Resource Case Reports Of Sodium Nitrite - Megathread

[Walilamdzi]

I thought it would be good to have a thread with any reports with interesting info about this method. Please post anything you think is relevant.

I'm reading this one at the moment, about a 17 year old who ingested 1g of SN in a tablet:

http://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/29c9/49e13892148ada4e80e9c21ec0f3c3dd09fc.pdf

 

[GeorgeJL]

You should rename the title to Case Reports Of Sodium Nitrite - Megathread

EDIT: Even better

Studies And Case Reports Of Sodium Nitrite - Megathread

 

[Jayxtri]

Case reports are mostly accidental ingestion which are mostly of low doses. Since it causes Methemoglobinemia (acquired), This video has some technical info in detail

 

[throwaway777]

despite vomiting, he died anyways

An Autopsy Case of Fatal Methemoglobinemia due to Ingestion of Sodium Nitrite

We herein present an autopsy case of fatal methemoglobinemia due to suicidal ingestion of sodium nitrite. A man in his 30s who had exhibited mild depression was found dead in his h..

www.omicsonline.org

 

[Jayxtri]

Turns out vomiting doesn't necessarily decreases the effect of SN. The vomiting is caused by lack of oxygen in body.Vomiting may or may not be seen in cases. The same is the case with CO poisoning

This has almost every details.......

https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+757

 

[throwaway777]

A 23-year-old female presented to the emergency department (ED) after intentionally ingesting an unspecified amount of sodium nitrate purchased from an online distributor. As per emergency medical services (EMS), the patient sent a text message on her phone detailing the ingestion roughly 30 minutes prior to EMS arrival at the scene. She presented by ambulance to the hospital profoundly cyanotic and unresponsive. (...)

The patient's initial methemoglobin (MetHb) level on venous blood gas (VBG) analysis was 92.7% . (...)

The following morning, which was 12 hrs post-ingestion, the patient's final MetHb level returned as less than 1%.

it's not written if she had some lasting damage ... what do u all think?

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/24734306.2018.1467532#

 

[drakewantstogo]

A 23-year-old female presented to the emergency department (ED) after intentionally ingesting an unspecified amount of sodium nitrate purchased from an online distributor. As per emergency medical services (EMS), the patient sent a text message on her phone detailing the ingestion roughly 30 minutes prior to EMS arrival at the scene. She presented by ambulance to the hospital profoundly cyanotic and unresponsive. (...)

The patient's initial methemoglobin (MetHb) level on venous blood gas (VBG) analysis was 92.7% . (...)

The following morning, which was 12 hrs post-ingestion, the patient's final MetHb level returned as less than 1%.

it's not written if she had some lasting damage ... what do u all think?

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/24734306.2018.1467532#

so, she took it and instantly called ER? damn

 

[Longman]

sodium nitrate

But it is not nitrite.

 

[throwaway777]

But it is not nitrite.

true im sorry
should i delete it

 

[Your Own Ghost]

I've read quite a few articles about this now and I'm not sure if the different publications always understand there's a distinction between nitrate and nitrite. It could be an innocent mistake or even a clever way to prevent repeat acts, but if there's talk of sky high Methemoglobinemia levels they likely mean nitrite.

 

[Psilo]

Thanks for sharing, a very necessary thread!! I don't wanna mess something up when its time.

 

[Salvacion]

I thought it would be good to have a thread with any reports with interesting info about this method. Please post anything you think is relevant.

I'm reading this one at the moment, about a 17 year old who ingested 1g of SN in a tablet:

http://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/29c9/49e13892148ada4e80e9c21ec0f3c3dd09fc.pdf

This is exactly what I wanted to start today. Thank you. Reading all the autopsy reports truly confused me as accidental appeared to be so prevalent

 

[Walilamdzi]

@Salvacion I was reading something before which stated that someone accidentally ingested 75g of SN, or something. Leaves me wondering... how, exactly? People say it's really hard to drink and tastes very salty. Strange!

@throwaway777 It sounds like they're describing nitrite even though they wrote nitrate, so like @Your Own Ghost said, maybe they just made a mistake. It's a bit strange considering they describe things like it's a food preservative and that they used methyl blue, things that apply to nitrite. Hmm.

 

[Salvacion]

@Salvacion I was reading something before which stated that someone accidentally ingested 75g of SN, or something. Leaves me wondering... how, exactly? People say it's really hard to drink and tastes very salty. Strange!

@throwaway777 It sounds like they're describing nitrite even though they wrote nitrate, so like @Your Own Ghost said, maybe they just made a mistake. It's a bit strange considering they describe things like it's a food preservative and that they used methyl blue, things that apply to nitrite. Hmm.

Thank you again for adding all of the case studies. It really makes you wonder what the truth of this salute and its lethality.

 

[Walilamdzi]

This report also says nitrate accidentally, although it is clearly about nitrite... http://www.finalexit.org/ergo_nutech_new_technology.html

 

[venom.52]

I've just read one which is in bad light https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...WMAZ6BAgAEAE&usg=AOvVaw3e0EO5w8_TfKWf0idvlw-G (PDF Download) and now this is freaking me out.

 

[Walilamdzi]

@venom.52 It's odd that he survived if he was found after a whole 24 hours, given that it was intentional. Acute kidney injury is hardy good, given that people had been saying there were no long lasting consequences if this didn't work. I need more info. Thanks for the report.

Only the abstract is available for this report, but here's another one.

A Case of Severe Methemoglobinemia with Shock and High Saturation Gap Following Suicidal Ingestion of Sodium Nitrite-Saved by Oral Methylene Blue | Raj | Toxicology International

 

[venom.52]

@venom.52 It's odd that he survived if he was found after a whole 24 hours, given that it was intentional. Acute kidney injury is hardy good, given that people had been saying there were no long lasting consequences if this didn't work. I need more info. Thanks for the report.

Yeah exactly, i agree with you, the fact that he was like that for 24hours shocks me, i think he took a very small dose because it says somewhere his mhbg was 2% , whereas according to ppeh 20g should ideally cause above 70% .. And also its creepy that its mentioned the guy looked up euthanasia sites and still screwed up.

 

[Walilamdzi]

@venom.52 Ah, thanks for your comment on the mhbg, I hadn't realised that.

A lot of the literature is mentioning dyspnea as a symptom of SN toxicity, which sounds quite unpleasant to me as I've experienced it, or similar during panic attacks. The feeling of not being able to get enough air isn't fun.

 

[Zamolxes]

i just ordered the stuff very happy knowing soon enough ill have what i need to have peacefull exit out of this there was another thread about someone who did it today actually very encouraged by the whole thing he was found because he didnt plan but anyways seems like a nice easy death i mean some nausea and a hedache are totally fine by me

 

[Cookiedough8956]

i just ordered the stuff very happy knowing soon enough ill have what i need to have peacefull exit out of this there was another thread about someone who did it today actually very encouraged by the whole thing he was found because he didnt plan but anyways seems like a nice easy death i mean some nausea and a hedache are totally fine by me

Someone did it today? Who :(?

 

[Longman]

And also its creepy that its mentioned the guy looked up euthanasia sites and still screwed up.

It is said this guy was a schizophrenic and he was treated with ECT (which can also be a cause of his cognitive impairment, as said)

On day 17 the patient was unable to retain warfarin counselling information on sequential days. A Montreal Cognitive Assessment (MoCA) was performed, scoring 13/30, with poor executive, visuospatial and verbal fluency. It was unclear if this was premorbid, but it was felt past history of ECT could have contributed.

 

[venom.52]

@venom.52 Ah, thanks for your comment on the mhbg, I hadn't realised that.

A lot of the literature is mentioning dyspnea as a symptom of SN toxicity, which sounds quite unpleasant to me as I've experienced it, or similar during panic attacks. The feeling of not being able to get enough air isn't fun.

I think the build up of C02 is what causes panic rather than the lack of 02. So I'm assuming you become dizzy and pass out.However, the literature available on SN is absurd and inconsistent. Some reports say a person took as little as a gram and passed away,some reports say even with a large quantity somehow the guy survives. The reports interchange the words nitrate and nitrite although it might be a clever manipulation like someone pointed out. All in all,i just hope this method is peaceful as philip claims.

 

[Jen Erik]

And also its creepy that its mentioned the guy looked up euthanasia sites and still screwed up.

Have you seen the failures on here with SN? Nearly all of those who failed admitted to not following the directions.

Edited for clarity

 

[venom.52]

Have you seen the number of failures on here with SN? Nearly all of them have been due to not following the directions.

I know, my point was the public news of declaring him looking up euthanasia sites and failing was creepy. I misphrased

 

[Zamolxes]

Someone did it today? Who :(?

[Method] Does SN poisoning make you gasp for air?
there is the story failed attemp so alot of insight into whats going on before u know :) aparently he was euphoric sliping in and out of conciusness i do alot of meditation so for me that is quite a treat to have as an exit rather than who knows hanging or some unorthodx suicide method where i die and leave a complete mess behing dont wanna cause ptstd to the person finding me LOL

[Method] Does SN poisoning make you gasp for air?
there is the story failed attemp so alot of insight into whats going on before u know :) aparently he was euphoric sliping in and out of conciusness i do alot of meditation so for me that is quite a treat to have as an exit rather than who knows hanging or some unorthodx suicide method where i die and leave a complete mess behing dont wanna cause ptstd to the person finding me LOL

sry for large text dont know how to use this

 

[divaangel]

Several sources mention tachypnea (fast breathing rate) as one of the effects of SN. I would guess this is the body trying to breathe faster to get more oxygen as its depleted. Dyspnea generally refers to difficulty breathing that is associated with asthma and to a lesser extent with panic attacks and PTSD.

 

[Walilamdzi]

Quote from Philip Nitschke's twitter: "|Nitrite is a better euthanasia powder than azide (score of 68 v. 76 on Exit RP scale @PeacefulPill ), although it is reversible, and CLW have decided on irreversible azide. But both are v. poor substitutes for pentobarbital/ Nembutal"

I didn't know he'd referred to it as a very poor substitute. Again, doesn't sound great...

 

[NextSummer]

Nitschke in the last workshop (6th April 2019) says in the 6 cases he observed, no headache was mentionned - in opposition to what is being claimed

 

[JustOverIt]

Nitschke in the last workshop (6th April 2019) says in the 6 cases he observed, no headache was mentionned - in opposition to what is being claimed

Its good that we are peer reviewing each other. It helps weed out the validity of the SN method.