Can anybody tell me about your experience being in longterm inpatient treatment for suicidality?

[Final Escape]

My friend thinks I need to do this and was wondering if anybody benefited from this? What happens in there? Did u get a hefty medical bill? Did you get better?

 

[Johnnythefox]

Here's a thread with peoples experiences.
I myself have managed to evade it so far.
[URL="https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/psych-ward.9439/"]Psych ward[/URL]

 

[Final Escape]

Here's a thread with peoples experiences.
I myself have managed to evade it so far.
Psych ward

Thanks Johnny :)

 

[Johnnythefox]

Your welcome.

 

[Stillnotsure]

@Final Escape , therapy only works if you go into it with the mindset that it will work and you want it to work. If it is something you think could help you, give it a try. What have you got to lose?

 

[stellabelle]

You could purchase a coloring book and shut yourself inside for a week, that's about the highlight of it all. I was in abusive places that also stole my personal property. I actually managed to run from one, and unfortunately was never able to sue.

Edit: typo

 

[TheCrow]

You could purchase a coloring book and shut yourself inside for a week, that's about the highlight of it all. I was in abusive places that also stole my personal property. I actually managed to run from one, and unfortunately was never able to sue.

Edit: typo

I got shit stolen from me, too! They stole my grandfather's rosary & a shit ton of my benzos that I stupidly brought with me...then I don't bring them with me to another hospital, & they forgot to give them to me & I had a seizure!

 

[Misanthrope]

Hello Final Escape

I wrote somewhat detailed account about my experiences inside a psychiatric unit here. It helped sometimes and made things worse at other times. Boredom regardless was damaging every time. With little to do I spent more time ruminating on the negative more than I would have done if I was out. I have no idea what your experience would consist of. Like most things in life it is a gamble. Whether it is worth it or not you cannot know without rolling the dice in the first place.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/on-safari-in-the-psych-unit.9610/#post-169004

I don't know what your exact situation is either so the suggestions that follow may well have already been tried. Obviously disregard them. None of what I say is magical cure for anything either, and is not meant that way. It is more like suggested weapons in an arsenal.

The problem with inpatient care is it is mostly a triage system, get em in, medicate them into being 'stabilized' then discharge them. It has little in the way of long term value. A private stay will likely cost you a lot in the end.

If you are willing to subject yourself to a hospital experience in pursuit of wellness you may as well subject yourself to other things that have better long term prospects and save hospitalisation as a last resort.

My first suggestion is to simply get a physical screening. Rule out any potential biological issues that may be impacting on your mood. Things like onset diabetes and thyroid issues, lack of various vitamins can also be pretty damaging to mood especially if you stay indoors most the time and eat crap because you are too depressed to do otherwise. All of it can manifest this way.

My other suggestion is to maybe look into a life coach. The reason I suggest this as it is a pretty unregulated field. There is less red tape to contend with. They are not in any formal position to medicate you either. They also have a tendency to focus on the whole of a person and are more proactive and practical about it. Being the motivation you may well not have and helping you get things done. It is also just beneficial to have someone in your corner you can build rapport with that is not driven by target culture. Sure you are paying for the privilege but that is just life.

The next thing I suggest will probably have you rolling your eyes and wanting to punch me in the face. Try and add some form of exercise if you can. Maybe using the life coach to push you to keep at it or maybe even your friend? Stow that fist a moment and let me explain. We live a very sedentary lifestyle these days, it is wholly unnatural to be shut away from sunlight living vicariously through screens. It is extremely damaging to us both mentally and physically. Provoking all sorts of causal links of depression and stroke and other illnesses. The mounting evidence on these connections is hard to ignore. If you want the studies on it I can dig them out.

This is just a personal anecdote, but I did take up swimming as a means to reduce the severity of depression and found it beneficial. At first it was unbelievably hard to motivate myself to do it. I had to break everything down into tiny tasks and just focus on each step one by one until eventually my swimming gear was packed and I was in the car. At first I just floated around wishing I was back in bed. By time I got out though I felt oddly refreshed. I got a friend involved to help me push to go even when I couldn't be bothered and to his credit he did that for me. As time wore on I was doing laps and at the end there was this great feeling that is hard to quantify. I can see why people can get addicted to exercise. I went from it being a brutal ordeal to make myself move enough to something I was excited for, it became a bit of a highlight to spend time with my friend and swim around and then feel good for it.

There are also studies on how that after effect is more effective at reducing depression than many pharmaceuticals with better long term outcomes that don't result in diabetes and liver issues.... Unlike pharmaceuticals there are no real side effects beyond possibly various aches or doing yourself some sort of injury. I understand it is an exceptionally hard thing to do when you can't even be bothered to get out of bed, but the gains can be worth it.

Finally it may be worth getting a therapist of some sort. You can get therapies within a psychiatric setting but they are often limited in scope and take on a group format. Meaning you can be crowded out by more demanding patients. Since hospital stays are not usually all that long you may not get much benefit from a short term approach. If you get your own you are setting the agenda. Not at the mercy of arbitrary limits of how many sessions you can have. If cost is an issue a lot of the larger providers train up students and you could request one of those. Further getting the price lowered by seeing if they accept a sliding scale.

This is my opinion only, but you are likely better served by a therapist that has some sort of evidence based approach. Instead of a therapist you just talk to as a cathartic release. Sure it is nice but it does not arm you with more specific tools that may better serve you in the long run.

I can only really wish you all the best in your journey in whatever form it takes. I wish people did not have to suffer this much in the first place. Death as a choice though is not going anywhere, so it is only logical to exhaust what is out there before ending all avenues of potential in this life for good.

(Sorry my brain is not with it enough to deal with comma placement, nor did I bother to directly cite sources but if you are interested in them I will provide them for you at a later date. Try and be gentle with yourself if you can, peace.)

 

[DeletedUser4739]

Hello Final Escape

I wrote somewhat detailed account about my experiences inside a psychiatric unit here. It helped sometimes and made things worse at other times. Boredom regardless was damaging every time. With little to do I spent more time ruminating on the negative more than I would have done if I was out. I have no idea what your experience would consist of. Like most things in life it is a gamble. Whether it is worth it or not you cannot know without rolling the dice in the first place.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/on-safari-in-the-psych-unit.9610/#post-169004

I don't know what your exact situation is either so the suggestions that follow may well have already been tried. Obviously disregard them. None of what I say is magical cure for anything either, and is not meant that way. It is more like suggested weapons in an arsenal.

The problem with inpatient care is it is mostly a triage system, get em in, medicate them into being 'stabilized' then discharge them. It has little in the way of long term value. A private stay will likely cost you a lot in the end.

If you are willing to subject yourself to a hospital experience in pursuit of wellness you may as well subject yourself to other things that have better long term prospects and save hospitalisation as a last resort.

My first suggestion is to simply get a physical screening. Rule out any potential biological issues that may be impacting on your mood. Things like onset diabetes and thyroid issues, lack of various vitamins can also be pretty damaging to mood especially if you stay indoors most the time and eat crap because you are too depressed to do otherwise. All of it can manifest this way.

My other suggestion is to maybe look into a life coach. The reason I suggest this as it is a pretty unregulated field. There is less red tape to contend with. They are not in any formal position to medicate you either. They also have a tendency to focus on the whole of a person and are more proactive and practical about it. Being the motivation you may well not have and helping you get things done. It is also just beneficial to have someone in your corner you can build rapport with that is not driven by target culture. Sure you are paying for the privilege but that is just life.

The next thing I suggest will probably have you rolling your eyes and wanting to punch me in the face. Try and add some form of exercise if you can. Maybe using the life coach to push you to keep at it or maybe even your friend? Stow that fist a moment and let me explain. We live a very sedentary lifestyle these days, it is wholly unnatural to be shut away from sunlight living vicariously through screens. It is extremely damaging to us both mentally and physically. Provoking all sorts of causal links of depression and stroke and other illnesses. The mounting evidence on these connections is hard to ignore. If you want the studies on it I can dig them out.

This is just a personal anecdote, but I did take up swimming as a means to reduce the severity of depression and found it beneficial. At first it was unbelievably hard to motivate myself to do it. I had to break everything down into tiny tasks and just focus on each step one by one until eventually my swimming gear was packed and I was in the car. At first I just floated around wishing I was back in bed. By time I got out though I felt oddly refreshed. I got a friend involved to help me push to go even when I couldn't be bothered and to his credit he did that for me. As time wore on I was doing laps and at the end there was this great feeling that is hard to quantify. I can see why people can get addicted to exercise. I went from it being a brutal ordeal to make myself move enough to something I was excited for, it became a bit of a highlight to spend time with my friend and swim around and then feel good for it.

There are also studies on how that after effect is more effective at reducing depression than many pharmaceuticals with better long term outcomes that don't result in diabetes and liver issues.... Unlike pharmaceuticals there are no real side effects beyond possibly various aches or doing yourself some sort of injury. I understand it is an exceptionally hard thing to do when you can't even be bothered to get out of bed, but the gains can be worth it.

Finally it may be worth getting a therapist of some sort. You can get therapies within a psychiatric setting but they are often limited in scope and take on a group format. Meaning you can be crowded out by more demanding patients. Since hospital stays are not usually all that long you may not get much benefit from a short term approach. If you get your own you are setting the agenda. Not at the mercy of arbitrary limits of how many sessions you can have. If cost is an issue a lot of the larger providers train up students and you could request one of those. Further getting the price lowered by seeing if they accept a sliding scale.

This is my opinion only, but you are likely better served by a therapist that has some sort of evidence based approach. Instead of a therapist you just talk to as a cathartic release. Sure it is nice but it does not arm you with more specific tools that may better serve you in the long run.

I can only really wish you all the best in your journey in whatever form it takes. I wish people did not have to suffer this much in the first place. Death as a choice though is not going anywhere, so it is only logical to exhaust what is out there before ending all avenues of potential in this life for good.

(Sorry my brain is not with it enough to deal with comma placement, nor did I bother to directly cite sources but if you are interested in them I will provide them for you at a later date. Try and be gentle with yourself if you can, peace.)

This is great information. Thank you for taking the time to write it all out and explain it. Good stuff here.

 

[Final Escape]

Hello Final Escape

I wrote somewhat detailed account about my experiences inside a psychiatric unit here. It helped sometimes and made things worse at other times. Boredom regardless was damaging every time. With little to do I spent more time ruminating on the negative more than I would have done if I was out. I have no idea what your experience would consist of. Like most things in life it is a gamble. Whether it is worth it or not you cannot know without rolling the dice in the first place.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/on-safari-in-the-psych-unit.9610/#post-169004

I don't know what your exact situation is either so the suggestions that follow may well have already been tried. Obviously disregard them. None of what I say is magical cure for anything either, and is not meant that way. It is more like suggested weapons in an arsenal.

The problem with inpatient care is it is mostly a triage system, get em in, medicate them into being 'stabilized' then discharge them. It has little in the way of long term value. A private stay will likely cost you a lot in the end.

If you are willing to subject yourself to a hospital experience in pursuit of wellness you may as well subject yourself to other things that have better long term prospects and save hospitalisation as a last resort.

My first suggestion is to simply get a physical screening. Rule out any potential biological issues that may be impacting on your mood. Things like onset diabetes and thyroid issues, lack of various vitamins can also be pretty damaging to mood especially if you stay indoors most the time and eat crap because you are too depressed to do otherwise. All of it can manifest this way.

My other suggestion is to maybe look into a life coach. The reason I suggest this as it is a pretty unregulated field. There is less red tape to contend with. They are not in any formal position to medicate you either. They also have a tendency to focus on the whole of a person and are more proactive and practical about it. Being the motivation you may well not have and helping you get things done. It is also just beneficial to have someone in your corner you can build rapport with that is not driven by target culture. Sure you are paying for the privilege but that is just life.

The next thing I suggest will probably have you rolling your eyes and wanting to punch me in the face. Try and add some form of exercise if you can. Maybe using the life coach to push you to keep at it or maybe even your friend? Stow that fist a moment and let me explain. We live a very sedentary lifestyle these days, it is wholly unnatural to be shut away from sunlight living vicariously through screens. It is extremely damaging to us both mentally and physically. Provoking all sorts of causal links of depression and stroke and other illnesses. The mounting evidence on these connections is hard to ignore. If you want the studies on it I can dig them out.

This is just a personal anecdote, but I did take up swimming as a means to reduce the severity of depression and found it beneficial. At first it was unbelievably hard to motivate myself to do it. I had to break everything down into tiny tasks and just focus on each step one by one until eventually my swimming gear was packed and I was in the car. At first I just floated around wishing I was back in bed. By time I got out though I felt oddly refreshed. I got a friend involved to help me push to go even when I couldn't be bothered and to his credit he did that for me. As time wore on I was doing laps and at the end there was this great feeling that is hard to quantify. I can see why people can get addicted to exercise. I went from it being a brutal ordeal to make myself move enough to something I was excited for, it became a bit of a highlight to spend time with my friend and swim around and then feel good for it.

There are also studies on how that after effect is more effective at reducing depression than many pharmaceuticals with better long term outcomes that don't result in diabetes and liver issues.... Unlike pharmaceuticals there are no real side effects beyond possibly various aches or doing yourself some sort of injury. I understand it is an exceptionally hard thing to do when you can't even be bothered to get out of bed, but the gains can be worth it.

Finally it may be worth getting a therapist of some sort. You can get therapies within a psychiatric setting but they are often limited in scope and take on a group format. Meaning you can be crowded out by more demanding patients. Since hospital stays are not usually all that long you may not get much benefit from a short term approach. If you get your own you are setting the agenda. Not at the mercy of arbitrary limits of how many sessions you can have. If cost is an issue a lot of the larger providers train up students and you could request one of those. Further getting the price lowered by seeing if they accept a sliding scale.

This is my opinion only, but you are likely better served by a therapist that has some sort of evidence based approach. Instead of a therapist you just talk to as a cathartic release. Sure it is nice but it does not arm you with more specific tools that may better serve you in the long run.

I can only really wish you all the best in your journey in whatever form it takes. I wish people did not have to suffer this much in the first place. Death as a choice though is not going anywhere, so it is only logical to exhaust what is out there before ending all avenues of potential in this life for good.

(Sorry my brain is not with it enough to deal with comma placement, nor did I bother to directly cite sources but if you are interested in them I will provide them for you at a later date. Try and be gentle with yourself if you can, peace.)

Thank u so much :) I just love the people here. I feel so supported even if it's just through here and not in person.

 

[peachesNpoison]

My friend thinks I need to do this and was wondering if anybody benefited from this? What happens in there? Did u get a hefty medical bill? Did you get better?

I would never go through an experience like that again if I have a choice.

 

[TheCrow]

This is great information. Thank you for taking the time to write it all out and explain it. Good stuff here.

I was just going to write the same thing! Seriously, @Misanthrope, thank you!

 

[Suicide47]

I went November for a week and a half and December for 4 days. It's kinda like they throw you in a cheap hotel (the hospital) with other patients who are crazy or suicidal too. And you can go to group and chat about either your problems or whatever the lady has planned for the day. When I went I asked to do arts and crafts and now they continue to do that. Anyways, they basically put you on meds and then keep you there to see how your body reacts to the meds and then let you leave after setting you up with doctors in the real world

 

[sif]

In my opinion, if you're considering having yourself admitted, the most important thing to do is research specifically the potential wards and hostpitals in which you might be placed. I have had multiple stays and it wasn't until I was halfway through my last stay that a family member decided to actually google the hospital I was staying in. It came back with 2/5 star average reviews, talk of murders and deaths linked with the hospital. The reviews were sickening and bad, but didn't even scratch the surface of how bad the place actually was to experience.

People tend to have different experiences and you will always have some people say that it's been helpful and some people say it is endlessly damaging, but this is for involuntary treatment generally. If you're considering voluntary treatment then please please just do what I said and research your options so you can rule out the real dangers and steer your initial experience in the direction of the good ones and not the lifelong traumatic ones. Good luck