jisi

jisi

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i'm sure at least some people on here understand what it's like to be facially challenged — we're on a suicide forum after all. i'm also sure that there's already plenty of posts going into great detail about it, so what i have to say isn't going to be particularly special. nevertheless, this post is just going to be meandering about it for quite a while. i highly doubt anyone's going to read it to the end, let alone give a damn about what some random person on the internet has to say, but i just need to feel as if i'm talking to at least someone.



for context, i was born a black girl, the youngest out of 6 children. i also happen to be the only girl in my family, which went extremely well of course, but that's a topic for another time. the reason for my existence is sort of a funny one: it being the fact that my mother desperately wanted a girl but also happened to be unlucky the first 5 times around. thus, i came to be brought into existence for such a stupidly trivial reason.



growing up, i had to deal with the unfortunate circumstances of not being genetically gifted in the facial region, to put it nicely. to be blunt, i was hideously fucking ugly. my nose is big, my forehead is bigger, my lips are embarrassingly small for a person of my descent, and if i smile (god forbid), it makes me appear as if i had aged a few decades as well as it being horribly asymmetrical. now, this isn't just me being picky; these are all things i've been told directly or indirectly, mainly by my brothers and my friends at the time. from an objective standpoint, everything is just wrong about my face.



for quite a while, i alluded to my ugliness being a consequence of my blackness, simply because my brothers would do the same. my brothers would always hammer their views on black women into me whenever they got the chance to: how they're ghetto, aggressive, hideous, the most undesirable type of person to every single other race, everything under the fucking sun pretty much.



however, i went to a pretty diverse school and i saw all of the other black girls there — they were all doing fine. it was me who stood out, and i became aware of that from quite an early age. even back in primary school, all of my friends were far cuter than i was, and so a lot of boys would tend to have crushes on them. i was fated to be the exception. i noticed that whenever boys had crushes on girls, which usually occurred when they hardly even knew them, it meant that they just found them pretty. naturally, i came to realise that there's something wrong with my face.



during high school, i started experimenting with my looks and getting into self improvement. trust me, i've done a lot. i learned how to do my hair and makeup, i've gained weight, i've lost weight, i learned how to become more open and true to myself, i've put on every act under the sun, but to no avail. it seemed that every pretty colour i painted on just got completely sucked in and disappeared into my black hole of a canvas, and it was ultimately meaningless. after a while, i just decided to give up, which leads me to where i am today.



now, i want to go over the experiences i've had with being ugly and just random observations i've made that relate to this subject. i thought it would be fun to compile them all into a little list because why not honestly:



1. pity compliments


this especially rings true if you grew up as a girl with prettier friends. a lot of people tend to be dishonest about it for a variety of reasons, reasons that i'm not entirely sure of. perhaps it's to make you feel better? but whenever someone tells me 'nooo you're not ugly you're so prettyyyy' i cannot decide for the life of me whether i want to kill them or kill myself or both. i'm sure they have good intentions, but it's hard to believe when all of the experiences you've had tell you otherwise. i'd rather have them tell me that i'm ugly and call it a day. it's worse when they give you that 'everyone is beautiful in their own way 💕' bullshit. it's tiring.



2. cute when they do it, annoying when you do it


if you have a chatty personality and you're ugly, there's no hope for you. i'm sure you've encountered a lot of people who are very talkative and are generally well liked by others around them. however, whenever you talk a lot, it's as if people are politely gesturing at you to piss off. this stands true in a lot of areas, not just talking a lot. say, if you have a slightly peculiar hobby you enjoy, when you're ugly it contributes to you being seen as a freak and therefore uglier. of course, its the opposite if you're pretty.



3. automatically the funny one in the friend group


it's quite self explanatory. i've been in a couple of friend groups before and my entire value in them was based on how much i could make anyone else laugh. if you're unable to do that you're basically useless and not worth anyone's time, which is annoying because jokes tend to land better when you're more attractive so you'd have to REALLY try to be funny.



4. you have to essentially be superhuman to garner attention


it's a well established fact that it's generally harder for lesser attractive people to get noticed. however, i've noticed that people who dramatically exceed in any field will have better luck. you pretty much have to be extremely impressive in your chosen skill — being average does not cut it.



5. good luck on finding a partner


self explanatory.



6. there will be dickheads


this is the polar opposite of the first point. there'll always be plenty of people around who'll happily remind you of the way your face looks. they are just as insufferable as people who lie to your face, if not worse. whilst there's an element of truth in what they say, you also have to consider the reasons as for why they felt the need to go out of their way to tell you something that you presumably already know. it's no secret that it's a way for them to cope with their own insecurities by punching down. however, for me personally, it's kind of hard to completely dismiss what they're saying, despite them just being a dickhead who has nothing new to say. it makes me feel bad, and then i berate myself for feeling bad and i start to feel worse, and then it just proceeds into an endless cycle. they always win regardless of what you try to make out of it, which sucks but it's inevitable. people will always be people.



7. ugliness is colourblind


this one is more of a personal one as you can tell. i assumed that the reason as for why i'm ugly is because i'm black for a good portion of my life. it has brought me great comfort to realise that ugliness isn't exclusive to one race in particular, but all of them. no matter what your ethnic makeup is, there's bound to be a couple of uglies in the group you belong to. the biological instincts you have when determining whether something is ugly or not does not discriminate at all.



8. we're apes that somehow became smart, but still apes regardless


human beings are so insanely complex, but simultaneously so simple. there's no escaping our animalistic tendencies, and being pretty is just a sign of health and good genes, in which contributes to fertility. of course, it'll get kind of weird to think about at a certain point: like if people were to congratulate a particular individual for being beautiful, it's sort of like saying "you will perpetuate the species" to them. however, i won't go there as i don't think it's THAT simple. but we as human beings enjoy seeing beautiful things — it's in our nature to. we'll never be able to live in a world where it does not matter. what i've learned is that you can not reshape beauty standards and shame other people into finding the undesirable desirable. you can say or do anything you want, delude yourself into believing that you're the most attractive being on planet earth if you must, but things will not change and it's ultimately going to be a waste of time from your end. of course, i won't deny that a portion of what we deem as beautiful is cultural, but there surely is an objective standard. i've learned to live with the fact that i cannot meet those standards without having gone under any invasive procedures to alter my appearance. there's only so much i can do currently, and at my best i'm just below average. because of all of this, i won't cry or demand others to treat me the way i want to be treated. it's just a product of our existence. there's bound to be people who'll fall short when it comes to these standards, and i can say with utmost certainty that i am one of them. the only choices i have are to live with it or opt out, and i'm sure you could imagine what my choice is.


i think i'll end it here. if anyone's still reading, thank you for taking the time out of your day to listen to me. if you have any more points you'd like to add on or share your own experiences with being ugly, please feel free to. i'd be glad to hear them out. <3
 
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I took the time to read because my first post on here was also more about feeling like I had people to talk to and say things I couldn't say to anyone else. As far as the ugly thing goes. I know it's cliché but I do believe there is someone for everyone. I didn't count myself as good looking or anything but I managed to find partners. We can walk round and see people who aren't the most attractive people and they seem to find people but ultimately your life is your experience and if you are struggling for any reason no one should or can tell you it's wrong or belittle it in anyway
 
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I took the time to read because my first post on here was also more about feeling like I had people to talk to and say things I couldn't say to anyone else. As far as the ugly thing goes. I know it's cliché but I do believe there is someone for everyone. I didn't count myself as good looking or anything but I managed to find partners. We can walk round and see people who aren't the most attractive people and they seem to find people but ultimately your life is your experience and if you are struggling for any reason no one should or can tell you it's wrong or belittle it in anyway
hello! thank you so much for understanding me. i do agree that it's still possible for lesser attractive people to find a partner; i have seen countless people who'd be considered ugly in fulfilling relationships. however, i personally believe that for every one of those people who have succeeded, there are whole plethora of other people who could not even fathom the possibility of finding love. i honestly think it just comes down to luck. i'm really glad that you were able to find love regardless of your appearance. thank you for your input :)
 
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DeadNotSleeping

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Oct 7, 2024
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Man this just reminded me of when I used to be more social. I was in Scouts when I was younger. End of middle school through high school and a little after as an adult leader. Anyway, I used to have the typical straight hair emo look. One of the adult leaders would basically pick on me relentlessly. Said he knew I was balding and that's why my hair was like that. That wasn't the case at all, but it still sucked to have someone you were supposed to look up to say shit like that. Also I started graying super early so got the comment of "You know you have gray hair, right?". No shit guy thanks though. That fucking lanky high school period was awful too. Basically people be dicks and love to just point shit out about you that you already know. I never understood why. Are they hoping to say something you aren't aware of?

I do however have to count my blessings. Being a guy I know for sure I didn't get nearly as much as women do. Girls are just ruthless to each other it's awful.
 
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Man this just reminded me of when I used to be more social. I was in Scouts when I was younger. End of middle school through high school and a little after as an adult leader. Anyway, I used to have the typical straight hair emo look. One of the adult leaders would basically pick on me relentlessly. Said he knew I was balding and that's why my hair was like that. That wasn't the case at all, but it still sucked to have someone you were supposed to look up to say shit like that. Also I started graying super early so got the comment of "You know you have gray hair, right?". No shit guy thanks though. That fucking lanky high school period was awful too. Basically people be dicks and love to just point shit out about you that you already know. I never understood why. Are they hoping to say something you aren't aware of?

I do however have to count my blessings. Being a guy I know for sure I didn't get nearly as much as women do. Girls are just ruthless to each other it's awful.
god, it's so disheartening to hear of people who are supposed to be like our role models needlessly tearing down others. i'm sorry that you had to deal with all of those remarks, my heart goes out to you. people can genuinely be so vile.

i feel like both women and men are just as ruthless to each other, just in different ways. i've been socialised with both throughout my life, and i've witnessed some of the impacts it can have on both of the sexes.

this is just one example, but i feel like playfully making fun of each other (roasting, if you will) is common in a lot of friendships that consist of men. it's fine to an extent, but i've seen plenty of instances where it just devolves into straight up bullying. i've seen how it impacts the person too, but i feel as if no one talks about the effects of it because their feelings would automatically be dismissed if they were to speak up about it. i think that's the main cause as for why a lot of people tend to believe that women have it worse: they're more vocal about it. if a man were to speak up about his insecurities he'd instantly be mocked,
and mainly by other men. it's sad.
 
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As a 5'5 guy I can definitely relate to feeling ugly. There are of course other reasons for why I haven't been in a relationship despite being 26 but I won't go into details for privacy reasons. However, being this short has definitely fucked with my mind. I wish to CTB whenever I look in the mirror.

I wish I didn't desire love this much. It's not even about sex, it's about the empty feeling in the inside. That's why I refuse to hire a sex worker to lose my virginity despite it being legal where I live.
 
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Yes, I understand you. ive been rly insecure abt my appearance for a few years, leading me to overanalyze what conventionally pretty people do or behave like. I've tried to pick up on some of their behaviors naively thinking I'd end up more attractive, but just like you, it was all in vain. I wasnt pretty, so everything I did made me look desperate and annoying.

My struggle to cope with my dull appearance honestly plays a decent role in my suicide ideation. it sounds lame, but the limited control in my appearance cripples my sense of worth. every morning I l look in the mirror and hyperfixate on my scarred and dry skin, small eyes, unnatural nose, lopsided face, small lips, dead hair, disproportionally small arms, frail legs, wide stomach, etc. i hate that no matter how hard I try, i can never change how my face looks.
 
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Nothing87

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I relate with you :(

I was bullied ever since I was in elementary and high school because of my looks and it causes me to become insecure as I grew up. Now, I am still dealing with insecurities and body dysmorphia and I tried everything to change my appearance. Nothing works...
 
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ForgottenAgain

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It's interesting that you mention race as the reason for being ugly as I felt the same, but in my case because I'm very pale.

People at school would call me vampire, make me trip, make me fall into rubbish bins, throw food, etc. I learned early on that I was ugly and boys would make sure to remind me, all the way to university.

You're right about having to be exceptional at something to be noticed. When I became very good at programming was when I received some respect from my peers at uni.

I should say though, that appearances had a lot more bearing in my life during the school years and pretty much none at all after that. When you're working an office job, people don't care, they're focused on their own life - raising kids, paying off their mortgage, going out with their friends. Remote work is also amazing for this sort of thing.

Being ugly doesn't affect my life currently, even though it very much did early on.
 
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Everyone is beautiful to someone, the trick is finding that someone.
It's what's on the inside that counts the most anyway.
Physical beauty doesn't cure loneliness for anyone, it can actually get someone attracted to you for the wrong reasons.
For me, when I look at a woman, the first thing that attracts me are her hands, I think to myself, could I hold this hand for the rest of my life ?
Ultimately the bond that grows between 2 people that stay together is about how you hold them in your heart, and they you, not the color of their skin or what their nose looks like.
 
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Your brothers suck. God, I hate those kinds of black men who will spend their time shitting on black women, especially since they almost always get offended when they start dating outside of their race and become possessive.

Also, I'm sorry about you having struggled so much due to your appearance. While I'm also not that good-looking, I've thankfully been able to avoid any mistreatment because of it.

The thing you mentioned about pity compliments reminds me of back in grade 9 when we had someone from grade 12 come down to our classroom and do this presentation on self-love or whatever. During it, we had to go around the room and say something we liked about ourselves. We were allowed to pass if we wanted. Whenever anyone passed there would always be a bunch of other people talking about how great they are, whether it be based on their appearances or character. When they got to me and I said I'd pass the room was completely silent. I understand that there wouldn't be much to say about me personality-wise since I didn't like interacting with others much, but they couldn't even think of a comment to give me on my physical appearance, lol. After the whole thing was done and we started heading out for lunch, the grade 12 rushed over to me to tell me that I was "pretty" out of pity for me. It doesn't bother me that much now, but man was it embarrassing at the time.

I went to an all-girls school and most of the kids in my grade were nice, so I luckily didn't have to deal with anything in regards to my classmates mistreating me. I feel like things would have sucked if I decided to go to a different school.

Honestly, you do seem to be very smart based on the writing in your OP, which I would say is much more impressive in comparison to just looking good.
 
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