Method Best method to ctb

[Amrfawzy]

Hi guys

So i think after long research for years actually i found the best way to ctb

Its actually Drowning!!
I know that there is alot of people saying its not reiable

But in this thread i will prove it most reliable method for people like us who dont have access to very dangerous chemicals or drugs


So first will list all method i did search on

So first
Blood pressure bills
not reiable because there is no standard dose to be considered overdose also risk of being brain damaged and you may get hallucinations and not lose consciousness

Second
Sleeping pills you need very large doses also strong side effects and you have get into coma and not die
With risk of brain damage of course
And it will take up to 6 hours for the side effects to appear

Third
Poison
Of course extreme pain
And you will get brain hemirage and that can cause also lot of side effects other than death so its not reiable at all
Also will take lot of time

Fourth
Insulin
Will take lot of time up to 6 hours to lose consciousness and you will not die for at least extra 8 to 10 hours
And there is will be lot of side effects
Like hallucinations and if you are not diabetic your body will fix the situation and you will not die
And there is very high risk of brain damage

Fifth
Hanging
is very bad method actually
Bec it will take up to 3 minutes to lose consciousness and you will be in extreme pain
After you lose consciousness the rope may get loosened little bit which will deacrese the pressure on your neck artreys and blood flwo again to your brain and in that case you will be brain damaged and death will happen after losing consciousness by 5 to 8 minutes
So there is lot of risk in this method

Sixth
Inert gas
Its very good but very hard to get those inert gases and to have the right quantity while wearing the mask and lot of factors most people cant knwo how to do it right and same as hanging it depends on depriving the brain from oxygen also you will get seizures thatvmay cause for the gas mask to fall or something like hanging too btw that can happen

Seventh
Co poisoning
Very risky too because you dont know how much coal you need
Also will take lot fo time to lose consciousness like 30 min to 1 hour
After that you will be dead after at least 3 hours so you may get a leak that will affect the result dramatically also you may get rescued in that time
And you dont knwo of you will die or not you may be awake with brain damage if you do have a leak that means co will be not concentrated enough and may lose consciousness but you won't die and that can leave you with lot worse situation



Now for the most important part

Drowning method
Time to lose consciousness is 2 minutes max and thats if you are trained or professional swimmer
Which is the least time to lose consciousness for any other method

Time to die is 15 to 30 minutes after losing consciousness
very quick

At first you may feel very little pain after that it will be very peaceful experience according to alot of people who are nearly died from Drowning and some people doesn't feel pain at all

But the main advantage here that Drowning is sure way to die if you stayed under water for long enough you will die 100% no other option

There is no any other method that has that high possibility of dying
Even shooting with gun in the head is not guaranteed like Drowning

Even in the bathhub you can drown just need something heavy to keep you under water like big chains for example or whatever you have in your mind taht will make sure that after losing consciousness you wont float on water surface

People say the survival instinct will rise
But man you dont want to survive!!
That can happen with people who wants to live and fighting their way back to surface

But you wont do that
just fight the urge to get some air and it wont take long till you lose consciousness and water enter your lung and die from oxygen deprivation


Tahts the only way that have 100% possibility of dying peacefully and guaranteed death too

You can read this research by yourself
And many others telling the same

The experience of drowning

Internationally, drowning is a leading cause of accidental death that features in many legal cases. In these cases, possible mitigations and the ‘pain and suffering’ in terms of the duration and subjective experience of drowning are often ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[befree]

There is no best method.

Here you can find an overview:

Need ideas

I want to end things because I'm tired of feeling like a failure and always being wrong about things. I can barely be an adult and will never have more than a minimum wage job. What are ways to end things quickly and peacefully, preferably that I can hide from a spouse that works from home?

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considering methods

whats the best kind of method that's easily accessible. I was considering Hannah Baker style but that seems super messy and painful. I don't have any way to get my hands on N or anything like that sooo

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This is just a general information. I do not encourage you to commit suicide and to use these methods. You act on your own responsibility.

 

[Amrfawzy]

There is no best method.

Here you can find an overview:

Need ideas

I want to end things because I'm tired of feeling like a failure and always being wrong about things. I can barely be an adult and will never have more than a minimum wage job. What are ways to end things quickly and peacefully, preferably that I can hide from a spouse that works from home?

sanctioned-suicide.net

considering methods

whats the best kind of method that's easily accessible. I was considering Hannah Baker style but that seems super messy and painful. I don't have any way to get my hands on N or anything like that sooo

sanctioned-suicide.net

This is just a general information. I do not encourage you to commit suicide and to use these methods. You act on your own responsibility.

Yes its the best for me
And i said the reasons for that
Maybe someone else doesn't want to do it this way its totally fine

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I wish you all the best with your plans. I hope find peace!

 

[Amrfawzy]

I wish you all the best with your plans. I hope find peace!

Thanks
Appreciate it

 

[MBG]

Inert gas
Its very good but very hard to get those inert gases and to have the right quantity while wearing the mask and lot of factors most people cant knwo how to do it right and same as hanging it depends on depriving the brain from oxygen also you will get seizures thatvmay cause for the gas mask to fall or something like hanging too btw that can happen

The R2D ReBreather lll seems to solve all those problems. Straps to hold it against your face. Unconsciousness in 2-3 breaths. Death in a few minutes. Plus no panic from drowning. No traumatizing whoever (kids?) finds your body washed ashore after fish & seagulls have feasted on it….
$250 for the device + $45 for S/H

R2D ReBreather III

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$40 for Nitrogen cartridges (Amazon)

A LOT cheaper than "a short stay in Switzerland.")

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[bluebird16]

I'll have to go by drowning if I don't successfully obtain SN.

 

[FuneralCry]

It must be a relief having the option of a method that you personally feel so confident in, I wish you the best.

 

[mono]

I've tested how long I could stay underwater in a bath tub and it was only for a little while. After my brain realized I wasn't getting oxygen I started to panic rlly badly, I feel like if I used the drowning method for real and not just testing it I would be able to succeed but I'm still worried about SI and that panic I felt the first time.

 

[d3c96524be95]

In all honesty, I'm rather skeptical about drowning being "the best" method (if "best method" even makes any sense). The NIH article you linked does indeed mention a consistent second phase of relative peace, but it's also preceded by a phase of panic and pain that is just as long (though I'd agree the pain described is milder than what I'd have thought). Maybe the low will to live can make this phase shorter or less painful, but I'd bet you can't avoid it entirely (except maybe if you take high doses of tranquilizers, but not even sure).

Also, survival instinct is not something you can control. Even if you've absolutely no will to live, you still puke when you feel poisoned, still cough when you choke, your body still sends immunogobulins to erradicate foreign bacterias, whether you like it or not. Should you really had no survival instinct, you'd be dead already. Maybe some people were able to drown just by the power of their will, but it is not guaranteed that it will be accessible to you at all. If it were true, then you could probably just suicide by letting your face down in a big puddle or in a pool. I don't believe it has great chances of success, even with a very low will to live. You'll try to find oxygen by any mean, and you won't be able to control it.

Lastly, you're dismissing a lot of methods because they're suposedly unreliable, cherry picking one or two examples of what could go wrong with said method. You're right that identifying risks is a smart thing to do. Yes the rope could fail when you hang. Yes, you could lose your mask when choking on inhert gas. But you can also come up with this exact same kind of flaws with the drowning method: what if there's a leak in the bathtub? What if your chains aren't properly attached? What if somebody finds you "in time"? It's a good thing to identify dangers, but the proper "engineering" rationale is: how can this danger be mitigated to reduce the risk, and is this new risk acceptable or not. Most of the time it's possible to achieve very high probabilities of success regardless of the method you pick. It's "just" a matter of identifing and properly mitigating risks. -- It's the same bias when people are dismissing nuclear power because "it's dangerous: the chain reaction could go out of control"; yes it could, but thanks to years of engineering, this risk was mitigated a lot to the point where nuclear power is today one of the safest source of electricity production.

That was just my 2 cents. I think the most important, if you really want to CTB, is to find a method you feel comfortable with, and once you've figured it out, mitigate the risks of failure as much as possible and determine whether this risk is acceptable lr not. If you feel comfortable with drowning, if you think you'll be able to handle it and mitigate the risks enough, then so be it. Regardless of what you decide to do, CTB or not, drowning or not, I wish you to find what you're looking for.

 

[MBG]

Yes, you could lose your mask when choking on inhert gas.

I've never heard of someone "choking" because of breathing inert gas. In suicides and industrial accidents I've read about the victims have moments of mild euphoria followed by unconsciousness, and then death.

 

[Elle]

Will drowning still work even though I can swim?

 

[d3c96524be95]

I've never heard of someone "choking" because of breathing inert gas. In suicides and industrial accidents I've read about the victims have moments of mild euphoria followed by unconsciousness, and then death.

I'm trusting you on this. I don't know much about the inhert gas method, my point was that any method carries its load of risks, and the important thing is to identify and minimize them. Not just say "the risk exists, so the method is bad".

You can replace this made-up risk with any other risk that applies to the inhert gas method. That'll do.

 

[Amrfawzy]

In all honesty, I'm rather skeptical about drowning being "the best" method (if "best method" even makes any sense). The NIH article you linked does indeed mention a consistent second phase of relative peace, but it's also preceded by a phase of panic and pain that is just as long (though I'd agree the pain described is milder than what I'd have thought). Maybe the low will to live can make this phase shorter or less painful, but I'd bet you can't avoid it entirely (except maybe if you take high doses of tranquilizers, but not even sure).

Also, survival instinct is not something you can control. Even if you've absolutely no will to live, you still puke when you feel poisoned, still cough when you choke, your body still sends immunogobulins to erradicate foreign bacterias, whether you like it or not. Should you really had no survival instinct, you'd be dead already. Maybe some people were able to drown just by the power of their will, but it is not guaranteed that it will be accessible to you at all. If it were true, then you could probably just suicide by letting your face down in a big puddle or in a pool. I don't believe it has great chances of success, even with a very low will to live. You'll try to find oxygen by any mean, and you won't be able to control it.

Lastly, you're dismissing a lot of methods because they're suposedly unreliable, cherry picking one or two examples of what could go wrong with said method. You're right that identifying risks is a smart thing to do. Yes the rope could fail when you hang. Yes, you could lose your mask when choking on inhert gas. But you can also come up with this exact same kind of flaws with the drowning method: what if there's a leak in the bathtub? What if your chains aren't properly attached? What if somebody finds you "in time"? It's a good thing to identify dangers, but the proper "engineering" rationale is: how can this danger be mitigated to reduce the risk, and is this new risk acceptable or not. Most of the time it's possible to achieve very high probabilities of success regardless of the method you pick. It's "just" a matter of identifing and properly mitigating risks. -- It's the same bias when people are dismissing nuclear power because "it's dangerous: the chain reaction could go out of control"; yes it could, but thanks to years of engineering, this risk was mitigated a lot to the point where nuclear power is today one of the safest source of electricity production.

That was just my 2 cents. I think the most important, if you really want to CTB, is to find a method you feel comfortable with, and once you've figured it out, mitigate the risks of failure as much as possible and determine whether this risk is acceptable lr not. If you feel comfortable with drowning, if you think you'll be able to handle it and mitigate the risks enough, then so be it. Regardless of what you decide to do, CTB or not, drowning or not, I wish you to find what you're looking for.

I agree with all of that

But Drowning has the Lowest risk possible
Bathtub to leak is very rare thing happen
Also chains will not get loose you will just wrap yourself with chains or anything heavy attached to your body yo keep you under water while unconscious so it will never go wrong i will not remove it while iam unconscious

And the most important thing is the success rate you will 100% die if you kepr yourself underwater but if you are using hanging for example you may lose consciousness and not die and it happens a lot because your sezisure may cause the rope looss little bit which deacrese pressure on the artries and blood flow will return to your brain

Any drugs based method only has 50% chance of killing you even if you take all considerations and there is no one mistake

Will drowning still work even though I can swim?

Sure it will
Because the key here you have to keep yourself underwater with chains or any thing heavy also it doesn't have yo be in the sea
I dont encourage doing it in the sea anyway
Best option is bathtub

I'm trusting you on this. I don't know much about the inhert gas method, my point was that any method carries its load of risks, and the important thing is to identify and minimize them. Not just say "the risk exists, so the method is bad".

You can replace this made-up risk with any other risk that applies to the inhert gas method. That'll do.

Yes you are right
But the difference is if you can even minimize that risk or not
Lot of methods you can lower the risk you can have to take the risk.
But Drowning you can extremely lower the risk thats was my point of the post

The R2D ReBreather lll seems to solve all those problems. Straps to hold it against your face. Unconsciousness in 2-3 breaths. Death in a few minutes. Plus no panic from drowning. No traumatizing whoever (kids?) finds your body washed ashore after fish & seagulls have feasted on it….
$250 for the device + $45 for S/H

R2D ReBreather III

r2d.respiro.global

$40 for Nitrogen cartridges (Amazon)

A LOT cheaper than "a short stay in Switzerland.")

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I didn't say where i will do it!
I will not do it in open sea that will unlogical to be honest

Also i dont how to get nitrogen for 40$ from Amazon!!
Are you sure ?

 

[saddestbunny]

Drowning is extremely painful, wouldn't recommend

Half hearted attempts go to the statistics, if you aim a shotgun at your head there's 0% chance you live, but ur original post doesn't seem very informed

personally I'd do more research but I hope you find peace whatever method you choose

 

[Amrfawzy]

Drowning is extremely painful, wouldn't recommend

Half hearted attempts go to the statistics, if you aim a shotgun at your head there's 0% chance you live, but ur original post doesn't seem very informed

personally I'd do more research but I hope you find peace whatever method you choose

Not everyone has access to shotgun!!!
Plus research about Drowning
Its from least painful method ever
There is no any reason to have pain at first place
All you will feel urge to take breath that's it
I have searched alot no one ever has nearly drowned said that it's extremely painful


Most of the survivors said its not even painful at all
I want to say i didnt write all information i have in that post that will take pages i just wrote quick reasons why i will not use any of the methods above other than Drowning

 

[saddestbunny]

here's my post from previously

you can find many accounts of drowning being extemely terrifying and painful, but again, it's your call. my only hope is to fully inform everyone here so they can make the best decisions possible for their situation

sorry you're not somewhere with access to easier methods


One myth about drowning that survives to this day is that it is a painless, almost pleasant way to die. Survivors testify otherwise:

"...When the cramp hit me, I sank to the bottom of the lake 12 feet down, in a doubled-up position. Compounding the wracking pain in my trunk was a mounting choking sensation. (Try holding your mouth and nose after taking a deep breath. Hold your breath until it becomes unbearable; then try holding it a few seconds past the unbearable point. It's a horrible sensation and would give you a dim idea of just one aspect of how it feels to drown.) The pressure of the water caused a stabbing pain in my eyes and ears... try to keep your head when water begins to seep into your already tortured lungs and your body is a mass of pain and you know you are dying... I remember that I screamed down there against a solid wall of water. I remember that I threshed and bobbed, but only succeeded in burrowing my head into the slime of the lake floor...."

 

[Amrfawzy]

here's my post from previously

you can find many accounts of drowning being extemely terrifying and painful, but again, it's your call. my only hope is to fully inform everyone here so they can make the best decisions possible for their situation

sorry you're not somewhere with access to easier methods


One myth about drowning that survives to this day is that it is a painless, almost pleasant way to die. Survivors testify otherwise:

"...When the cramp hit me, I sank to the bottom of the lake 12 feet down, in a doubled-up position. Compounding the wracking pain in my trunk was a mounting choking sensation. (Try holding your mouth and nose after taking a deep breath. Hold your breath until it becomes unbearable; then try holding it a few seconds past the unbearable point. It's a horrible sensation and would give you a dim idea of just one aspect of how it feels to drown.) The pressure of the water caused a stabbing pain in my eyes and ears... try to keep your head when water begins to seep into your already tortured lungs and your body is a mass of pain and you know you are dying... I remember that I screamed down there against a solid wall of water. I remember that I threshed and bobbed, but only succeeded in burrowing my head into the slime of the lake floor...."

First he was Drowning in deep water the pressure is what caused tha pain

If you see my replies above i dont encourages doing it in open sea or deep water for that reason thats first

Also he is not suicidal that's why he panicked and felt so horrible sensations!!
His lungs tortured due to pressure npt Drowning itself

This is individual case and it different from i was talking about on original post

Its like saying someone hanged himself from 10th floor of course he will be in extreme pain due to the gravity but he is stupid to do that at first place

 

[saddestbunny]

okay, I wish you the best of luck and hope you find the peace you are looking for however that manifests for u

 

[Amrfawzy]

okay, I wish you the best of luck and hope you find the peace you are looking for however that manifests for u

Thanks really appreciate it