I think was caused by my gas supply running out causing the fire to extinguish a bit while I slept before the gas had stopped flowing. Even though I was in one room (called a 'bedsit' in the UK), it was huge in comparison to my bedroom now. I suppose the question there was did the gas run out too soon, or was there simply not enough concentration built up.

I'm not scared of suffering brain damage eitehr, at least tehre would be a reason for me being a bumbling idiot. I see the thought of walking aroudn with a headache for a few days, much worse, and I've got appointments to go to and act normal in.

So I would think that when you said build a tent - sectioning off a part of a room, even with just bubble wrap, should emulate a tent environment and even with an opening should be more liekly to have the desired effect as actually being outside with a draught pulling the co away from the tent. Indoors, there is less draught so surely it should eb more successful.

I don't think a tent is necessary and they probably don't hold in gas well, just my uneducated opinion. I think people use them when they have no place else.

This is the thing, with a lot of methods I can't get my head around how some succeed and some don't.

I mean some of the tents people appear to die in from this method look bigger than my bedroom - and the ventilation seems better. I;ve got 2 barbecues and my new build house has no draughts.

When I was younger I had a headache and sickness for 3 days which I think was caused by my gas supply running out causing the fire to extinguish a bit while I slept before the gas had stopped flowing. Even though I was in one room (called a 'bedsit' in the UK), it was huge in comparison to my bedroom now. I suppose the question there was did the gas run out too soon, or was there simply not enough concentration built up.

I'm not scared of suffering brain damage eitehr, at least tehre would be a reason for me being a bumbling idiot. I see the thought of walking aroudn with a headache for a few days, much worse, and I've got appointments to go to and act normal in.

So I would think that when you said build a tent - sectioning off a part of a room, even with just bubble wrap, should emulate a tent environment and even with an opening should be more liekly to have the desired effect as actually being outside with a draught pulling the co away from the tent. Indoors, there is less draught so surely it should eb more successful.

I'm of the opinion that not all reports on the site where people say they failed are legitimate.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

I don't think a tent is necessary and they probably don't hold in gas well, just my uneducated opinion. I think people use them when they have no place else.

Yeah camping tents have too many places for gas to escape, even if you try and seal them with gorilla tape.

Most have used briquettes, I see no reason not to, it's all carbon.

True.

 

[Meditation guide]

Father warns of dangers of disposable barbeques after son's accidental death

A grieving father yesterday warned of the dangers of disposable barbecues after his 22-year-old son accidentally gassed himself to death with one of the devices in his camper van.

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

Father warns of dangers of disposable barbeques after son's accidental death

A grieving father yesterday warned of the dangers of disposable barbecues after his 22-year-old son accidentally gassed himself to death with one of the devices in his camper van.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Its tragic for the poor guy , but it just goes to show how effective this method can be.

 

[Meditation guide]

I just found an article about two people, m and f, who met on this site and used a grill in a bedroom.
There was a photo of their bodies lying together on the floor next to a used grill. It had no other information, except that the woman had schizophrenia, and the man had suffered a breakup with his gf.

I wonder why they were lying on the floor, there was a bed in the room. It looked to me like the man had been blocking the door and the woman possibly was headed for the door but that's just a guess because he was lying across and in front of the door and she was against him on the floor.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

I just found an article about two people, m and f, who met on this site and used a grill in a bedroom.
There was a photo of their bodies lying together on the floor next to a used grill. It had no other information, except that the woman had schizophrenia, and the man had suffered a breakup with his gf.

I wonder why they were lying on the floor, there was a bed in the room. It looked to me like the man had been blocking the door and the woman possibly was headed for the door but that's just a guess because he was lying across and in front of the door and she was against him on the floor.

Ooh that sounds a bit weird huh ?
Did he kill her in a murder - suicide ?
Or did they change their minds and try and open the door but passed out before he could open it ?

 

[Meditation guide]

Ooh that sounds a bit weird huh ?
Did he kill her in a murder - suicide ?
Or did they change their minds and try and open the door but passed out before he could open it ?

No they both died from CO. I was just wondering why he was lying in front of the door and she was against him on the floor. How or why would they even be on the floor with a bed in the room. Something happened, she may have tried to get out and he blocked it. I wish I had someone like him, because I would probably panic and head out too at some point. Her hand was in a clawing position against him. It was in a claw shape like she had been trying to scratch at him. I'll post a link if I can find it again.