ChristopherWalken

ChristopherWalken

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I can't be the only person who thought this. When I saw on the news about the shootings in El Paso I wished that I could have been there to shield people from the bullets. I wished it could have been me instead. A while back I was googling "most dangerous jobs" and came up with lumberjack. But what I'm really interested in is like a job with at least 20% mortality rate not a piddling 1% or whatever, that's going to take forever. Any ideas? I'd love to go out a hero instead of the loser that I am. Are there some areas where someone could go do something stupidly heroic that ended up costing them their life?
 
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Lookingforabus

Lookingforabus

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Aug 6, 2019
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Not many options for that in Western countries. Even if you managed to get a combat deployment in the military, your odds of dying are quite low, and that's about as good as it gets. Not to mention, who's the last war hero you can name who gave his life for his fellow soldiers, democracy and the American Dream? A hero's death is worth 15 minutes of fame and a free burial.

Most of the world is more lethal, though... you could simply move to almost anywhere in Sub Saharan Africa, or a lot of the Middle East (I hear Lybia's beautiful this time of year), or get a job running drugs in Central/South America so a rival cartel takes you out, or most of South East Asia so their government does it for you. (The Philipines is lovely, and someone's certain to kill you for dealing drugs there). Not heroic by most people's definitions, but you could always say you're doing charity work, and some (small portion) of folks think that risking death to sell products people want to the people willing to buy them at risk of death is heroic, even if those products are vilified, but delightful recreational chemicals.

If none of that appeals, you could always do human rights related things in parts of the world where such things frequently result in death. A friend of a friend went to North Korea to essentially spy for Amnesty International, and hasn't been heard from in several years, so it's pretty clear what happened to him. Being an anti-Putin journalist in Russia is highly fatal as well. For that matter, you could go campaign for gay rights in Saudi Arabia, democracy and anti-corruption in Venezuela or be a Christian missionary in Indonesia. You wouldn't be looking at a quick, clean death, but you'd probably be hailed as a hero in these parts if/when your death gets noticed.

Sadly, Western governments are just smarter about such things. No sense in making a martyr of someone when you can assassinate their character and throw them in prison for life instead, so you'd have to travel abroad.

If that all sounds a bit fantastical, that's because the idea is fantastical, for the most part. Wanting a meaningful, heroic death is pretty common, actually achieving it is damn near impossible. Better to live a good life and help your loved ones (who deserve it more than some random cause or folks you don't know) than go out in a blaze of glory that inevitably goes unappreciated and is quickly forgotten by ungrateful strangers.
 
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ChristopherWalken

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I wouldn't really care whether I got famous for it or if anyone appreciated it. i would just be happy if my family could be proud of me instead of ashamed of me. I can't travel abroad so it'd have to be something here in the states. Maybe my prayers will be answered and I'll be in the right place at the right time.
 
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I know someone who stopped his car on an overpass to help another driver, and after he'd taken him to get gas and brought him back, a third driver bumped both of them over the barrier. They fell 12m or so to the street below and were run over by a fourth car.

That guy went out like an angel, unless you count the number if traumatised people who had no intention of killing anyone or watching people die. Still, his intentions were about as pure as they get.

Maybe going forth in the world seeking to help others is a better aim to start with than seeking to die while doing so.
 
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calendulo

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Jun 13, 2019
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I do not know if will be another people who are thinking in the same way like you. The idea is absurded itself in my opinion.
If someone wants to kill himself, does it and does not think that could do it anyone else or worse yet, in a massive shooting.

Suicide is a private act, whoever takes that decision, would do it her/himself. Anything else is not suicide, will be other thing, a hallucination maybe.
 
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sleepless

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Aug 1, 2018
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If you really want to commit a heroic act, you can consider donate blood, bone marrow or even organs before you go.
 
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ManWithNoName

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A hero's death is worth 15 minutes of fame and a free burial.

If that all sounds a bit fantastical, that's because the idea is fantastical, for the most part. Wanting a meaningful, heroic death is pretty common, actually achieving it is damn near impossible. Better to live a good life and help your loved ones (who deserve it more than some random cause or folks you don't know) than go out in a blaze of glory that inevitably goes unappreciated and is quickly forgotten by ungrateful strangers.
Let's add in too that even over time (long term) some heroes of the past get re-designated as non heroes, or villains as the zeitgeist shifts and good folks from one era get demonized in another era.
Suicide is a private act, whoever takes that decision, would do it her/himself. Anything else is not suicide, will be other thing, a hallucination maybe.
Agreed that suicide is a private act. I do wonder what goes through the mind of those who video themselves carrying out their self deliverance.
 
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