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ctbiit

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What do you think about this?

Basically take a bunch of sleeping pills and when you are close to falling asleep pull a plastic bag over your head.
 
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therhydler

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It won't work. You will wake up when you start to suffocate and will pull the bag off or at least attempt to because it will be unbearable
 
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It won't work. You will wake up when you start to suffocate and will pull the bag off or at least attempt to because it will be unbearable

would he though if he's sound asleep from the sleeping pills? I'm sorry I'm just wondering.
 
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StreamingMySuicide

StreamingMySuicide

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Nov 21, 2018
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Use Ketamine instead of sleeping pills. Injecting it in your veins. It'll knocking you out within 30 seconds.
 
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therhydler

therhydler

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would he though if he's sound asleep from the sleeping pills? I'm sorry I'm just wondering.

I think so... the pain from suffocating is really intense
 
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21Neberg

21Neberg

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I think so... the pain from suffocating is really intense

Thank you for the reply. I did not know the pain could be so intense it could interrupt your medicin-induced sleep, thank you for sharing!
 
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TiredHorse

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What do you think about this?

Basically take a bunch of sleeping pills and when you are close to falling asleep pull a plastic bag over your head.
This was the predecessor method to the inert gas method.

The protocol, as I've read of it, is to build your exit bag just the same as you would for inert gas: a turkey-size oven bag with an elastic drawcord around the neck.

When you're ready, take a heavy dose of sedatives.

Put the bag onto your head, but hold the elastic open with your hands, so that you can breathe freely without the CO2 buildup causing your hypercapnic alarm to trip.

Do not
squeeze the air out of the bag. Contrary to the inert gas method, you want a good reserve of breatheable air in the bag.

As you hold the bag open, position your hands so that when the sedatives take effect, your hands will fall away and allow the elastic drawcord to close the bag around your neck.

Now wait for the sedatives to take effect.

The theory is that when the sedatives kick in, your hands drop away and the bag closes. The residual air in the bag allows the sedatives enough time to fully incapacitate you before the CO2 buildup trips your hypercapnic alarm. By the time the air runs out, the sedatives have rendered you incapable of removing the bag, and you suffocate.

My understanding is that it is very important to position yourself so that the bag cannot be displaced by any jerking or twitching, as your (sedated) body still attempts to react to the hypercapnic alarm.
 
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Morpheus

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What do you think about this?

Basically take a bunch of sleeping pills
and when you are close to falling asleep pull a plastic bag over your head.
Agree with @therhydler. I speak from personal experience that this won't work.
However, I've been wondering about this method if a zip tie were to be used so you can't rip it off. It would be terrifying for a long few seconds. But it would work.
 
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Deleted member 4993

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Just search > Diethyl ether

eBay item number:
222836267462 It's one of many.
 
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Thanks
 
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Your welcome, the search will show different sizes of bottles :-)
 
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Sixfeetunder

Sixfeetunder

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Jan 12, 2019
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Wouldn't work. You would have to take something that would cause you to be unconscious for at least 3 minutes in order for it to work.

Source: I once took a bunch of sleeping pills and tried to drown myself. It didn't work. I just took a 7 hour nap instead.
 
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Morpheus

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Dec 3, 2018
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I'm musing here. Because I feel trapped. As we've already concluded, simply ODng inside a bag won't work. However, if one were (desperate enough to) ziptie hands together, so as not to rip off the bag, it would work ?
 
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JohnDoe1

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Sep 13, 2018
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One has to use a bag large enough to provide air for 45 minutes - 1 hour..for this method to work...also, phenobarbital should not be used, it is slow...Midazolam seems to be the drug of choice...it's quick and provides a deep sleep...

Also, people don't wake up when they are suffocating, people remove the bag, while they are unconscious..so, even if you fail, it wouldn't be painful....but, if you use a bag large enough, this wouldn't be a problem, you would be in deep sleep, by the time air runs out..

Some authors have recommended some extra steps, to make sure you don't tear off the bag...this includes, using multiple bags, restraining hands with a belt or rope, wearing gloves etc...
 
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JohnDoe1

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Also, if someone can acquire general anesthetics like Ketamine, Propofol, Ether, Chloroform, Furane etc...then, this method has a very high chance of working...most of these drugs are recreational drugs too..so, wouldn't be hard finding them on dark markets...
 
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Hopeless_soul

Hopeless_soul

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Jan 3, 2019
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I was thinking about doing that out of despair... The only question I had was whether I needed to take antiemetics before taking the benzos, and how many pills should I take... But yeah, it seems it won't work.
 
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Mistress Death

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Dec 9, 2018
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What's the deal with this stuff, Diethyl ether? Can someone give me a quick rundown or a link to a thread about this stuff/method?
 
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JohnDoe1

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I was thinking about doing that out of despair... The only question I had was whether I needed to take antiemetics before taking the benzos, and how many pills should I take... But yeah, it seems it won't work.

You can take anti-emetics as a precaution...Benzo overdose rarely causes vomiting...I have seen reports of successful suicides with 500 mg of valium...It will work, if you use a bag that is big enough, which will have at least 1 hour of air...
 
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JohnDoe1

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What's the deal with this stuff, Diethyl ether? Can someone give me a quick rundown or a link to a thread about this stuff/method?

Ether is an anesthetic...it solves the major problem with the plastic bag method, that is people tearing the bag in their sleep...since, it paralyzes the skeletal muscles as well...you can buy it from amazon...you have to dip a rag in ether, and place it inside the plastic bag...ether is an inhalation anesthetic...
 
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Hopeless_soul

Hopeless_soul

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Jan 3, 2019
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You can take anti-emetics as a precaution...Benzo overdose rarely causes vomiting...I have seen reports of successful suicides with 500 mg of valium...It will work, if you use a bag that is big enough, which will have at least 1 hour of air...

I'm going to use a plastic bag and nitrogen when the day comes. But out of despair, sometimes I think I'd rather just take the pills... I have Xanax, hydroxyzine... I don't think it will work, not even mixing that with alcohol. It'd be nice if it did though. It'd be too easy.
 
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JohnDoe1

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I'm going to use a plastic bag and nitrogen when the day comes. But out of despair, sometimes I think I'd rather just take the pills... I have Xanax, hydroxyzine... I don't think it will work, not even mixing that with alcohol. It'd be nice if it did though. It'd be too easy.

Nitrogen would be preferable...however, if it's possible for you to try...without facing the consequences like getting locked up in a psych ward for attempted suicide...you can give it a shot...
 
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DontFearTheReaper

DontFearTheReaper

Slowly losing my mind and very ill, help me..
Nov 5, 2018
44
Sleeping pills take ages. Benzodiazepines like all pams.
 
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JohnDoe1

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Sep 13, 2018
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Sleeping pills take ages. Benzodiazepines like all pams.

Not all...Midazolam has an onset of action of 20 min...so, if you have a bag which can hold air for an hour....this might work...
 
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creationisdeath

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Oct 20, 2018
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Wouldn't work. You would have to take something that would cause you to be unconscious for at least 3 minutes in order for it to work.

Source: I once took a bunch of sleeping pills and tried to drown myself. It didn't work. I just took a 7 hour nap instead.
7 hours are plenty of time to drown or suffocate
 
Hopeless_soul

Hopeless_soul

Soon
Jan 3, 2019
502
Nitrogen would be preferable...however, if it's possible for you to try...without facing the consequences like getting locked up in a psych ward for attempted suicide...you can give it a shot...

Do you know if it works: xanax, hydroxyzine and alcohol?
 
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