hey guys. How long would It take to die using the charcoal grill method? I'm terrified of being found before I'm dead
Lena, i can only tell you what i have learned about this, you will find many similar ideas if you go through the forums i expect. The poster bbq1 has some coherent ideas also.
You need to choose a space that is easily sealed and small, it might be a tent, a car or a bathroom. But inside a house is complex because of the possible effect on people living nearby. The charcoal needs to be burned ideally in a special burner, a cannister with a handle and holes, which will hold about a kilo of coals and burn them evenly. Something like this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMOS-Barbe...559&sr=8-7&keywords=electric+charcoal+lighter
My choice would be a car with the joints between the doors and tailgate taped up, apart from the one you intend to get into.
Place some fairly benign lighters, like impregnated wood fibre and not fluid in the bottom, light them and fill the thing with coals. Real charcoal or briquettes doesn't seem to matter too much. Let it burn until the top coals are grey, the thing will still be very hot. Let the heat diminish until it is viable to place in your chosen location without heating up the place too much, it's better if the ambient temperature is cool. Put the coals in a steel bucket on top of a pan of water, to prevent the burning of the floor. Coals will emit CO for up to 10 hours once the smoke has gone and you are left with smouldering coals. Tape a note to the window of the car or tent saying to call the emergency services.
Take plenty of sleep aids and benzos and some vodka to knock you out for 12 hours. People do die from CO poisoning after a few glasses of wine on camping trips after putting some shitty little bbq in their tent to keep warm but some dont and seem to wake up feeling rather horrible to say the least. Get into the location and put on some nice music closing the vent/door behind you.
I have practised with this method but not yet put it to practice for real. It's just what i have gleaned from experience and reading other posts in here. But you asked the question and i have done my best to answer. If you have the opportunity, i recommend getting away from the place you are now and going travelling and see what happens, if that's possible for you.
It seems complex and so you would need to do some trial runs. It's at this point when you discover whether you are actually very serious about the whole thing.
You need to choose a space that is easily sealed and small, it might be a tent, a car or a bathroom. But inside a house is complex because of the possible effect on people living nearby. The charcoal needs to be burned ideally in a special burner, a cannister with a handle and holes, which will hold about a kilo of coals and burn them evenly. Something like this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMOS-Barbe...559&sr=8-7&keywords=electric+charcoal+lighter
My choice would be a car with the joints between the doors and tailgate taped up, apart from the one you intend to get into.
Place some fairly benign lighters, like impregnated wood fibre and not fluid in the bottom, light them and fill the thing with coals. Real charcoal or briquettes doesn't seem to matter too much. Let it burn until the top coals are grey, the thing will still be very hot. Let the heat diminish until it is viable to place in your chosen location without heating up the place too much, it's better if the ambient temperature is cool. Put the coals in a steel bucket on top of a pan of water, to prevent the burning of the floor. Coals will emit CO for up to 10 hours once the smoke has gone and you are left with smouldering coals. Tape a note to the window of the car or tent saying to call the emergency services.
Take plenty of sleep aids and benzos and some vodka to knock you out for 12 hours. People do die from CO poisoning after a few glasses of wine on camping trips after putting some shitty little bbq in their tent to keep warm but some dont and seem to wake up feeling rather horrible to say the least. Get into the location and put on some nice music closing the vent/door behind you.
I have practised with this method but not yet put it to practice for real. It's just what i have gleaned from experience and reading other posts in here. But you asked the question and i have done my best to answer. If you have the opportunity, i recommend getting away from the place you are now and going travelling and see what happens, if that's possible for you.
It seems complex and so you would need to do some trial runs. It's at this point when you discover whether you are actually very serious about the whole thing.
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Thank you for all the
Thank you for all the info.. really.. so this is how you plan to go out?
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Dumping out the chimney into a small one like this is good.
https://m.clasohlson.com/uk/Bucket-...MIh_3G577Z3QIV5TXTCh0_lQohEAQYASABEgIJvPD_BwE
https://m.clasohlson.com/uk/Bucket-...MIh_3G577Z3QIV5TXTCh0_lQohEAQYASABEgIJvPD_BwE
Apparently so from what i have found. It's what seems to be suggested, a steel bucket. But you can try both depending on your system. A kilo of coals seems to be the required amount for a car/small tent. I think the principle with the bucket is that it can be placed in a tray of water to dissipate the heat, whereas a conventional bbq, usually with legs attached, can't. Are you really in such a bad place right now or is this just for future reference? Yes, this is how i plan to go.
bbq1
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Here's what it looks like.
Note they don't use a chimney starter so have major trouble getting the charcoal lit well.
Note they don't use a chimney starter so have major trouble getting the charcoal lit well.
i like the look of that assuming you use a chimney first. I wonder about the idea of putting some kind of heat resistant plaque under the bucket, and a loose lid over the top to dissipate the heat that allows the CO to escape. Overthinking, i know! This shit can be a fine art.
bbq1
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I've got one but I've taken the legs off. This lets it sit flat into a tray of 2 inches of water. The outer bucket doesn't get tooooo hot anyway so its just a precuation.
Yes the grill ontop I shall be placing a disc of tin foil in the center to stop the central heat rise and also to deprive the coals of some air. I guess about 50% of the grill will then be foiled over.
Yes the grill ontop I shall be placing a disc of tin foil in the center to stop the central heat rise and also to deprive the coals of some air. I guess about 50% of the grill will then be foiled over.
How about you... are you going soon? If you are are you crazy enough to just allow to me drive to you and share you're charcoal... sorry if this is too forward or inappropriate in the this thread...
When are you going? Soon? Would you be willing to let me drive to you and share your coals? I'd be willing to buy supplies we need... Or anything.. sorry if this is super crazy don't worry about telling me no..
Right now isn't good. You need to get to a point where you're confident as can be. Just haphazardly going into it, it's not good. The whole point of experimenting is to see if you're really ready and that you maximize your chances of bringing it off. You need space,privacy and time to go about this, i don't know if you have it.
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I know I'd have to collect the appropriate supplies.. I know... how much time do you think? That's the biggest issue. I'd need to find a place to park my car. I could do it outside my apartment but all I would have is about a 7 hour window while the person I'm living with sleeps
bbq1
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I'm not far from London England where The Queen and Megan Markle live. So I don't think your car is gonna make it here.
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You're a long way from france, too far. This is my final way out and i have put a lot of thought into it, but my time isn't quite yet anyway. There are lots of americans on this forum who might help you though. I wish you well and feel free to contact me again if you wish.
bbq1
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Yes, once you post about 30 times and have been here about 2 weeks then you can send and recieve PM's, so that's something to look forward too.
Shit. I just want to freaking die and I'm looking for a partner. I wouldn't have joined this site if I could wait two weeks. I wouldn't want to die if life was even a little bearable :(
Thank you for the info...
You're more likely to find someone in the 'partners' section of the sanctioned suicide thread, lena, who lives in your vicinity. There are many in the united states who use this place. I wish you well.
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Here is a pretty good play by play of how it should go.
Performing a dry run or two is probably a good idea so as to know what to expect.
As I prefer a gradual sort of fade-out, as opposed to an abrupt cut
type of deal, my method has evolved to a combination of
sedative/narcotic drugs coupled with the Weber Charcoal Grill -- $30.
The grill stands 12 inches from the ground on three not very sturdy
legs. It is 14" wide, about 8 or 9" deep and will hold roughly
10-11lbs of briquets.
Because I'm a just as retarded mechanically as I am technologically,
it
never occured to me to think about how I was to get the grill into the
house once it was burning hot. Think about this please BEFORE you
start the fire. If you choose the Weber Grill just be aware it has no
handles. It must not be picked up by the sides of the grill, even
with
heavy duty potholders, nor must you attempt to lift it by the legs.
You must assemble it and the screw/nut combination which holds those
spindly legs to the grill is simply not trustworthy enough to risk
having the grill spill white hot charcoal on you.
I can't emphasize this enough: Do not attempt to carry a grill filled
with white hot coals. Drag or slide it -- carefully. Try not to lean
over it to haul it for it will burn like hell your face. This thing
is
throwing off some serious heat.
Then you have to decide what the grill will be placed upon in your
house. Obviously, you don't want the heat from the grill to damage
your floors or spark fires. Place it on a square metal/aluminum
sheet,
like the kind of pan in the bottom of your oven They may be purchased
at the grocery store. Make sure to get one which easily encompasses
the entire circumferance (sp?) of the grill.
Okay, now we're getting down to it. Outside, place the metal pan on a
sturdy piece of cardboard, then the cold grill on the pan. You'll
need
the cardboard for sliding the hot grill into your house, so make sure
it's cut proportionate to the doorways and long enough so as to
prevent
getting too close to the heat. If you're truly motivated, affix some
type of hauling rope to the cardboard. You'll also need to figure out
a way to keep the grill from sliding off the cardboard while pulling
it.
That's later though. Now we're still outside.
Dump, shake and settle as much self-starting charcoal as possible into
the grill, roughly 10-11lbs. Don't be afraid to pile it on as it will
cook down. The briquets will light immediately without paper, wood or
lighter fluid. Depending on this and that, count on at least 1 1/2
hours for that much charcoal to ignite and burn to non-smoking ashy
grey. It's not ready if it's still flaming and/or smoking.
If your grill is brand new as mine was, season it prior to using it
for
your suicide. Trust me on this one thing: You don't want the grill
burning off toxic paint and/or industrial oil fumes in your house. If
it's brand new, burn the hell out of it at least once. Also, never
dump charcoal directly into the bottom of the grill because it will
get
too hot and the fire needs the oxygen. Use the charcoal catcher
please.
I discovered while doing the test run that timing is very important
while utilizing a combo method, particularly one which includes drugs.
The reason being you want to be well on your way toward hammertime
before you bring the grill into the house, but not so impaired that
you'll mess up something or pass out before getting the grill into the
house.
Now that our fire is started, let's talk about drugs. Have the drugs
prepared prior to starting the fire because it takes some time to get
them set up. This, of course, depends upon using a significant
quantity of pills.
NEVER grind your pills in the coffee grinder. I know, only a stupid
asshole would to that, right? Call me crazy, because that's exactly
what I did. And guess what? No matter how well you clean that
grinder, theres always some coffee flakes which, when resurrected from
the sludge hiding somewhere in the grinder, will mix with your drugs
so
now you have cafe' au fucked up drugs. Not good. Also, you lose some
of the stuff which disappears somewhere never to return. Probably
goes where the coffee crap is hiding.
Since most of you wouldn't be injecting drugs, but rather injesting
them orally with an anti-emetic, ( this usually a prescription drug to keep you from vomiting. Don't over look this if you are using this combo method.). I won't go into all the details of
cc's and syringes. Just know that pills, even those with hard
coating,
dissolve well in warm water. Use as little water as possible to
render
the drugs aqueous or mixable with whatever pudding or cereal you'll
mix
them with.
Now here's what happened: I got the drugs prepared and the syringes
neatly layed aside in my room. The grill is burning like mad outside.
Now I'm feeling pressure, time pressure, because all of a sudden I
started remembering all the stuff I forgot to do.
Preparing the room. Very, very important. Anything like draperies,
cloths you use to cover furniture, clothes, shoes and garbage on your
floor (basically anything flammable) must be removed from within five
feet from where the grill will be. I'd even be careful not to place
the grill too close to any furniture.
Now is also a good time to set up the music to die for, or your webcam
if you're so inclined. I'm so inclined, but lack enough ambition to
even attempt to learn something new. Mental note to self: Don't
forget to transfer the title of the car.
I've decided that I need not tape around the windows as the room needs
some oxygen and venting. If the doors also close well I'll just tape
lightly with masking tape around the crack. I will place pillows on
the floor to seal the door bottom.
Notes? All written? One was needed for my door which said, "DANGER.
POISON GAS (CO). Do not open door. Call 911" Another was to law
enforcement and the Medical Examiner stating my death was a suicide,
revealed the details of said suicide, and specifically requesting no
autopsy. Mental note to self: Re-write the note to my most
important
friend.
I found it surprising how enjoyably I bustled about getting everything
tidied in my room and readied. It's really a very energetic exercise.
My overall feelings during the entire preparations were simple calm
determination. My clarity astounded me as I methodically worked my
way
step-by-step through the process. No panic--no fear. And all the
time
I was bustling, I was puffing here and there on the "MM" to see how
hammered I would be by the time the coals were ready. Mental note to
self: clean gummy pipe.
It took approximately an hour and forty minutes for both the coals to
burn down and for my drugs (250mg Ultram, crushed and swallowed in
juice) to kick in properly. And I hadn't even started the IM
injections. I could tell I'd have to start those about 30 minutes
before the coals were burned down.
Now how long will the charcoal burn? Outside it is still throwing off
heat and will ignite twigs six hours after first lighting it. You
want a grill that can sustain itself independently for at least 3-4
hours after it's burned down to ready. I had no way to test how much
(CO) was actually emitted, so have to either trust what I have is
enough, or just to be on the safe side I may use some more charcoal
for
a smaller type set-up as well.
I hope this helps . It was from a lady named Kathy . She went into this whole cardboard section for getting the hot grill into the house and maybe you need this if you cannot figure out a different way to get it into the house butone thing is for sure. You do NOT want white hot coals in your face for a long distance. So plan out either her cardboard way or think of your own just don't forget this part. The dry run is essential. Best of luck to you and I'll see you on the other side.
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This photo, particularly in this context, is hilarious to me. I'm not aware of a button I can click to indicate how humorous I find it, so I'm writing it here.
I'm anxious to go as well. I made the decision years ago. I'm caring for my dying father though. He's in the end stages, but I doubt it will be within two weeks. I sympathize as nearly every moment feels unbearable for me as well. I'm just trying hold on long enough to let him pass before me. He lives at home with my Mom and I and we are his 24/7 caregivers. I have five siblings who don't do shit, and aren't shit. I hope they rot in hell-if there is one. Anyway, just wanted to let you know.
All excellent information. I would add my two problems when I thought I finally had this method down to a successful completion. I underestimated my tolerance for benzos and opiods--the drug cocktail I combined with vodka which was ineffective at knocking me out enough to override the instinctual need for air. I couldn't resist the instinct to get out of the bathroom I was sealed up in order to get to some air I could breath. Suicide can be a lot harder than it looks. It seems the more I learn the less I know. :-/
Interesting post, but many have advised against using this method inside a building inhabited by other people, i'm not sure if this was the case.
Sleeping pills need to be ground up by hand with a spoon in a bowl i believe, and mixed with a little jam or similar. It also seems that a glass or two of vodka will maximize the toxicity of the drugs.
Sleeping pills need to be ground up by hand with a spoon in a bowl i believe, and mixed with a little jam or similar. It also seems that a glass or two of vodka will maximize the toxicity of the drugs.
