Beware of gunshots

[LADY007]

BEWARE OF GUNSHOTS !!!

 

[Sherri]

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BEWARE OF GUNSHOTS !!!

That's true , seen a lot of people on documentaries that survived that type of injury.

 

[FuneralCry]

If I actually had access to a gun I do not think I would ever be able to use it to ctb, I would be worried of it going wrong in some way and it seems like a brutal method. I just want to exit this world peacefully with no chance of failure. It is a cruel world we live in where people are denied the option of euthanasia and they have to resort to methods that can fail.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I flinch way too easily to use a gun.

I do kind of wonder how you shoot yourself in the temple and end up with only minor issues.

 

[Manaaja]

Yeah, I have read that it should be positioned carefully.

I have also heard rumors that there are some pretty awful photos of people who have lost their faces in gunshots and survived. I don't dare to look.

 

[LADY007]

That's true , seen a lot of people on documentaries that survived that type of injury.

I am begging members here to realize that shooting doesn't always happen as it does in the movies. I have a. 38 caliber revolver and hollow point bullets but I would never rely on that. My research has uncovered too many people with half of a face left from shooting themselves. My choice is nitrogen. I only posted this because I have never seen a real testimonial from a group that large.

I flinch way too easily to use a gun.

I do kind of wonder how you shoot yourself in the temple and end up with only minor issues.

My .38 revolver has a 5 lb pull for a trigger. I use 2 hands holding it at the gun range. It is way too easy to aim it straight but pulling the trigger so it angles up and into a path that misses the vital area.

Yeah, I have read that it should be positioned carefully.

I have also heard rumors that there are some pretty awful photos of people who have lost their faces in gunshots and survived. I don't dare to look.

Those pictures are what I am talking about! I would love to know that it was foolproof using a gun. I have had my revolver for 6 years with a permit to carry in my ankle holster but after researching and seeing the failures (and distorted faces I want to be clear.. it is not a sure thing.

Yeah, I have read that it should be positioned carefully.

I have also heard rumors that there are some pretty awful photos of people who have lost their faces in gunshots and survived. I don't dare to look.

The pictures are after the person had been stitched back together. They look like terribly stitched cabbage patch dolls. As in... They walk into a restaurant and people would cringe and look away. Please just be aware of this when you think of ctb.

 

[Manaaja]

I am begging members here to realize that shooting doesn't always happen as it does in the movies. I have a. 38 caliber revolver and hollow point bullets but I would never rely on that. My research has uncovered too many people with half of a face left from shooting themselves. My choice is nitrogen. I only posted this because I have never seen a real testimonial from a group that large.

My .38 revolver has a 5 lb pull for a trigger. I use 2 hands holding it at the gun range. It is way too easy to aim it straight but pulling the trigger so it angles up and into a path that misses the vital area.

Those pictures are what I am talking about! I would love to know that it was foolproof using a gun. I have had my revolver for 6 years with a permit to carry in my ankle holster but after researching and seeing the failures (and distorted faces I want to be clear.. it is not a sure thing.

I also wonder if it depends on bullet sizes and the type of gun used, but I don't know.

I remember seeing a long time ago some really detailed guide that told where to point the gun at, but I don't remember much about it anymore.

It's still odd how much the brain can take damage and survive.

 

[whatevs]

It's just a matter of caliber/potency, I would say, without knowing jack shit of the matter. I have seen videos where the head is simply emptied like a balloon by a shotgun.

 

[rationaldeath]

It all comes down to aim, if you actually hit the brainstem I don't think it's possible to survive (at least not that i've heard of). Higher caliber will give you a bigger margin of error.

 

[LADY007]

It's just a matter of caliber/potency, I would say, without knowing jack shit of the matter. I have seen videos where the head is simply emptied like a balloon by a shotgun.

Yup.. Not much question about a shot gun.. But hand guns??? Not foolproof by any means... Especially if you have no experience.

 

[demuic]

Yup.. Not much question about a shot gun.. But hand guns??? Not foolproof by any means... Especially if you have no experience.

Yeah, I think the risk of surviving increases by a lot when it is someone with no experience or prior training with guns who attempts with a gun. I have very rarely seen failures from those in professions where they are highly trained in using guns.

 

[myopybyproxy]

Correct for the upward flinch by aiming slightly lower than is necessary - and also with a large enough calibre, aim is not even a factor (eg cannon shot).

 

[TheresNoDoOver333]

Yup.. Not much question about a shot gun.. But hand guns??? Not foolproof by any means... Especially if you have no experience.

There has been instance, a decent amount even where the indivdual has survived shotgun and merely is put on life support/having blown there face off. Is there anything that increases certainty/lethality?

 

[dreadpirateroberts69]

The pictures are after the person had been stitched back together. They look like terribly stitched cabbage patch dolls. As in... They walk into a restaurant and people would cringe and look away. Please just be aware of this when you think of ctb.

Ok, this thread sent me down a rabbithole of trying to find pics like this, and I ended up coming across this fascinating article:

Man left with just a forehead, eyeballs and tongue reveals incredible recovery

Cameron Underwood has had a ground-breaking face transplant after he shot himself in the face.

metro.co.uk

The guy in this article does look incredible after, I imagine most people who try to blow their brains out and happen to survive probably don't have access to such advanced surgeries. Also interesting to note, it sounds like his face donor actually did kill himself

Yeah, I would never in a million years consider a firearm suicide. It's so gruesome for whoever finds you too. Like @LeavingForever said, it's just so brutal and violent. People need to realize that shooting yourself is not simply a quick, painless and easy way to kill yourself.

 

[Sherri]

I am begging members here to realize that shooting doesn't always happen as it does in the movies. I have a. 38 caliber revolver and hollow point bullets but I would never rely on that. My research has uncovered too many people with half of a face left from shooting themselves. My choice is nitrogen. I only posted this because I have never seen a real testimonial from a group that large.

My .38 revolver has a 5 lb pull for a trigger. I use 2 hands holding it at the gun range. It is way too easy to aim it straight but pulling the trigger so it angles up and into a path that misses the vital area.

Those pictures are what I am talking about! I would love to know that it was foolproof using a gun. I have had my revolver for 6 years with a permit to carry in my ankle holster but after researching and seeing the failures (and distorted faces I want to be clear.. it is not a sure thing.

The pictures are after the person had been stitched back together. They look like terribly stitched cabbage patch dolls. As in... They walk into a restaurant and people would cringe and look away. Please just be aware of this when you think of ctb.

It's a fair and true thread, the consequences if you survive probably aren't good and will make things worse, but I have no idea about guns.

 

[dreadpirateroberts69]

I found this article too and, oof. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/world...ten-mcginnes-shot-herself-head-mental-health/

The description of her injuries sounds horrific. Yeah, no thank you. Anyone who is considering this method really does need to know what they're dong.

 

[FinalPeace]

I would never choose this method but if I did I would shoot the heart. At worst I'd either bleed out or I'd survive with little major damage. Sure I may need a pacemaker or an artificial lung but those replacements are way more feasible. Theres no such thing as an amygdala or frontal lobe replacement without suffering some sort of debilitating deficiency.

 

[Interloper]

Like @LeavingForever said, it's just so brutal and violent. People need to realize that shooting yourself is not simply a quick, painless and easy way to kill yourself.

No method truly is, but I do think it's one of the better ones if done right. If you have doubts, then yes, don't use a gun.

 

[Sherri]

There was a huge American football player, Aaron Hernandez, he shot this guy right in the eye and left him to die in the streets. He survived and called him the next day for revenge. Ended up with a fake eye and some plastic skin around the whole. He's lucky he was able to be ok after that. Just the eye he lost.

 

[dreadpirateroberts69]

No method truly is, but I do think it's one of the better ones if done right. If you have doubts, then yes, don't use a gun.

Yes, and one more important thing I want to note, every single one of these stories I'm reading where they survived it says they shot themselves under the chin. PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT YOURSELF UNDER THE CHIN. Like you said, it it critical that it's done right.

 

[LADY007]

Ok, this thread sent me down a rabbithole of trying to find pics like this, and I ended up coming across this fascinating article:

Man left with just a forehead, eyeballs and tongue reveals incredible recovery

Cameron Underwood has had a ground-breaking face transplant after he shot himself in the face.

metro.co.uk

The guy in this article does look incredible after, I imagine most people who try to blow their brains out and happen to survive probably don't have access to such advanced surgeries. Also interesting to note, it sounds like his face donor actually did kill himself

Yeah, I would never in a million years consider a firearm suicide. It's so gruesome for whoever finds you too. Like @LeavingForever said, it's just so brutal and violent. People need to realize that shooting yourself is not simply a quick, painless and easy way to kill yourself.

Exactly and this guy was lucky there was a suitable face available when he needed it!!

There was a huge American football player, Aaron Hernandez, he shot this guy right in the eye and left him to die in the streets. He survived and called him the next day for revenge. Ended up with a fake eye and some plastic skin around the whole. He's lucky he was able to be ok after that. Just the eye he lost.

That is amazing... He was very lucky he had an eye left!

Yes, and one more important thing I want to note, every single one of these stories I'm reading where they survived it says they shot themselves under the chin. PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT YOURSELF UNDER THE CHIN. Like you said, it it critical that it's done right.

Excellent point!! You're right... a number of people I have heard of think that's a good way to do it!! Very wrong!

 

[Sherri]

Exactly and this guy was lucky there was a suitable face available when he needed it!!

That is amazing... He was very lucky he had an eye left!

Excellent point!! You're right... a number of people I have heard of think that's a good way to do it!! Very wrong!

He testified in court and all. He got life without parole for another 2 crimes, ctb by hanging shortly after. A 50 million dollar player. Sigh…

 

[Interloper]

Excellent point!! You're right... a number of people I have heard of think that's a good way to do it!! Very wrong!

I wonder if there's a study out there that shows which way of shooting yourself is shown the most in film and TV. When I try to recall scenes it's mostly in the temple but these people must have gotten the chin idea from somewhere.

Found this, I'm gonna make an attempt at reading it. Hope my ADHD cooperates.

 

[Komm_Süsser_Tod]

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BEWARE OF GUNSHOTS !!!

Temple is notoriously bad area to shoot yourself despite the many depictions in media. I cannot find the stats but I haven't really heard of anyone surviving by putting a shotgun to the roof of their mouth? Keep in mind I'm not meaning the chin.

 

[dreadpirateroberts69]

Temple is notoriously bad area to shoot yourself despite the many depictions in media. I cannot find the stats but I haven't really heard of anyone surviving by putting a shotgun to the roof of their mouth? Keep in mind I'm not meaning the chin.

From what I have heard you are supposed to aim for the brainstem, there's a thread about it here somewhere but I've mostly just heard about it anecdotally

 

[LADY007]

From what I have heard you are supposed to aim for the brainstem, there's a thread about it here somewhere but I've mostly just heard about it anecdotally

That's what I always read and heard.

 

[Rogue Proxy]

Would gripping the handgun's barrel with the free hand help prevent the upward flinch?

 

[LADY007]

Would gripping the handgun's barrel with one hand help prevent the upward flinch?

I think trying to do that is very awkward.. no matter what you are aiming at. Wish it worked.. but I don't trust it.

 

[dreadpirateroberts69]

I found the gun resource thread, this thread should have all the info one needs to correctly use this method https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/guns-firearms-megathread.9042/

 

[AnestheticVoid]

Shotgun is foolproof. It doesn't feel right leaving a headless corpse if I don't have to tho.