Can i kill myself simply using just a plastic bag?

[Gavalar]

I'm ridiculously tired and I need to end it, preferably tonight.
My last break up has broke me, its been 2 months I'm in no closer to getting out this rut so fuck it.
Would just a plastic bag work? My options are hanging using ties but the last 3 times haven't worked, whether it's the angle or what, I just keep feeling pressure in my head.
The only other thing I can think of is a plastic bag?

 

[spanishguy22]

The suffocating feeling is terrible and you'll tear it

 

[Gavalar]

The suffocating feeling is terrible and you'll tear it

Is there any way to overcome it?

 

[limelight]

Is there any way to overcome it?

Tie your hands together on your back? Dunno

 

[mrnadim]

I don't wana be ridiculos i feel the same u do and the only thing that is keeping me from doing right now , i have something to do before i go and i need few days , but i wana ask u did u seek help ?

 

[Gavalar]

I don't wana be ridiculos i feel the same u do and the only thing that is keeping me from doing right now , i have something to do before i go and i need few days , but i wana ask u did u seek help ?

I'm done seeking help.
Counselling takes 6 months and medication messes with me entirely.
I've tried doctors but people don't take this seriously.
I'm more than happy to end things.

 

[mrnadim]

I'm done seeking help.
Counselling takes 6 months and medication messes with me entirely.
I've tried doctors but people don't take this seriously.
I'm more than happy to end things.

At least take sometime to make a good plan , i consider you read what i posted today about failing with amitriptyline u dnt wana make a simular mistake

 

[Gavalar]

I would use drugs but wouldn't be able to get them shipped.
I've failed partial too many times.
I'm not sure what more to do.

 

[ArtVandelay]

Is there any way to overcome it?

Have you considered using nitrogen?

 

[Gavalar]

Have you considered using nitrogen?

I'm worried it will be seized and I wouldn't really know where to start.

 

[TiredHorse]

The only way plastic bag asphyxiation works is with very heavy sedatives to overpower the hypercapnic alarm (buildup of CO2 in the bloodstream). With sedatives it can be done, supposedly, but it's still not a reliable way to CTB, and as a result has been largly superceded by the far more reliable exit bag/inert gas method which purges the CO2.

To learn about using inert gas (nitrogen), read through the exit bag / inert gas megathread.

 

[Gavalar]

The only way plastic bag asphyxiation works is with very heavy sedatives to overpower the hypercapnic alarm (buildup of CO2 in the bloodstream). With sedatives it can be done, supposedly, but it's still not a reliable way to CTB, and as a result has been largly superceded by the far more reliable exit bag/inert gas method which purges the CO2.

To learn about using inert gas (nitrogen), read through the exit bag / inert gas megathread.

But wouldn't the lack of oxygen still kill me? Say if I put the bag on, tied it and then tied my hands together?

 

[ArtVandelay]

But wouldn't the lack of oxygen still kill me? Say if I put the bag on, tied it and then tied my hands together?

Technically yes, but without inert gas to displace the CO2 then you will be in a world of pain. You'd be thrashing around trying to rip the bag off even with your hands tied.

 

[spanishguy22]

But wouldn't the lack of oxygen still kill me? Say if I put the bag on, tied it and then tied my hands together?

I did that and used my teeth lol. I'm just saying you're gonna feel very bad for like a minute. I tore it after 5 seconds. Felt like longer.

 

[Gavalar]

Technically yes, but without inert gas to displace the CO2 then you will be in a world of pain. You'd be thrashing around trying to rip the bag off even with your hands tied.

I'll try it tonight. Hopefully the pain isn't unbearable enough.

 

[ArtVandelay]

I'll try it tonight. Hopefully the pain isn't unbearable enough.

It will be extremely unpleasant, with a low chance of success.

I'm worried it will be seized and I wouldn't really know where to start.

Were you worried about it being seized during shipping? Or by someone you live with? Because you can usually buy everything you need in person, from a local gas supplier. I know this method sounds complicated, but if done right then you will spare yourself a lot of suffering.

 

[mrnadim]

Man dont do it with a simple bag !! Use helium gas if all hope are lost !!! It wont be a human death and the pain will be much much bigger than u feel now ...

 

[TiredHorse]

But wouldn't the lack of oxygen still kill me? Say if I put the bag on, tied it and then tied my hands together?

The difficulty lies in what's called hypercapnic alarm: once the CO2 builds up in your bloodstream, you won't have any choice but tear yourself out of the bag, whether or not your hands are tied. It's an instinctual response. The failure of this method has nothing to do with the physical discomfort --having intentionally triggered the hypercapnic alarm to see what it's like, I can tell you that by the time it starts to kick in it's mentally unpleasant more than physically painful-- so much as the instinctive mind fighting for survival. Your pain threshold will have nothing to do with your inevitable failure.

If you want to try, by all means go ahead. You'll no doubt find the experience instructional. But don't make any plans for success, because it's 99.99% likely you won't succeed. It'll be an educational way for you to spend the evening, will probably make you feel even worse about yourself than you do now (failures are both exhausting and demoralizing), and with this attempt in your memory may make it even more difficult to overcome your Survival Instinct later when you decide to research and implement a more realistic plan.

If you feel like reporting back on your experience, I'm sure the collective knowledge base here on the forum will benefit from a write up.

(Sorry to be crabby, but your question is getting a universal response of "it's a bad idea/it won't work," a cursory search of the forum will educate you in why it's a reliably bad idea, and yet you persist in pursuing it.)

 

[mrnadim]

Did you do it or ur still alive ?

 

[Gavalar]

Did you do it or ur still alive ?

I tried but unfortunately I'm still here.
My chest was burning like mad.
I just want to stop failing....

 

[TiredHorse]

I just want to stop failing....

Then you need to stop using methods that are guaranteed to fail.

I'm sorry you're in such a wretched place, Gavalar. It sucks, and I've definitely been there. But you need to pause, catch your breath (so to speak), and do some research into what actually does and doesn't work. There is no easy road to an effective suicide --if there were, it would be well mapped and very well travelled-- and the only way to get the result you seek is to do some responsible preparation.

 

[IronTusk]

Then you need to stop using methods that are guaranteed to fail.

I'm sorry you're in such a wretched place, Gavalar. It sucks, and I've definitely been there. But you need to pause, catch your breath (so to speak), and do some research into what actually does and doesn't work. There is no easy road to an effective suicide --if there were, it would be well mapped and very well travelled-- and the only way to get the result you seek is to do some responsible preparation.

There kinda is an easy road to an effective suicide. Gun or a noose.

 

[Soul]

There kinda is an easy road to an effective suicide. Gun or a noose.

Effective if one knows how to do it right, and then manages to do it that way. Gavalar, have a good browse through the thread called "List of resources" - you'll find a lot of useful stuff there. Hoping for the best outcome for you ...

 

[TiredHorse]

There kinda is an easy road to an effective suicide. Gun or a noose.

Nope.

Go through the site and make a list of all the failed attempts. I'll wager hanging will be at the top of the list. As for a gun, Hollywood has taught us to aim it at the temple or under the chin, both of which are failure prone --as a friend of mine discovered when he blew his eyes out of his face and turned himself into a vegetable.

As @Soul says, they're only effective if you know how to do it right and then manage to do it that way.

 

[IronTusk]

Nope.

Go through the site and make a list of all the failed attempts. I'll wager hanging will be at the top of the list. As for a gun, Hollywood has taught us to aim it at the temple or under the chin, both of which are failure prone --as a friend of mine discovered when he blew his eyes out of his face and turned himself into a vegetable.

As @Soul says, they're only effective if you know how to do it right and then manage to do it that way.

The failure rate for a firearm is about 5% I believe? And even if you aimed at your temple you'd likely die. As for hanging Wikipedia lists the failure rate at 30%.

Buy a shotgun put it in your mouth and you're dead. You'll probably cite the 5% who aim at their chin.

 

[Soul]

Buy a shotgun, put it in my mouth, figure out how to pull the trigger in that position, don't slip or spasm, and yes, I'd probably either succeed or never know I didn't. Not all of us can easily do any of that, but yes, if done right it's effective.

 

[IronTusk]

The failure rate for a firearm is about 5% I believe? And even if you aimed at your temple you'd likely die. As for hanging Wikipedia lists the failure rate at 30%.

Buy a shotgun put it in your mouth and you're dead. You'll probably cite the 5% who aim at their chin.

@TiredHorse sorry if I came across as a dick. I'm having a shitty day. My apologies.

 

[TiredHorse]

@TiredHorse sorry if I came across as a dick. I'm having a shitty day. My apologies.

Nah; no worries. I'm a bit crabby here, too --shitty night last night and a futile morning thus far-- so I apologize as well.

Some days it isn't worth chewing your leg off to get out of the trap.

I hope your day improves!

 

[TAW122]

A plastic bag alone would not be sufficient and your body will likely fight to tear it off, thus resulting in a failed attempt. This is because when you don't have oxygen to breathe or any other inert gas, CO2 builds up and causes a hypercapnic response, thus your body will panic and try to gasp for air, Oxygen to survive. What you might be looking for (if obtaining a shotgun/firearm is not feasible), is an exit bag.