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imagine spending all your free time while you're not being a cog watching basketball or football. Then when you are at work you just talk about sports the whole time. FUCK me why is life so shit. Being a conformist is promoted in this world. Dull monkeys can form groups together talking about kicking balls in a net and bond together over it. I can't do it. The ultra conformists are the people at the top and it makes me want to blow my head off.
 
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imagine spending all your free time while you're not being a cog watching basketball or football. Then when you are at work you just talk about sports the whole time. FUCK me why is life so shit. Being a conformist is promoted in this world. Dull monkeys can form groups together talking about kicking balls in a net and bond together over it. I can't do it. The ultra conformists are the people at the top and it makes me want to blow my head off.

"Keep some vestiges of the monkey or stay home" - Emil Cioran (The Trouble With Being Born)

Because if you say anything that challenges the belief that one should be grateful get up at the butt crack of dawn, sit in traffic, just to sit in a cube everyday for peanuts, you're liable to get locked away.
 
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Yeah, man... I can't stand it...
 
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RememberWhatUCameFor

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what makes you guys special though?

that you watch anime or browse suicideforums in your freetime instead of watching sports? lol

i highly doubt that people on this board have a life full of adventures either so who are we to judge..


most of the "normal" are somehow happy and that is all that matters.
 
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what makes you guys special though?

that you watch anime or browse suicideforums in your freetime instead of watching sports? lol

i highly doubt that people on this board have a life full of adventures either so who are we to judge..


most of the "normal" are somehow happy and that is all that matters.

im not special i'm just sad that i feel like i need to watch sports and be a normie to fit in. i fucking hate my stupid life
 
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im not special i'm just sad that i feel like i need to watch sports and be a normie to fit in. i fucking hate my stupid life

what are your interests though?

what makes you think you are not a "normie"?

what do you think are good smalltalk topics at work with people who are not necesseraly your friends? about what would you like to talk at work?

im genuinely curious without judging..
 
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Don't spend your time hating other people. They're them and you can get to know them. Don't go so far out on a limb that it breaks off underneath you. Maybe you're depressed because you don't like what you're doing with your life. Find things you enjoy and people you can talk about them with.
 
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"Keep some vestiges of the monkey or stay home" - Emil Cioran (The Trouble With Being Born)

Because if you say anything that challenges the belief that one should be grateful get up at the butt crack of dawn, sit in traffic, just to sit in a cube everyday for peanuts, you're liable to get locked away.
I still don't get that quite lol but I read his book The Trouble With Being Born (because if your signature iirc), I dont read much but I loved most of what I understood. It fits will with this thread, and I'd recommend it as a dark read!!
 
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what are your interests though?

what makes you think you are not a "normie"?

what do you think are good smalltalk topics at work with people who are not necesseraly your friends? about what would you like to talk at work?

im genuinely curious without judging..

At this point my only interest is killing myself.

I used to enjoy video games but that was it. I had to force myself to enjoy other things, everything else wasn't stimulating enough.
 
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It so fucking is ❤️
 
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So it goes
 
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At this point my only interest is killing myself.

I used to enjoy video games but that was it. I had to force myself to enjoy other things, everything else wasn't stimulating enough.


a lot of people play videogames these days...pretty normie

but yeah in the end it doesnt matter

i hope im gone pretty soon too
 
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i highly doubt that people on this board have a life full of adventures either so who are we to judge..

You can be surprised... And technically, there are normal people and outcasts. That is a factual statement.
 
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I still don't get that quite lol but I read his book The Trouble With Being Born (because if your signature iirc), I dont read much but I loved most of what I understood. It fits will with this thread, and I'd recommend it as a dark read!!

If no one has answered yet, here is my interpretation of the qoute.

Humans are essentially animals. We,eat sleep, poo, and do the "grown folks" just like every other mammal.

Monkeys (apes, bonnobo) or one of those we are related to or share common ancestry or something. I'm not well versed in human evolution but i think you get the picture.

Those who don't follow the pack are not acting very animal (monkey) like, they are concerned with more than eating and satisfying primitive urges. Once the pack notices you aren't conforming as expected, you run the risk of shaking up there whole illusion.

EMC is saying, if you can't maintain enough of the animal like behavior that society expects of you, you'd do best to keep your ass in the house. If not you'll be shunned (ignored), mistreated (bullied), or deemed insane and get locked away in a psych ward.
 
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The ultra conformists are the people at the top
It is the people at the top who are the ultimate non-conformists, as they are ones crafting the rules of conformity.
 
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It is the people at the top who are the ultimate non-conformists, as they are ones crafting the rules of conformity.

you're right but they're the guys who have some mental power to enjoy work and were born with massive privilege. Nobody will get to where people like jeff bezos or mark zuckerberg are unless they were born with privilege.
 
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you're right but they're the guys who have some mental power to enjoy work and were born with massive privilege. Nobody will get to where people like jeff bezos or mark zuckerberg are unless they were born with privilege.

I agree, but it must also be borne in mind that privilege is relative and there a significant number of people across the world who would consider you, and me for that matter, to be very privileged in comparison.
 
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I agree, but it must also be borne in mind that privilege is relative and there a significant number of people across the world who would consider you, and me for that matter, to be very privileged in comparison.

We are born with "privilege" but not emotional privilege. At least I'm not. I am an only child to a mentally ill mom. I would rather be born as a poor african farmer in a small community than live the way I am forced to now. I was born to commit suicide. Truly living for myself means being living a life of hedonism and coping. That is the only way I will siphon some form of happiness from this stupid fucking life i lead.
 
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Watching football (or soccer, whatever) is the only thing keeping me sane right now.
But I don't have anyone to talk about it lol.
 
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We are born with "privilege" but not emotional privilege. At least I'm not. I am an only child to a mentally ill mom. I would rather be born as a poor african farmer in a small community than live the way I am forced to now. I was born to commit suicide. Truly living for myself means being living a life of hedonism and coping. That is the only way I will siphon some form of happiness from this stupid fucking life i lead.

Again a fair point l guess, but if your issue is with a deficit in 'emotional privilege' as you describe, it's peculiar that the people who have a type of privilege you envy are always US based men with significant wealth and power, not the "poor African farmer" with his presumed "emotional stability".
 
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Again a fair point l guess, but if your issue is with a deficit in 'emotional privilege' as you describe, it's peculiar that the people who have a type of privilege you envy are always US based men with significant wealth and power, not the "poor African farmer" with his presumed "emotional stability".

The point is that the African farmer lives in a smaller community where he can go through a more balanced power process unlike the bastardized power process we have in the USA. The inequality is less pronounced in a small african village. The privilege isn't as bad. Essentially the system isn't rigged to shit like it is in the united states. In the USA you are an animal being herded socially and through your career. There is minimal control. There is a reason the nerd doesn't feel comfortable in a frat house. Because he wasn't born into the privileged elite white upper middle class. The middle class nerd gets to choose between middle class options because he cannot network properly even if he excels at school.
 
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The point is that the African farmer lives in a smaller community where he can go through a more balanced power process unlike the bastardized power process we have in the USA. The inequality is less pronounced in a small african village. The privilege isn't as bad. Essentially the system isn't rigged to shit like it is in the united states. In the USA you are an animal being herded socially and through your career. There is minimal control. There is a reason the nerd doesn't feel comfortable in a frat house. Because he wasn't born into the privileged elite white upper middle class. The middle class nerd gets to choose between middle class options because he cannot network properly even if he excels at school.

Good points you made. The USA is a joke. It's one big rigged game against the poor, the middle class, the introverts, the disabled, pretty much everyone who doesn't belong to certain groups. I'd rather live in an African village if I was mentally and physically healthy... I'd have more freedom(I mean less controlling and less demanding masters) and I'd have more of a chance to rise up in the hierarchy and have a decent simple life.
 
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The point is that the African farmer lives in a smaller community where he can go through a more balanced power process unlike the bastardized power process we have in the USA. The inequality is less pronounced in a small african village. The privilege isn't as bad. Essentially the system isn't rigged to shit like it is in the united states. In the USA you are an animal being herded socially and through your career. There is minimal control. There is a reason the nerd doesn't feel comfortable in a frat house. Because he wasn't born into the privileged elite white upper middle class. The middle class nerd gets to choose between middle class options because he cannot network properly even if he excels at school.

But you don't bristle with barely concealed fury and envy at "poor African farmers", you do so at the rich, the powerful, those in the very highest echelons of society who exist in some rarefied atmosphere from which you are barred from entry. It really does seem clear that living a life without absolute power over others and an obscene amount of wealth is essentially not worth living for you, which is fine if it's genuinely how you feel, but you'd have significantly less power in an "African farming community". Africa btw is a sizeable continent, I'm not sure every "farming community" there will offer you job satisfaction on your own terms.
 
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I'd rather live in an African village... I'd have more freedom and I'd have more of a chance to rise up in the hierarchy

I'd love to live in a POW camp, I'd soon rise to the top of the POW Governing Committee and life would not only be simpler as a result, there's also the added benefit of there being a strict No Frat Boys policy.
 
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But you don't bristle with barely concealed fury and envy at "poor African farmers", you do so at the rich, the powerful, those in the very highest echelons of society who exist in some rarefied atmosphere from which you are barred from entry. It really does seem clear that living a life without absolute power over others and an obscene amount of wealth is essentially not worth living for you, which is fine if it's genuinely how you feel, but you'd have significantly less power in an "African farming community". Africa btw is a sizeable continent, I'm not sure every "farming community" there will offer you job satisfaction on your own terms.

No actually. I would be happy if I could carry that white person mindset and grew up in a life where i belonged to my community. Unfortunately I am mixed race and my parents are immigrants and i live in the midwest. I have nothing in common with anyone.

I am also not comfortable dedicating 60-70 hours a week to my job just to taste the bottom of the upper middle class life. What a fucking scam. I'd have to be coked out on adderall 247 to do that. And warning, "misogyny" ahead, I am not comfortable with the way women's standards have absolutely skyrocketed out of control since the internet became fully formed. It is impossible to get a happy, normal boomer lifestyle now. It will only get worse. Socializing is work, social media is work, work is work, networking is work, it's all fucking work. When do i get time to just sit down and do what the fuck i want. Never. I have to literally blast my ass to achieve just a small tiny drop of the good life. And even after all that you're gonna get divorced (50% divorce rates and rising btw) because the depression and unhappiness everyone feels is INHERENT to this fucking stupid system.

I'm going to just live my best life which is full blown hedonism.
 
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And warning, "misogyny" ahead, I am not comfortable with the way women's standards have absolutely skyrocketed out of control since the internet became fully formed.

Well, we got there in the end, l guess. At least you gave us the warning this time l suppose.
 
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No actually. I would be happy if I could carry that white person mindset and grew up in a life where i belonged to my community. Unfortunately I am mixed race and my parents are immigrants and i live in the midwest. I have nothing in common with anyone.

I am also not comfortable dedicating 60-70 hours a week to my job just to taste the bottom of the upper middle class life. What a fucking scam. I'd have to be coked out on adderall 247 to do that. And warning, "misogyny" ahead, I am not comfortable with the way women's standards have absolutely skyrocketed out of control since the internet became fully formed. It is impossible to get a happy, normal boomer lifestyle now. It will only get worse. Socializing is work, social media is work, work is work, networking is work, it's all fucking work. When do i get time to just sit down and do what the fuck i want. Never. I have to literally blast my ass to achieve just a small tiny drop of the good life. And even after all that you're gonna get divorced (50% divorce rates and rising btw) because the depression and unhappiness everyone feels is INHERENT to this fucking stupid system.

I'm going to just live my best life which is full blown hedonism.

I agree with you 100% except the part about women. Yeah, in the USA, it's just work, work, work, work and then you die just to live a shit life... In other parts of the world, the masters who rule over the masses are less controlling and less demanding. And offer almost everyone, ways to rise up to a certain point. We have some of the cruelest masters, here... The people who run this country, see us as trash. I'm also mixed race and that is a huge handicap in this racist fucking country. I hate that in the USA, you have to meet so many requirements, just to rise up and have a decent life. The social upward mobility level of this country is appalling. Highly educated and intelligent people did studies by the way and found the USA to be one of the countries with a very low level of social upward mobility.
 
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I encourage you to get out there to see for yourself because I have.

See what? Serious question here, what should l see about female behaviour in 2018 that I'm missing?
 
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