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This is not the reason why I am on SS. (It is bipolar and other issues. And my recovery attempt failed but this fits more in this section.) I show a lot of signs of this syndrome. I went to a doctor last week soon I will have to go to a specialist. I think this syndrome has the potential deteriorate my life quality way more. I am really scared but for example one of my finger is numb currently so I believe that I have this syndrome.
I won't be able to play a lot of video games, write on my phone or at PC. So the hobbies which helped to distract me (to cope) might be impossible. This will affect me a lot. I am so desperate my life is already a tragedy. I do not know what I can do without my hands. Maybe reading. (I do not read so much- maybe I will spend more time in this forum. But hours of sanctioned suicide makes me depressed tbh.

But my point is has anyone of you experience with this syndrome how bad is it really?
 
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Finger (as well as hand or foot) numbness may not be related to repetitive motion injury like carpel tunnel (wrist related)

It is not unusual to experience a numbness that can last months and then suddenly disappear.

You might want to experiment with switching left and right had functions (like mouse usage) to see if the results in any changes.
 
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Finger (as well as hand or foot) numbness may not be related to repetitive motion injury like carpel tunnel (wrist related)

It is not unusual to experience a numbness that can last months and then suddenly disappear.

You might want to experiment with switching left and right had functions (like mouse usage) to see if the results in any changes.
Thanks for your reply. I get a splint from my doctor. I am kind of scared if I have to take medication for this syndrome. You get hunger and sleep disorder from it. And I have both way enough
 
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I found that wearing a wrist brace to sleep dramatically improved my carpal tunnel. It turns out I was tossing and turning in my sleep and accidentally crushing the nerves in my hand every night. YMMV, but after using the brace and being more careful in general about using my hand while it was healing, mine rarely gets bad enough to bother me anymore.
 
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1) Download AHK from https://www.autohotkey.com/

Here is an example script you can compile that will swap the mouse buttons to the keyboard so you don't need to click mouse buttons any more.
"#NoEnv
SendMode Input
SetWorkingDir %A_ScriptDir%

`::LButton
$LCTRL::RButton
RCTRL::LCTRL
\::Space

!1::Suspend

You may find using the keyboard instead of the mouse relieves some of the pressure you put on your fingers daily, it may help with the pain.


2) Order some glucosamine & chondrotin pills. Try to get ones that are easy to swallow so taking them everyday isn't a hassle, like the ones from nutra vita. Try taking them for two weeks, see if the pain gets better. Even if its just a placebo effect it's better than nothing.


3) Order a heavy punching bag. As weird as it sounds, this practically cured my symptoms where the other methods mask or reduce the pain. You just have to be careful with punching bags since there's always a risk of injuring your hands and breaking bones, that's why they expect you to wrap up your hands correctly and use boxing gloves when using them but the choice is yours. I have to keep up with using the bag or I start to feel pain again.


None of the above may work because our hands are different but its worth a shot. I ordered them in the simplest and easiest to acquire order so if you want to, you can try straight away with the first method since it's just a download.
 
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This is not the reason why I am on SS. (It is bipolar and other issues. And my recovery attempt failed but this fits more in this section.) I show a lot of signs of this syndrome. I went to a doctor last week soon I will have to go to a specialist. I think this syndrome has the potential deteriorate my life quality way more. I am really scared but for example one of my finger is numb currently so I believe that I have this syndrome.
I won't be able to play a lot of video games, write on my phone or at PC. So the hobbies which helped to distract me (to cope) might be impossible. This will affect me a lot. I am so desperate my life is already a tragedy. I do not know what I can do without my hands. Maybe reading. (I do not read so much- maybe I will spend more time in this forum. But hours of sanctioned suicide makes me depressed tbh.

But my point is has anyone of you experience with this syndrome how bad is it really?
Crapal tunnel is an easily solvable problem, even bad cases, please avoid surgery unless there is no alternative. Wearing the braces over your wrists with the metal bars in them at night when you sleep, even for a few nights, will cure ths symptoms for many people, For sever cases wearing them as many hours a day as possible makes a big difference, but for most people weariung them overnight a couple nights a week, or a few hours several times a week during the dauy, will be all you need to do.
 
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I knew a professional artist that literally drew 12 hours every single day for 10 years (they had asperger if you wonder how anyone could draw so much). Wrist problems are really common with artists, but she said that once she started lifting weights her problems disappeared.

Learn to move your arm not your hand. It's really hard and I still can't do it well despite practicing, but I've heard lots of people say that it really helps with wrist problems.

I also sometimes use the mouse with my left hand and let my right hand take a free, very short vacation.

Now that I think about it. There was a doctor who said that most neck problems come from weak neck muscles. I should go and train more.
 
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First off if you have any questions after reading this or later on feel free to ask. I don't know everything, but I think I could help you a lot. Also, don't skip over the paragraph in the middle that I wrote if you are going to use the physical therapy in the first link I give you, because the link leaves out important information that I give you and in the video it can be easy to misinterpret how to do one of the physical therapy exercises he does. Also, I've watched lectures on this and while it seems counter intuitive, resting your hands is not the way to help yourself. Your hands will only become weaker and even if you rest them for a year like I did you'll likely still get pain after enough activity. Physical therapy is the way to go.
I've been using the exercises from this video
to help my condition. Start with low weights and keep increasing the weights over time until you get to 25 pounds for the normal wrist curls, I personally do 15 for the reverse wrist curls and the third exercise the guy in the video mentions. I've recently learned that I've been doing them wrong so my wrists haven't gotten the full benefit of them yet but I've corrected how I'm doing them in the past few days and I've started seeing improvements already. I'll try to go as in depth as I can to help you because it's important and it's more complicated than the video presents it as.
Your range of motion when doing the exercise shouldn't be more than your wrist in it's natural position when you sit on something, lay your arm flat on your leg and have your hand extended a bit out over your knee, and let your hand hang limply. Do that with your hand facing up and down, that's how much you'll move your hands during the exercises. So for normal wrist curls, hold a weight, sit down, put your hand facing the way he does in the video for the first exercise and lower your hand slowly until it reaches the position it did when you let it hang off in front of your knee before, then raise it back up to a neutral position. For reverse wrist curls have your hand hang of in front of your knee again, facing the way the guy has it in the 2nd exercise and lower it, I think you get the picture.
Also as a side note I used to do the exercise in this thread
, farmers walks, I did this
and it completely got rid of my issue for a couple months. However the issue came back eventually, I recently I've learned it might've been because I was doing the exercise for too long when realistically you should only be doing it for a couple minutes at most 3 times a day and I did more than that. Doing as many reps as possible of these exercises or doing them for as long as possible, even if they're not hurting you, isn't going to help you either, I've tried that, a lot.
I've seen people say many different things on how long it takes to recover by doing these exercises, some say they recover in 4 weeks, some in 6 months to a year. There also other things I could point you towards trying but I think the things in the 2 links I gave you are best trying first. I was told by someone that for the first link's exercises once you get to the heaviest weights you should only be doing 8-12 reps, I was told this by someone who's done way more research than I have and who's also helped me a lot. I don't know however if it's best to do these exercises every day or every other day, I'm seeing a bit more improvements doing them every day so far, I'll keep you posted if something significant happens.
 
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First off if you have any questions after reading this or later on feel free to ask. I don't know everything, but I think I could help you a lot. Also, don't skip over the paragraph in the middle that I wrote if you are going to use the physical therapy in the first link I give you, because the link leaves out important information that I give you and in the video it can be easy to misinterpret how to do one of the physical therapy exercises he does. Also, I've watched lectures on this and while it seems counter intuitive, resting your hands is not the way to help yourself. Your hands will only become weaker and even if you rest them for a year like I did you'll likely still get pain after enough activity. Physical therapy is the way to go.
I've been using the exercises from this video
to help my condition. Start with low weights and keep increasing the weights over time until you get to 25 pounds for the normal wrist curls, I personally do 15 for the reverse wrist curls and the third exercise the guy in the video mentions. I've recently learned that I've been doing them wrong so my wrists haven't gotten the full benefit of them yet but I've corrected how I'm doing them in the past few days and I've started seeing improvements already. I'll try to go as in depth as I can to help you because it's important and it's more complicated than the video presents it as.
Your range of motion when doing the exercise shouldn't be more than your wrist in it's natural position when you sit on something, lay your arm flat on your leg and have your hand extended a bit out over your knee, and let your hand hang limply. Do that with your hand facing up and down, that's how much you'll move your hands during the exercises. So for normal wrist curls, hold a weight, sit down, put your hand facing the way he does in the video for the first exercise and lower your hand slowly until it reaches the position it did when you let it hang off in front of your knee before, then raise it back up to a neutral position. For reverse wrist curls have your hand hang of in front of your knee again, facing the way the guy has it in the 2nd exercise and lower it, I think you get the picture.
Also as a side note I used to do the exercise in this thread
, farmers walks, I did this
and it completely got rid of my issue for a couple months. However the issue came back eventually, I recently I've learned it might've been because I was doing the exercise for too long when realistically you should only be doing it for a couple minutes at most 3 times a day and I did more than that. Doing as many reps as possible of these exercises or doing them for as long as possible, even if they're not hurting you, isn't going to help you either, I've tried that, a lot.
I've seen people say many different things on how long it takes to recover by doing these exercises, some say they recover in 4 weeks, some in 6 months to a year. There also other things I could point you towards trying but I think the things in the 2 links I gave you are best trying first. I was told by someone that for the first link's exercises once you get to the heaviest weights you should only be doing 8-12 reps, I was told this by someone who's done way more research than I have and who's also helped me a lot. I don't know however if it's best to do these exercises every day or every other day, I'm seeing a bit more improvements doing them every day so far, I'll keep you posted if something significant happens.

I have known of people with sever carpal tunnel who have solved this using the forearm braces with the metal bars in them- this is simple and highly effective.
 
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First off if you have any questions after reading this or later on feel free to ask. I don't know everything, but I think I could help you a lot. Also, don't skip over the paragraph in the middle that I wrote if you are going to use the physical therapy in the first link I give you, because the link leaves out important information that I give you and in the video it can be easy to misinterpret how to do one of the physical therapy exercises he does. Also, I've watched lectures on this and while it seems counter intuitive, resting your hands is not the way to help yourself. Your hands will only become weaker and even if you rest them for a year like I did you'll likely still get pain after enough activity. Physical therapy is the way to go.
I've been using the exercises from this video
to help my condition. Start with low weights and keep increasing the weights over time until you get to 25 pounds for the normal wrist curls, I personally do 15 for the reverse wrist curls and the third exercise the guy in the video mentions. I've recently learned that I've been doing them wrong so my wrists haven't gotten the full benefit of them yet but I've corrected how I'm doing them in the past few days and I've started seeing improvements already. I'll try to go as in depth as I can to help you because it's important and it's more complicated than the video presents it as.
Your range of motion when doing the exercise shouldn't be more than your wrist in it's natural position when you sit on something, lay your arm flat on your leg and have your hand extended a bit out over your knee, and let your hand hang limply. Do that with your hand facing up and down, that's how much you'll move your hands during the exercises. So for normal wrist curls, hold a weight, sit down, put your hand facing the way he does in the video for the first exercise and lower your hand slowly until it reaches the position it did when you let it hang off in front of your knee before, then raise it back up to a neutral position. For reverse wrist curls have your hand hang of in front of your knee again, facing the way the guy has it in the 2nd exercise and lower it, I think you get the picture.
Also as a side note I used to do the exercise in this thread
, farmers walks, I did this
and it completely got rid of my issue for a couple months. However the issue came back eventually, I recently I've learned it might've been because I was doing the exercise for too long when realistically you should only be doing it for a couple minutes at most 3 times a day and I did more than that. Doing as many reps as possible of these exercises or doing them for as long as possible, even if they're not hurting you, isn't going to help you either, I've tried that, a lot.
I've seen people say many different things on how long it takes to recover by doing these exercises, some say they recover in 4 weeks, some in 6 months to a year. There also other things I could point you towards trying but I think the things in the 2 links I gave you are best trying first. I was told by someone that for the first link's exercises once you get to the heaviest weights you should only be doing 8-12 reps, I was told this by someone who's done way more research than I have and who's also helped me a lot. I don't know however if it's best to do these exercises every day or every other day, I'm seeing a bit more improvements doing them every day so far, I'll keep you posted if something significant happens.

Thank you very much for this long post!
 
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I don't know much about braces, and since they're cheaper than getting a bunch of weights that would be better to try first. I tried a brace and it didn't do much for me but I think whether it helps or not depends on the cause of the carpel tunnel.
 
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I don't know much about braces, and since they're cheaper than getting a bunch of weights that would be better to try first. I tried a brace and it didn't do much for me but I think whether it helps or not depends on the cause of the carpel tunnel.
How long did you try the brace for- and was it a very solid brace with a metal bar, one of thye most expensive, best brnads (still under $30/ per arm). This is the key- did you try them 15 hours a day for a month? It would be shocking is this much wearing of a top of the line brace didnt make a huge impact- if you tried them for two or three dsays and gave up then you didn't give them enough time to work.
 
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Mine don't have metal bars. I don't remember exactly how long I wore them for but I think I tried it for at least a couple weeks. I still have them so I'll try them for 1 month and if that doesn't work I'll get a better brace.
 
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Mine don't have metal bars. I don't remember exactly how long I wore them for but I think I tried it for at least a couple weeks. I still have them so I'll try them for 1 month and if that doesn't work I'll get a better brace.
You really need the ones with metal bars and to have them on tight to keep the wrist from flexing, since just a small amount of flexing will ruin the effect- I would try to get these as soon as possible to keep this from getting worse.
 

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