Blood donation

[Onlyborrowedtime]

The mods might delete this I'd they think it's too preachy. Please consider donating blood if you have the capacity to, before CTB. It only takes about an hour and even if you feel your life isn't worth saving, you could save someone else's.

Moreover you increase your chances of success for most types of CTB and decrease your chance of survival if you fail. While your blood volume replaces in 48ish hours, your red blood cells don't replace fully for 4-8 weeks. You limit your body's capacity to move oxygen as efficiently to your parts of you body following blood donation (hence why athletes don't tend to give blood).

Maybe someone will correct me if I'm wrong (I'm no biologist). But to me it seems like this:

Pros
Increase chance of CTB success with methods that affect the blood (e.g. SN, blood letting)
Decrease chance of survival of a failed method (e.g. surviving a jump or gunshot)
Help save the life of another person (that person could go on to create a legal painless quick suicide we all crave)

Cons
Takes about an hour of your time + travel.
The person you save might turn out to be the next Hitler.

I can only speak for my country but they weren't to invasive into my medical history. Essentially just making sure I had mental capacity and I wasn't infected.

 

[Iloveyouall]

The mods might delete this I'd they think it's too preachy. Please consider donating blood if you have the capacity to, before CTB. It only takes about an hour and even if you feel your life isn't worth saving, you could save someone else's.

Moreover you increase your chances of success for most types of CTB and decrease your chance of survival if you fail. While your blood volume replaces in 48ish hours, your red blood cells don't replace fully for 4-8 weeks. You limit your body's capacity to move oxygen as efficiently to your parts of you body following blood donation (hence why athletes don't tend to give blood).

Maybe someone will correct me if I'm wrong (I'm no biologist). But to me it seems like this:

Pros
Increase chance of CTB success with methods that affect the blood (e.g. SN, blood letting)
Decrease chance of survival of a failed method (e.g. surviving a jump or gunshot)
Help save the life of another person (that person could go on to create a legal painless quick suicide we all crave)

Cons
Takes about an hour of your time + travel.
The person you save might turn out to be the next Hitler.

I can only speak for my country but they weren't to invasive into my medical history. Essentially just making sure I had mental capacity and I wasn't infected.

Interesting idea but I'm not sure it's safe for the receiver if you are on medication.

 

[Onlyborrowedtime]

Interesting idea but I'm not sure it's safe for the receiver if you are on medication.

From my understanding it depends what medication you are on. They usually ask you to declare if you're on medication beforehand to determine whether you can donate or not. For example a sleep aid like zopiclone is probably fine. 80mg of Prozac might not be. This is just a speculation. I am not clinically trained in anyway.

 

[calendulo]

Moreover you increase your chances of success for most types of CTB and decrease your chance of survival if you fail.

Actually, I did not understand the whole post, but this sentence is totally unkown for me and maybe it has a meaning what I do not can to see.
i have played footbal games after to donate blood, well when I was younger, now I couldn 't........
Besides, the quantity of donated blood is related with your weight, I think it was around a quarter of a litre...

 

[Iloveyouall]

They usually ask you to declare if you're on medication beforehand

They ask but they can't check if it's true. Not accusing anyone from lying or willing to put other people's life in danger here, but as you said some people could want to give their blood anyway, just to increase chances of ctb. Besides that, as a person going to ctb, some might be in an "unstable" mental state and forget about the meds they took.

 

[Onlyborrowedtime]

Actually, I did not understand the whole post, but this sentence is totally unkown for me and maybe it has a meaning what I do not can to see.
i have played footbal games after to donate blood, well when I was younger, now I couldn 't........
Besides, the quantity of donated blood is related with your weight, I think it was around a quarter of a litre...

I am willing to be corrected if I am wrong here but this is my understanding. When you donate blood your hemoglobin level drops by around 10g/l. This causes less oxygen to be carried round your body each pump. This allows methods which would cause death by lack of oxygen getting round your body to be more effective as you're already being slightly less efficient than normal.

I'm not saying that you can never return to sport, but your performance will have decreased because your body can't get oxygen to you muscles as quickly. This is untill about 8 weeks pass when your red blood cells count returns to normal and you go back to "normal fitness"

The volume doesn't matter as it's replaced within 48hrs. What matters is the oxygen carrying cells in your blood. And actually they didn't weigh me before taking my blood so I'm not sure it is relative.

They ask but they can't check if it's true. Not accusing anyone from lying or willing to put other people's life in danger here, but as you said some people could want to give their blood anyway, just to increase chances of ctb. Besides that, as a person going to ctb, some might be in an "unstable" mental state and forget about the meds they took.

I can only speak from my experience with my healthcare. They actually take two lots of blood from you. One small sample is taken and sent off for testing presumably to make sure you're not infected or lying. Then the large sample is taken.

Relying on people to be honest is something no one has control over unfortunately. I assume there must be safeguards in place otherwise people with HIV could donate and deliberately infect people. I don't think people on this forum are particular interested in destroying other people's lives either.

I unfortunately can't provide clinical answers. I don't even know what % increase this would give you interns of CTB. It was just a suggestion which, logically, would increase your CTB success rate for those who are able to. I do not condone anyone who deliberately donated blood without disclosing anything that could potentially cause harm to others.

 

[calendulo]

I am willing to be corrected if I am wrong here but this is my understanding. When you donate blood your hemoglobin level drops by around 10g/l. This causes less oxygen to be carried round your body each pump. This allows methods which would cause death by lack of oxygen getting round your body to be more effective as you're already being slightly less efficient than normal.

I'm not saying that you can never return to sport, but your performance will have decreased because your body can't get oxygen to you muscles as quickly. This is untill about 8 weeks pass when your red blood cells count returns to normal and you go back to "normal fitness"

The volume doesn't matter as it's replaced within 48hrs. What matters is the oxygen carrying cells in your blood. And actually they didn't weigh me before taking my blood so I'm not sure it is relative.

You are not wrong, it is your opinion and such opinion is free and personal.

What it happens I do not think that there was any method related with have o have not certain blood level inside your body, well bleed out yourself, I guess.
Safe drugs, barbiturates and benzos; there is not relationship between; and Toxics use to block vital organs or to produce any illness. Only SN is related, but it is just a huge anemia.

And about mechanics methods, I am not sure about.

 

[Onlyborrowedtime]

You are not wrong, it is your opinion and such opinion is free and personal.

What it happens I do not think that there was any method related with have o have not certain blood level inside your body, well bleed out yourself, I guess.
Safe drugs, barbiturates and benzos; there is not relationship between; and Toxics use to block vital organs or to produce any illness. Only SN is related, but it is just a huge anemia.

And about mechanics methods, I am not sure about.

N might be the exception as I haven't looked into the pharmacology of it. However for SN, bloodletting, hanging, drowning, CO all essentially limit oxygen to your brain. Less red blood cells make that eaiser to achieve.

It will also decrease your survival after jumping, gunshot, train as you are already slight anaemic.

However you are right this will not help some methods which are not blood related, however I feel they are less common then ones that have some blood interaction.

 

[calendulo]

N might be the exception as I haven't looked into the pharmacology of it. However for SN, bloodletting, hanging, drowning, CO all essentially limit oxygen to your brain. Less red blood cells make that eaiser to achieve.

It will also decrease your survival after jumping, gunshot, train as you are already slight anaemic.

However you are right this will not help some methods which are not blood related, however I feel they are less common then ones that have some blood interaction.

About jumping and according my little experience, in this forum there is certain degree of agreement or consensus that is more important the time spent until to dead or height stories than your volume.

There would be an intense debate about. More interesting, of course.

 

[Onlyborrowedtime]

About jumping and according my little experience, in this forum there is certain degree of agreement or consensus that is more important the time spent until to dead or height stories than your volume.

There would be an intense debate about. More interesting, of course.

The hight is the most important factor is makeing sure you die on impact. If you had less red blood cells it would decrease the time you needed before you died. Or at the very least would allow you to lose consciousness quicker so you wouldn't feel the pain

 

[k75]

This is something worth considering for the people who really want to donate organs but won't be able to due to suicide. It's not an organ, but it will help someone else in need.

 

[Thereisnothing]

I cant be a blood donor as too ill and on far too many prescribed drugs. Also my veins are bad, takes ages to get a blood test done, they just get worse and worse. Many lives are saved from donated blood and organs of course.

 

[Onlyborrowedtime]

I cant be a blood donor as too ill and on far too many prescribed drugs. Many lives are saved from donated blood and organs of course.

I am sorry to hear that. I do feel a little bad posting this topic as I know not everyone has the opportunity to donate. But even if 1/10 of the people who saw this website donated pre-emiting CTB it would make a massive difference.

I think donating organs is another amazing think you can do. I didn't mention it in the post as I think unfortunately most methods ruin organ's..... although I guess if you were 100% serious you could donate a kidney while still alive or something

 

[Sensei]

I wanted to donate blood, but was turned down due to my medication. I take lamotrigine and lithium. I don't know about other medicines.

 

[Lara Francis]

This is the most imaginate reason ive heard to donate blood as a means to aid SN suicide.!!

 

[k75]

I think donating organs is another amazing think you can do. I didn't mention it in the post as I think unfortunately most methods ruin organ's..... although I guess if you were 100% serious you could donate a kidney while still alive or something

Sadly, the majority of successful suicides make organ donation impossible, because you must die in a hospital. They can't harvest anything but corneas from a corpse. Living donation of a couple is always there, though, like you said. Kidney and liver, I believe?

 

[gnomeboy17]

Please consider donating blood if you have the capacity to, before CTB. It only takes about an hour and even if you feel your life isn't worth saving, you could save someone else's.

Pros
Increase chance of CTB success with methods that affect the blood (e.g. SN, blood letting)
Decrease chance of survival of a failed method (e.g. surviving a jump or gunshot)
Help save the life of another person (that person could go on to create a legal painless quick suicide we all crave)

Really nice idea! Thank you for this!

 

[mesohappy]

I really like the idea behind this thread/post..Alot.It has stimulated a different thought process in me over the last 24hours.A different perspective.Thanks.

 

[k75]

I wanted to donate blood, but was turned down due to my medication. I take lamotrigine and lithium. I don't know about other medicines.

Damn. I take lithium. I guess that alone would disqualify me?

 

[Sensei]

Damn. I take lithium. I guess that alone would disqualify me?

I googled it and there seems to be very different standards when it comes to lithium. I don't know what the rules say in your country.

 

[k75]

I googled it and there seems to be very different standards when it comes to lithium. I don't know what the rules say in your country.

I guess I could just not be lazy and research it too. What a novel idea. LOL

 

[painoflife]

Damn. I take lithium. I guess that alone would disqualify me?

I am in the UK and contacted the NHS blood donation people to ask about donating while taking lithium and they said you can still donate as long as your iron is fine

 

[thereisnoneed]

hey will that be helpful with the hanging method ?

 

[Onlyborrowedtime]

hey will that be helpful with the hanging method ?

Depends on the hanging method. For full suspension this would make no difference (however I'd still encourage donation).

For partial/suffocation it would help. You would have less red blood available to carring oxygen in your brain. Therefore you would use up the limited supply quicker, black out quicker and die quicker.

Easiest way to think about it is "instead of having a normal 100 oxygen blood cells you only have 90" causing your body to start with less oxygen.

 

[lydia0315]

really want to donate blood, but underweight all these years

 

[Ghost2211]

This is an awesome thing to bring up. Saving lives is an awesome thing to do, and goodness knows the donating blood does that every day. Unfortunately due to the fact that I have chronically low blood pressure and anemia they won't let me donate blood, but it would be very cool to do so.

 

[Midnight-rain]

I actually am a blood donor already! It's beyond satisfying to know I'm helping other people. I will donate as much as I can before ctbing.

 

[Onlyborrowedtime]

I'm glad to see so many positive people in the community trying to help others! Even if you can't donate making others aware of this makes a difference!

 

[BPD Barbie]

From my understanding it depends what medication you are on. They usually ask you to declare if you're on medication beforehand to determine whether you can donate or not. For example a sleep aid like zopiclone is probably fine. 80mg of Prozac might not be. This is just a speculation. I am not clinically trained in anyway.

And health conditions stop it also. I used to donate but got diagnosed with Crohns disease and immunosuppression to treat it meant no more blood from me. I enjoyed doing it, it's nice to give something back.

 

[Onlyborrowedtime]

And health conditions stop it also. I used to donate but got diagnosed with Crohns disease and immunosuppression to treat it meant no more blood from me. I enjoyed doing it, it's nice to give something back.

Oh I'm sorry to hear that. In glad you were able to do some! If it save one person, it may have already snowball to there family donating which snowball etc.
I should make an update here having done slightly more research. If you are planning to jump+gunshot+train+bleeding out the platelet and normal donation maybe be more appropriate. Platelets reduce you ability to clot your blood. This means if your method fails you blood will almost certainly not clit effectively allowed you to bleed out. (Especially useful for cutting and bleeding.


BE WARNED. While red blood cell count takes about 4-8, weeks to return to normal. Platelets do in 3-4 days. So it needed to be done nearer the time.