Method Betablocker suicide, carbon monoxide and some ramblings

[Moxim]

I was recently prescribed propanolol, which is a non-selective beta-blocker. I was surprised at how easy it was to receive this prescription, as well as the quantity that I was prescribed (5x repeats, at 100 pills per bottle, amounting to a total of 500 individual). The dose is quite low, at 10mg per pill, but the total quantity would be enough to kill any man if they were to consume each bottle in its entirety. Probably too much, in fact, as I certainly do not intend to consume all 500 pills. You may have heard of betablockers from their role in treating various heart arrhythmias, but you are in luck, as you do not need to be diagnosed with a heart arrhythmia here (Australia, but probably in your country, too) to receive a prescription, because they are often prescribed as an off-label treatment for anxiety related disorders. Better yet, practitioners are not reluctant to prescribe them because they are considered non-addictive, much unlike other anxiolytic drugs, such as lorazepam, valium or xanax, which not only require a referral and prescription to a specialist doctor (a psychiatrist, which could take up to a year of waiting before they agree to see you), but are often reluctantly prescribed due to their addictive properties.

This post was initially supposed to be about beta-blockers and charcoal burning carbon monoxide poisoning. I had done some research on these two, and I believe they may compliment each other extremely well, and are both relatively easy to obtain. Maybe I'll go into the nitty-gritty of it in another post, but I just wanted to get my first post out here for now. Maybe make some friends. But, the long and short of it looks something like this: Carbon monoxide poisoning follows the inhalation of co2 in a closed, confined space, leading to a potentially lethal situation. The heart increases cardiac output to compensate for the oxygen starved tissue (reflex tachycardia), but along come the beta-blockers, binding to β1​ receptors on the heart, essentially blocking its ability to increase cardiac output. I imagine there are some cases in which a carbon-monoxide poisoned person survived because of the hearts response to this. The cherry on top is that non-selective beta blockers also cause vasoconstriction (narrowing of blood vessels), further restraining our heart from betraying our decision.

I essentially have my death forewritten in a neat, tidy little pharmaceutical bottle currently sitting on the shelf next to me as I write this. But, like many of you here, death is not the only objective and concern we have to consider. Great thought is given to the process, which we often try to plan in such a way to minimise the pain and terror that often accompanies dying. We want to die, but we do not want to die in agony. We want to die, but we do not want to die in desperate fear. We want to die, but we do not want to leave behind a mangled corpse. The list goes on. Anyway, that's it for now. If you read this far, thank you, and if you know more than me about this, and I have made any sort of error, do not refrain from correcting me. Maybe together we can get a comprehensive guide for beta-blocker suicide written, complete with contraindications and indications for various substances and drugs.

 

[brokeandbroken]

I was recently prescribed propanolol, which is a non-selective beta-blocker. I was surprised at how easy it was to receive this prescription, as well as the quantity that I was prescribed (5x repeats, at 100 pills per bottle, amounting to a total of 500 individual). The dose is quite low, at 10mg per pill, but the total quantity would be enough to kill any man if they were to consume each bottle in its entirety. Probably too much, in fact, as I certainly do not intend to consume all 500 pills. You may have heard of betablockers from their role in treating various heart arrhythmias, but you are in luck, as you do not need to be diagnosed with a heart arrhythmia here (Australia, but probably in your country, too) to receive a prescription, because they are often prescribed as an off-label treatment for anxiety related disorders. Better yet, practitioners are not reluctant to prescribe them because they are considered non-addictive, much unlike other anxiolytic drugs, such as lorazepam, valium or xanax, which not only require a referral and prescription to a specialist doctor (a psychiatrist, which could take up to a year of waiting before they agree to see you), but are often reluctantly prescribed due to their addictive properties.

This post was initially supposed to be about beta-blockers and charcoal burning carbon monoxide poisoning. I had done some research on these two, and I believe they may compliment each other extremely well, and are both relatively easy to obtain. Maybe I'll go into the nitty-gritty of it in another post, but I just wanted to get my first post out here for now. Maybe make some friends. But, the long and short of it looks something like this: Carbon monoxide poisoning follows the inhalation of co2 in a closed, confined space, leading to a potentially lethal situation. The heart increases cardiac output to compensate for the oxygen starved tissue (reflex tachycardia), but along come the beta-blockers, binding to β1​ receptors on the heart, essentially blocking its ability to increase cardiac output. I imagine there are some cases in which a carbon-monoxide poisoned person survived because of the hearts response to this. The cherry on top is that non-selective beta blockers also cause vasoconstriction (narrowing of blood vessels), further restraining our heart from betraying our decision.

I essentially have my death forewritten in a neat, tidy little pharmaceutical bottle currently sitting on the shelf next to me as I write this. But, like many of you here, death is not the only objective and concern we have to consider. Great thought is given to the process, which we often try to plan in such a way to minimise the pain and terror that often accompanies dying. We want to die, but we do not want to die in agony. We want to die, but we do not want to die in desperate fear. We want to die, but we do not want to leave behind a mangled corpse. The list goes on. Anyway, that's it for now. If you read this far, thank you, and if you know more than me about this, and I have made any sort of error, do not refrain from correcting me. Maybe together we can get a comprehensive guide for beta-blocker suicide written, complete with contraindications and indications for various substances and drugs.

It seems to me that it may mask the effects for a while and maybe hasten death. That said it is well known CO poisoning is fatal and can lead to a relatively painless death. You often hear of people letting their car run in the garage (though IIRC newer cars won't be able to generate the same amount of CO) or from old furnaces and people dying in their sleep. Both of these w/o BB. So it may add strain but I am not sure it's particularly necessary granted a good source of CO is present.