Can someone help me leave syria

[Nightmare]

In short,i'm able to recover and i have the determination but every time i tried to be positive and move on since years i realize that i'm unable to recover in this toxic environment, there is no future at all for me whatever i do, abusive family(muslims) and no freedom, everyday i keep getting reminded that i worth less then a human being and even my two ever relationships ended because i couldn't leave this country, one is still bounding though there is love from both sides but she is staying away because she cant take it she is a psychologist and explained to me why, the pain i keep i hold inside me.. i'm really storing so much hatred inside me i feel like i want to tear my brother apart and jump out of window he keeps destroying my mentality with his hypocrisy while i try to communicate or push him away but its so toxic so much hatred they are literally slaves to their tormentors and doesn't know what love is, he is islam extremist who keep insulting infidels even at his fb page(he support the beading of the french teacher and say france is criminal country that should be trialed for its crimes against his muslim brethren) in the contrary i'm secular atheist,they have so stupid terroristic believes and everybody hates me because i'm different, says too much to me and threatens me since i were a minor to jail me or throw me in psychward and he is a lawyer, my parents are not far less annoying then him i can contain them by violence which is the only way that proved effective, but he offer a support to them even though he hates their guts, they know i'm suicidal and they are obstacle in my way my mother say even if you will be imprisoned your whole life i will "save" you if i see you trying to suicide while also destroying my mentality everyday, as for my dad he starts insulting me and degrading me like "go kill yourself let me have rest of your presence" and he lasts for hours once he start, i only could a bit stop him from hurting me that much by using my merciless psychpath personality and i don't shut up until he no longer say a single word and i hate to do that because it didn't have to be like that, when i remain silent they keep abusing me, i try to communicate i reach no point, i try defend myself they turn into animals who don't listen to reason
i already have schizophrenia, chronic pain and chronic Dyspnea and i couldn't even find a way to suicide no matter how hard i try and every friend of mine in the west i ask for tiny favor just further push me into believing there's no hope for me instead of actually listening to me and helping me with those small favors i ask, i'm already intelligent secular and good looking, everybody testifies that i'm an amazing person but sadly buried alive being stuck in war torn islamic shit hole puppet country within islamic family and i try so hard since 5 years my ultimate goal was to quit syria or die trying to i even tried to swim to cyprus when i was 17 at very cold weather where i have no idea how did i not die considering i lasted 11hour and its all because they fucked my graduation threatening me to jail me if i don't get out of their house for stupid reasons related to ego just one week before exams(then acted like nothing happened 2 days before exams when i already stopped studying and then claimed i didn't intend to attend them in the first place that's why i'm not studying while in reality i had one month 15hour daily studying before they did that), the next day i return after they got destroyed and begged me to go back my dad attacked me for stupid reason and almost blinded one of my eyes with his nails while i was taken by a surprise and so long those last 5 years i keep having to undergo different sorts of bullshit that already made me selfless to an extreme point
i'm not venting though, i was in this forums for years but never thought of sharing my problems but now i talk in order to find some sort of help to leave syria into a secular country(preferably spain where my gf resides or belgium where i have a place to stay)
if i don't find help here, i wont anywhere else and i barely find the strength to not be suicidal right now

 

[NeverSatisfied]

I'm so sorry to hear about your situation :/ Unfortunately, I don't think most people on this website will be able to help much (but maybe someone can, it's worth a shot right?)

I think your best bet is to look into Humanitarian aid groups and work if you can to save up. It would probably take forever to be able to pay someone to help you across and idk if there are many in Syria. I know the further west you get the more people smugglers there are though. I don't know what to say. I wish I could help but you will be on my mind. I'm sorry about the mental anguish your family puts you through, please stay strong and stay safe whatever your path be.

 

[ClairyFairy]

There's an international rescue committee working out there and UNICEF, the red Cross and save the children are all charities working out there. I wouldn't know how to find where they are based out there but you could try and Google some of those places. I'm so sorry that you're life is , I don't even know what to say, there is help but it's just if you can access it and if it's close by to where you live. Stay strong friend xx

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

You might want to try to meet a foreign atheist to get married. here in US we are trying to import high IQ secular people so that we can become a greater share of the population than the Christian evangelicals and also prevent future radical Muslim influence in our country. Traditionally secular Arabs have come to the west and done well here

in YouTube you'll find many examples of US and UK white women who are going to Middle East to get married

sorry that US/UK/Russia/France/ISIS/Saudi used your country as an imperalist playground

 

[Nightmare]

There's an international rescue committee working out there and UNICEF, the red Cross and save the children are all charities working out there. I wouldn't know how to find where they are based out there but you could try and Google some of those places. I'm so sorry that you're life is , I don't even know what to say, there is help but it's just if you can access it and if it's close by to where you live. Stay strong friend xx

tried all those, i get ignored.. + they dont help you to leave syria they just help you with prolonging your life(camps food etc) and i'm putting you aware that most donations the west does to humantarian organizations does not get put to a good use and the goods which has(NOT MADE SALE) with UN signature on them are getting sold here let alone government takes too much to allow these aids to enter more then they worth
i do not want financial aid, i want to be in a secular country and i handle myself on my own then not live on support!
in my situation if i'm to get a legal aid, i need asylum where most syrians try to get it just to improve their lives not because they need it, so.... my chance is small in this and every embassy or organization i message ignores me since years and keep in mind all secular embassies are closed in syria because its an embarged country
my biggest bet is to find someone able to get me a short stay visa, once i'm in i can apply asylum in the west and wont be sent back after i do that

You might want to try to meet a foreign atheist to get married. here in US we are trying to import high IQ secular people so that we can become a greater share of the population than the Christian evangelicals and also prevent future radical Muslim influence in our country. Traditionally secular Arabs have come to the west and done well here

in YouTube you'll find many examples of US and UK white women who are going to Middle East to get married

sorry that US/UK/Russia/France/ISIS/Saudi used your country as an imperalist playground

i don't want to marry to get helped! to get in the west alright but to live in that marriage? no! i already love a spanish girl she is an atheist and she loves me, i also have to tell you that i never heard of those westerners picking up people for marriage here, maybe arranged over internet but here in the ground? no! the radical people wouldn't allow this and the policies with tourists are so stupid that no businessman or any person will want to come especially that government is not responsible to protect your properties/life (example: you cant use foreign currency and you exchange them for like 30% of what they actually worth for syrian currency)
if you have any suggestions of any websites i visit to find some sort of help with this then i'd really appreciate it



Off topic: i'm sorry to talk about this but you shouldn't blame secular interference in syria unless you are fine letting tyrants do whatever they please to their people, US and UK and france unlike the others have only came to defend human rights that islamic dictatorship is violating and they have never attacked any rebel that is not radical or irani, russia iran saudi arabia are in the other hands the ones inciting troubles here and killing syrians by direct attacks, it was a civil war between alawits muslims(government) and sunni muslims(majority syrians) west again like they did in afghainstan supported freedom fighters against the government while russia and iran colonized syria and other islamic countries funded islam extremist rebels/foreigners to make another side in the equation
in syria there can not be peace no matter who wins unless islam is extreminated(impossible) muslims can never have peace between each others even after bringing back tyrant governments and i tell you that knowing every up and down islam holds considering i studied it in depth just look on current politics or history, after mohammed died poisoned by a jew all his friends got killed by each others even his wife aisha the 6-9 year old girl he married has participated in a war against his cousin ali(the one shiaa muslims in iran and turkey comes from and all other muslims say they are infidels and you can also see these are parts in the war at syria today) sunni and shiaa muslims(iran, turkey) are entirely meant to kill each others and they always did

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

tried all those, i get ignored.. + they dont help you to leave syria they just help you with prolonging your life(camps food etc) and i'm putting you aware that most donations the west does to humantarian organizations does not get put to a good use and the goods which has(NOT MADE SALE) with UN signature on them are getting sold here let alone government takes too much to allow these aids to enter more then they worth
i do not want financial aid, i want to be in a secular country and i handle myself on my own then not live on support!
in my situation if i'm to get a legal aid, i need asylum where most syrians try to get it just to improve their lives not because they need it, so.... my chance is small in this and every embassy or organization i message ignores me since years and keep in mind all secular embassies are closed in syria because its an embarged country
my biggest bet is to find someone able to get me a short stay visa, once i'm in i can apply asylum in the west and wont be sent back after i do that

i don't want to marry to get helped! to get in the west alright but to live in that marriage? no! i already love a spanish girl she is an atheist and she loves me, i also have to tell you that i never heard of those westerners picking up people for marriage here, maybe arranged over internet but here in the ground? no! the radical people wouldn't allow this and the policies with tourists are so stupid that no businessman or any person will want to come especially that government is not responsible to protect your properties/life (example: you cant use foreign currency and you exchange them for like 30% of what they actually worth for syrian currency)
if you have any suggestions of any websites i visit to find some sort of help with this then i'd really appreciate it



Off topic: i'm sorry to talk about this but you shouldn't blame secular interference in syria unless you are fine letting tyrants do whatever they please to their people, US and UK and france unlike the others have only came to defend human rights that islamic dictatorship is violating and they have never attacked any rebel that is not radical or irani, russia iran saudi arabia are in the other hands the ones inciting troubles here and killing syrians by direct attacks, it was a civil war between alawits muslims(government) and sunni muslims(majority syrians) west again like they did in afghainstan supported freedom fighters against the government while russia and iran colonized syria and other islamic countries funded islam extremist rebels/foreigners to make another side in the equation
in syria there can not be peace no matter who wins unless islam is extreminated(impossible) muslims can never have peace between each others even after bringing back tyrant governments and i tell you that knowing every up and down islam holds considering i studied it in depth just look on current politics or history, after mohammed died poisoned by a jew all his friends got killed by each others even his wife aisha the 6-9 year old girl he married has participated in a war against his cousin ali(the one shiaa muslims in iran and turkey comes from and all other muslims say they are infidels and you can also see these are parts in the war at syria today) sunni and shiaa muslims(iran, turkey) are entirely meant to kill each others and they always did

If you are in love with the Spanish girl she is your best chance to get out. Try to marry and get out for immigration

 

[Nightmare]

If you are in love with the Spanish girl she is your best chance to get out. Try to marry and get out for immigration

that was the plan before we broke up half a year ago
now she doesn't want to start anything before we are in touch for her own safety, last time my suicidal nature damned everything and last time we talked for long and she told me exactly but not only "i need to remove those feelings already, dont feed my desire , you just making me more willing to wish you , if i keep thinking bout you , my desire gonna grow , and none can hold that"
she is a psychologist(1 year to graduate) and knows what she is talking about, i must reach her, not ask her to get me to her she already have doubts i'm talking to her to use her to get in europe and i think i already asked for too much and even if she helps me, how long will that beneficial relationship last then?

can you help me find someone to temporarily marry me or someone that can help me with a friendvisit visa(possibly with the excuse of a date) i just need to get in by any possible means then i win even if its illegal, i can never be returned if i refuse to based on political back ground
please do your best to help me in that if you can, you'd fix my life

 

[netrezven]

How much power does your family have? Can they trace you and lock your way out - thought turkey?

 

[Nightmare]

How much power does your family have? Can they trace you and lock your way out - thought turkey?

its not like that you don't understand, they wouldn't stop me anymore from leaving syria considering i already have completely turned against everything they stand for and i'm not being useful to them at all in any sort to avoid that they repeat what they did in the past to stop me from leaving them by any sort of way just to use me.. they are toxic haters that are mentally ill, pathetic and harmful to me by every sort of way but they don't realize that they are like this no matter how much anybody explains to them and they believe they are right in everything that they have done to me as well! they are proud of their own families(that were worse then them) and say for example they would eat their parents shit just so they say that they are satisfied with them(to not go to hell in islam because your parents decide if you get bad life and go to hell after you die or not according to quran), they don't listen to reason complete ignorants who live in pain their whole lives and they hurt me whenever i try to fix something in my life or theirs, i can scare my parents off i'm not handless all the time but my brother i cannot keepsilent/talk/argue with him anything without having him getting on my nerves which you can imagine animal is screaming at you(when i do i'm usually fed up with hatred and about to tear him apart if i don't stop myself he wont stop), he is a corrupt lawyer that is full of hatred/hypocrisy so you cant convince him anything that is obvious, they are all hypocritical af like i hide 200$ with my mother a year ago(thats almost a year worth of work here) and when i ask for them she deny in every sort of way that she has them while also saying deal with it you cant do anything about it(acting like i hurt her feelings to escape argument and never fucking shuts the fuck up once she starts talking my head starts exploding i want to just fking die)
this is how it goes, they no longer dare to violently abuse me like when i were vulnerable(and had something to lose) but i'm not going to achieve nothing in life or even be happy if i have to get suicidal everyday because of them, you have to put in mind im also mentally ill i have obsessive love disorder too because of child abuse and lack of any care since i were a child and also being extremely religious then finding out its all a lie, like i sympathize my torturer too and i'm too vulnerable for abuse even in relationships, if i don't fix that then fk life i don't want it and i currently don't want it but i'm trying to want it mainly since im scared to fail suicide(i go to jail for like 10 years its against law here and i already have two signed warnings) and i already know i will want it if i manage to get to the free world
sorry though i'm extremely sad right now so i was venting a bit
getting in turkey is pointless though, turkey is just a place you get into by smuggling, live illegally,and have to get to balkans illegally after you do that(all these cost pointlessly toooo much, life threatening/high risk of scam) not worth it!
i was thinking today of somehow getting in morocco and then going to unicef agency there so i don't get returned, and when corona disaster is over and borders are open again i find a way to get in spain or portugal, i already have a portuguese close friend that would possibly help me get in since he was a drug dealer through these places at some point and he left jail half year ago he suggested me to go somewhere and then not return, wait until corona is over then find a way to get in europe
but i need some sort of internet job though, something related to programming(but i'm a noob)

 

[Nightwillalwayswin]

What is the core of the issue? Is it money for a a flight to get you somewhere you can access help?

 

[Nightmare]

What is the core of the issue? Is it money for a a flight to get you somewhere you can access help?

not money..
long ago in several of my plans it was money issues where i simply cancel everything because of various friends offering financial aid then changing their mind later after i find a way trusting someone got my back
i need a way to get in the free world, syrian passport doesn't permit you enter any country in world without visa, and visa is hard as hell to obtain for a syrian
im thinking if i can find a way to go to morocco i would ask unicef to help me with residence for a while, but i need some sort of internet job/stability until corona is over it will much easier to get in europe from there while also quitting the toxic environment i live at

 

[Nightwillalwayswin]

Okay, sorry to hear. I was just asking because if it was the main/only issue and it would give you a life worth living then I would have been willing to help. Sorry that I can't.

 

[aneurysm]

It's very brave of you to ask for help.

 

[Nightmare]

It's very brave of you to ask for help.

well, after getting betrayed many times/called begger/harassed by pro lifers/my own suicidal ex that wanted to suicide many times and i always promised her i'd kill her myself if i cant help her,i even loved her to help her, i took a promise from her once that she would do the same to me at some point when she broke my heart and she broke that promise all together with harassing me like an extreme pro lifer then leaving/my closest friend(an israeli agent who originally wanted to use me but changed her mind) cared for me and i trusted to get me out of syria died like 10 month ago as well sending me into hell
i'm not sure its bravery or insanity, i already promised myself over and over after everytime someone hurt me to never ever ask for nothing from anybody but i just cant die so fk it :/

Okay, sorry to hear. I was just asking because if it was the main/only issue and it would give you a life worth living then I would have been willing to help. Sorry that I can't.

if i need, i'll ask here thank you <3

 

[aneurysm]

i always promised her i'd kill her myself if i cant help her

wow, that relationship must have been intense.

i'm not sure its bravery or insanity

I guess you simply don't have a choice, like the rest of us :(
Sorry life has come to this for us, and I kinda understand the wanting to escape from your country thing since it's kinda also my issue. And my family is also muslim. But I guess my situation is less desperate, I still need to die thought. But it's very hard to kill yourself when you are from a muslim community, the mental programming is too profound to access.

 

[Tired_Tired]

Nothing is free in this world.

 

[kkatt]

I don't know how it would work to even leave the country right now. I'm guessing if you came to another country,you would need a sponsor,to ensure that you wouldn't be a drain on the economy.
Also there's this plague making everything twice as hard.
However tempting it might be,don't pay shady people smugglers a penny. I'm sure you know full well how that works.
If I could help,I would,but I just don't know what I could do.

 

[Nightmare]

I don't know how it would work to even leave the country right now. I'm guessing if you came to another country,you would need a sponsor,to ensure that you wouldn't be a drain on the economy.
Also there's this plague making everything twice as hard.
However tempting it might be,don't pay shady people smugglers a penny. I'm sure you know full well how that works.
If I could help,I would,but I just don't know what I could do.

yup i wouldn't interact with smugglers unless i'm my own smuggler who made the plans and arranged everything
i'll most likely need help of some sort i'm searching and planning right now so i'll keep in touch thank you <3

 

[Oozzy]

Why dont you go to Turkey? I know its not the best country for living but at least its secular and its easy to go there from Syria.

 

[Sherri]

I'm so sorry to read your struggles, and what you have to face. Like some ops have said, turkey would be a good option. Wish you the best of luck, hope you can manage to go somewhere safe.

 

[Avyn]

Honestly in your case, running away to any country would be a better option for you than staying in the situation you are in.

It doesn't have to be Europe, it doesn't have to be USA, anywhere at this point would be better for your health than staying in this toxic environment! I would suggest you to move out to Turkey or any country that is close to you first, once you feel better mentally you can try to find a way to get to your girlfriend.
Especially now in times of Corona there is a very small chance for you to successfully run away to the countries you wanna go to, anywhere in general honestly. Sometimes you have to take what you can get, even if it is not the best.

I wish you so much luck, and please stay safe. Your life will hopefully get better soon

 

[Nightmare]

Honestly in your case, running away to any country would be a better option for you than staying in the situation you are in.

It doesn't have to be Europe, it doesn't have to be USA, anywhere at this point would be better for your health than staying in this toxic environment! I would suggest you to move out to Turkey or any country that is close to you first, once you feel better mentally you can try to find a way to get to your girlfriend.
Especially now in times of Corona there is a very small chance for you to successfully run away to the countries you wanna go to, anywhere in general honestly. Sometimes you have to take what you can get, even if it is not the best.

I wish you so much luck, and please stay safe. Your life will hopefully get better soon

getting in turkey is not easier then getting in europe and the only absolute way is smuggling , "anywhere" are hard as well to get in, even if i get anywhere that doesn't have to be europe, if i get anywhere that is not west europe or scandi or canada or australia, i will live as nobody and be below zero in a place i do not know a street at, never ever going to get citizenship/passport or have protection of any country LITERALLY NOBODY, i cant survive for too long anywhere that is not secular i cannot carry on with being treated as a degenerate and needing others, also if you think turkey is secular then i think syria is far more secular then turkey is, in reality the best places to go are also the only places you can go to for asylum purposes, nowhere else except temporarily if you got a plan

+ my "half gf" clearly stated i don't want anything over internet, there are limits to what you ask from your girl especially when you have made past mistakes
im not going to contact her before i'm no longer subject to this http://prntscr.com/xvowx8

 

[KleinerWolf]

Apply for refugee at western democracy embassys in Syria.
You are very likely to qualify.

 

[Nightmare]

Apply for refugee at western democracy embassys in Syria.
You are very likely to qualify.

all are closed since 2012 , NK embassy is still open though

 

[Nightmare]

between 2019 beginning and until 2020 middle, i had a psychologist prescribing my medicines and he is second in command at the psychward i was stuck at in 2019, just yesterday i had 3v1 fight with family that filled my neck with scars and i got threatened at again so i'm using the opportunity
i will acquire evidences of my situation and parental abuse/threats of imprisonment, i need links where presenting them would be useful to get advises/support, now i think many can help in that

 

[kkatt]

yup i wouldn't interact with smugglers unless i'm my own smuggler who made the plans and arranged everything
i'll most likely need help of some sort i'm searching and planning right now so i'll keep in touch thank you <3

Please do. If there's anything I can do to help....hit me up

 

[Nightmare]

Please do. If there's anything I can do to help....hit me up

i had a problem with my family and went to psychward since my last post until now, 20 day i suppose and i'm bloody sick of this shit hole of a country(thank you muslim arabs), for my family they just don't know how pathetic and harmful to me are they.
anyways in psychward i thought of a legitimate way into fixing my life that hopefully should workout but i will need too much help with it, i'll fill you in with details late at night or tomorrow since i'm still unstable because of the medications i was given there i need to relax a bit or you'll just be talking into a robot who cant even get sexually turned on

 

[Nexey]

- If you're still talking to this Spanish girl, please stop. I might be misunderstanding but if she's relying on you for emotional support, even though she's your ex, that is not healthy. She is not your responsibility. You are not her responsibility. It's obviously easier said than done but both of you need to move on.

- Stop trying to enter Europe or the Anglosphere. After the European migrant crisis, most of us Westerners do NOT have positive views of Syrian refugees. A lot of them are the same extremist Muslims that you claim to hate so much. This is especially the case if you're a man. You will not be accepted here.

- If you're still insistent on moving to the "free world" knowing this, then your best options are contacting as many international organizations as you can and trying to find someone online to marry. Obviously, you'll have WAAAAAY more luck trying to enter a Middle-Eastern country than a Western one.

- It sounds like a major issue you're having is your family. I have no idea if this is even feasible, so forgive me if it isn't but... I'd suggest trying to live out on your own or trying to find other Syrians to bunk with who are also ex-Muslim. Easier said than done.

 

[Bonkers]

I disagree with the statement 'you will not be welcome here.' OP shows great tenacity and imagination. I wish you well, OP.

 

[Ashley_1988]

I am very sorry about ur situation, and I ´ve actually no idea how the situation in Syria is right now. U said that their are nearly no chances to get help by foreign NGO´s? What about human rights activist within Syria? that can help u do get away from toxic the situation within ur family? Maybe that is a start?

And I also disagree with the statement that refugees are not welcome in Europe. In particular many people from Syria are welcome here due to their good Eduaction etc. And indeed their are also voices that have an issue with the increase of immigrants but many back to differ..

Nevertheless in the consequence of the corona virus (among other reasons) the boarders are pretty much closed and it is not easy to get to Germany for example.

So I hope you ll find a way within Syria to get help..if thats even possible ??