Help Blood loss by sticking a needle?

[Ginnn]

I've heard about this method, but couldn't find any detailed information. I read that you need to take an anticoagulant, stick a needle into some major vein or artery, let it bleed and wait for a completely peaceful death. Does anyone know about this? Or maybe link a thread that explains it

 

[MidnightDream]

Not sure that sounds like it would be particularly peaceful..

 

[Someone123]

It sounds very unrealistic- even when people cut themselves the success rate is under 2%.

 

[counting-out-time]

A time I tried to top myself by cutting my wrists almost worked. Say in a bush in the middle of nowhere. I had a few shots of spirits and just started slashing them. After 30mins I started feeling faint and any noises I heard made me panic and ended up feeling really faint. The problem I had was the cuts kept clotting so the body's natural way to stop losing so much blood. After 2 hours of waiting to die I gave up and went home. Trying to explain why I was looking like I murdered someone was hard to explain.

 

[jodes2]

I saw somewhere someone tried to do it and it wasn't successful, but it would have been peaceful

 

[achromatic]

Sounds super unreliable and hard to execute

 

[counting-out-time]

I saw somewhere someone tried to do it and it wasn't successful, but it would have been peaceful

I'm a genius! I just thought what if you buy one of them machines that the people use when you donate blood. Not sure what it's called but takes blood and it goes into a bag.

Get the machine home. Stick the needle in somewhere and plug it in. Then it's just a matter of time before it's lights out and can even leave a note on the side asking to unplug the machine after the body is found

 

[jodes2]

I'm a genius! I just thought what if you buy one of them machines that the people use when you donate blood. Not sure what it's called but takes blood and it goes into a bag.

Get the machine home. Stick the needle in somewhere and plug it in. Then it's just a matter of time before it's lights out and can even leave a note on the side asking to unplug the machine after the body is found

I don't know if the body protects itself from blood loss some how, I think it does

 

[Someone123]

I'm a genius! I just thought what if you buy one of them machines that the people use when you donate blood. Not sure what it's called but takes blood and it goes into a bag.

Get the machine home. Stick the needle in somewhere and plug it in. Then it's just a matter of time before it's lights out and can even leave a note on the side asking to unplug the machine after the body is found

Those machines have a natural cutoff of one pint, there is no wazy they would just keep going and going until a person dies.

 

[counting-out-time]

Good point unless you put a timer on it to keep resetting itself when it's to the cut off point

 

[Someone123]

Good point unless you put a timer on it to keep resetting itself when it's to the cut off point

I think this would not be possible- I think they would have strong safeguards to prevent this- you would have to be a high functioning engineer to have any chance to be able to figure out the safeguards of the machine and to see if you could override them- it seems unlikely to be able to do this without deep knowledge o0f how the maschine works and what the safeguards are that they have in place. Are you are very high level, very experienced engineer? If not I think you would not be able to dissect this machine and figure out the safeguards and ovverride them. Honestly these safeguards are likely programmed into the machine, and there would be no timer that could ovcerride the programming of the machine.

 

[counting-out-time]

Well what about sticking in a needle and connect the other end to a hoover. Guess it does the same job. Bloody hell all I ever think about is ways to kill myself as soon as possible.

 

[makethepainstop]

Had some experience with exanguination, or bleeding out. Had a bladder problem, was catheterized, bleeding got worse, was sent home from hospital. Four months later the leg bag I was wearing,(remember the catheter), was looking like all blood and damn little urine. A few weeks later I was so tired it took me three hours to dress to go to the hospital. Now here my friends when the fun really got going! I was shaking so damn bad, I thought I might start having seizures. As I was continuing to bleed into that damn leg bag..... I kept shaking and shaking,(loved to have had a tambourine). Then I started passing out. They couldn't get an IV into me. So they had to call in a specialist, guy dressed in a red medical uniform comes in and as I came to for a moment asks, me to stop shaking, as hg e was placing a four inch long catheter into the INSIDE my arm under the arm pit? He asks me if I could stop shaking as he didn't want to,"nick an artery!" ( A week and a few days later, it hurt like hell when the removed that damn catheter). As I keep passing in and out I was still shaking. At one point I came to and told the female nurse I thought I was dying of covid, as my lungs hurt like someone was sticking knives into them. The sweet little nurse said "It's not covid, you going to hypovolemic shock, you have lost over half of your blood volume." Now had I not been shaking uncontrollably, and comming to where each breath was agony, I would have been happy to go ahead and bleed out. The internal problem causing the bleeding, was not painful,but the seizure like shaking and the agony of every breath was very painful, for the few times I came to. So I want you to know as much as I like the idea of bleeding out, the effects of bleeding out are not fun. Although bleeding out quickly might make it easier......a needle might not allow enough blood volume to escape before your discovered. (Some of you may wonder why I didn't just stay home and bleed out? My fear of brain damage, stopped that)! Much love to each and everyone of you!

 

[Someone123]

Well what about sticking in a needle and connect the other end to a hoover. Guess it does the same job. Bloody hell all I ever think about is ways to kill myself as soon as possible.

I unjderstand that you are in pain and you want to find peace, but thinking of unrealistic methds won't help. I( hope you can find peace.

 

[willitpass]

blood loss is an unpleasant experience. when i donated blood i felt extremely cold and hot at the same time, i was clammy, i was shaking uncontrollably, almost threw up. it was not a fun experience and i can imagine it only gets worse the more blood you lose

 

[spacehardware]

This is called bloodletting, and I believe there has been at least one recorded death from it, but I don't think there are many. The one I remember reading about died after falling unconscious due to blood loss, and the blood loss continued until death. Blood has a remarkable ability to clot but I don't know how an anticoagulant would affect this method. I'd say it's definitely not the most reliable though. And from someone who used to self-harm in a similar way, you'd be surprised how much blood is in your body, and how much you can lose before you really even start to feel it.

 

[Smart No More]

There are needles you can insert into a vein and leave open and thw blood just pours out but as people touched upon, it's not pleasant, fast or certain. A single tap/needle would almost certainly end up clogged and. Using multiple needles might speed things along but at a certain point your blood pressure is so low that veins start colapsing and the blood doesn't pour out the same way. This is why animals are bled hanging up, using gravity. Otherwise a lot of blood would remain in them and clot. Losing blood very rapidly (like within 5 min) might be relatively peaceful by comparison to some methods but the longer it goes on (and generally bleeding out takes a long time) the more horrible the experience will be. Think of it like a cut. When you slice yourself accidentally it almost doesn't hurt right away. Were you to make the same cut very slowly it would be excruciating in comparison.

@makethepainstop Your recounting of that experience sends chills through me. That must have horrific. Can't believe they asked you to stop shaking lol. As if you were doing it intentionally. How is your bladder now? Were those problems resolved. Sounds like you went through some serious stuff!

 

[whywere]

Bleeding out has a likelihood of a very little chance of succeeding. Even in the 1% chance of it working it would be a very long and very agonizing way to go.

Please be careful.

Walter

 

[Forever Sleep]

blood loss is an unpleasant experience. when i donated blood i felt extremely cold and hot at the same time, i was clammy, i was shaking uncontrollably, almost threw up. it was not a fun experience and i can imagine it only gets worse the more blood you lose

I think it's different for every person. I used to donate regularly and the actual process didn't bother me at all. I used to wonder (hope)- if they left me long enough whether I would just bleed out and die but I expect people here are right- there's bound to be a cutoff mechanism. I did feel tired afterwards though and all my jobs have been physically taxing, so I stopped doing it.

 

[g0921]

It is my dream way to go too. But SN is more reliable, after learning how difficult it is to success X_X

 

[Someone123]

I think it's different for every person. I used to donate regularly and the actual process didn't bother me at all. I used to wonder (hope)- if they left me long enough whether I would just bleed out and die but I expect people here are right- there's bound to be a cutoff mechanism. I did feel tired afterwards though and all my jobs have been physically taxing, so I stopped doing it.

Donating blood is completely different though- you are donating an amount of blood that the human body can donate without distress. As the blood loss gets more and more it gets much worse. BLeeding out through a needle with not work. For peopel who sever a main artery it can work, but it is not easy to do. Cutting as a method works less than 2% of the time in the u.s.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Donating blood is completely different though- you are donating an amount of blood that the human body can donate without distress. As the blood loss gets more and more it gets much worse. BLeeding out through a needle with not work. For peopel who sever a main artery it can work, but it is not easy to do. Cutting as a method works less than 2% of the time in the u.s.

I'm absolutely sure you're right- I'm sure just bleeding out through some home made effort would be massively distressing and would likely fail... Just like cutting usually does- as you said.

My response was primarily to a person who had a really distressing time giving blood. I'm really sorry for them but I was just trying to say- that isn't the experience for everyone.

I fully realise it's probably not a setup you could create at home. I guess it did cross my mind what kind of death that would be though- if it were possible- whether you would pass out before experiencing any pain. I'm sure a lot of us have fantasized about any method we could come up with.

Just looked up Hemorrhagic or hypovolemic shock and yes- you're right- doesn't seem at all peaceful- especially if the blood loss is slow.