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Jello Biafra

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Sep 9, 2024
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I don't get it. Why do so many people attempt carbon monoxide is a tent, or a car, or a bathroom or something?

It makes no sense. Why use a space with such a high volume of residual air? And who in gods name came up with a "megathread" that thought this would be a good idea? Having to use tons of charcoal and/or several BBQ grills - it makes no sense.

At lower concentrations, co is going to cause issues breathing, coughing, etc. But at high concentrations it's obviously as peaceful as it gets.

There's a reason Jack Kevorkian, aka Dr. Death, who championed the rights of death with dignity using carbon monoxide. His assistant even petitioned state governments in the US using things like Nitrogen for capital punishment, arguing that CO was much easier and more peaceful.

Granted, Kevorkian used a compressed cylinder of CO with a mask - however in every report, when the PPMs are high enough, the person loses consciousness immediately.

Every single small BBQ grill I've seen has a lid with a little vent on top that can be opened and closed or adjusted. Why not put the lid on and put a tube connected to a simple oxygen mask? The PPMs of CO would be incredibly high as the fumes have nowhere to go but out through the tub/vent.

I understand people did this with the COgen generator that mixes 2 acids to create CO. The problem with that is you now are inhaling CO along with a very caustic and noxious acid, causing severe discomfort. This could be alleviates with a water wash, meaning the tube exhausting the CO from the acidic reaction only needs to be stuck in to a jar/glass of water - as it bubbles up the water washes the acid and leaves a bubble of pure carbon monoxide.

This could be easily done with a grill. Tube from vent goes to covered glass of water, tube from lid of water goes to mask.

Honestly, I don't understand why we have a megathread here talking about tents and sealing cars or closets.

Furthermore, there are "co testing kits" - like aerosol spray meant to test co alarms. Amazon has the at 2000ppm of co. That means 1 burst spray is 2000ppm. Seems to me if you emptied the can into a bag you'd have well over 12000 ppm, which means immediate unconsciousness and ctb in minutes.

What am I missing here?
 
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find your own way to the Knife
May 1, 2024
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Honestly the first things that come to my mind when people say to do it in a car or tent is the likeliness of getting caught but also your SI. I know people on here who would rather sit in their car in a secluded place away from their family but also having something actively on your face or head is hard on your SI rather than just sitting there with nothing physically restricting you, even if it's for less time like you mentioned. There's also just the factor of people just not having access to that, burning charcoal in an enclosed area is just the cheapest and easiest for some people.
 
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Mar 26, 2024
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Using a car/tent has a few purposes: privacy and protection for others. Many people live in an apartment building or with family and an attempt around the home could also put them in danger. Cars and tents allow one to isolate their attempt away from others.

As for the BBQ/charcoal, these are almost everywhere and can be purchased cheaply. The idea of the megathread is to make the method as accessible and easy to execute for everyone. Is it the most refined method? No. But it has the highest likelihood of succeeding for the greatest number of people, or so that is the idea of the megathreads.
 

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