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Hey guys,

I am wondering if any of you have tried Ayahuasca, iboga or any similar drugs? I have seen many reports online of spiritual experience, self-understanding, understanding the universe 'seeing God' etc. Just wondering if anyone on this site has been down this route. Either specifically as an attempt to see a solution to their problems or see some light, or just as a general experience.
I would be grateful if you could let me know how it was, what you got from it, if it was worth it etc?

Thankss!
 
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Hey guys,

I am wondering if any of you have tried Ayahuasca, iboga or any similar drugs? I have seen many reports online of spiritual experience, self-understanding, understanding the universe 'seeing God' etc. Just wondering if anyone on this site has been down this route. Either specifically as an attempt to see a solution to their problems or see some light, or just as a general experience.
I would be grateful if you could let me know how it was, what you got from it, if it was worth it etc?

Thankss!
I too am very curious. Researching DMT experiences was the thing that finally eased some of my anxiety of CTB. Would be an incredible experience if that is what awaits us after this world.
 
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I'm interested as well. In fact I'm going to be looking into getting the components for Ayahuasca brew as my next project. Trying hallucinogens has always been on my bucket list.
 
SlackJim

SlackJim

Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost
Sep 30, 2019
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Hey, I took LSD and Mushrooms recreationally first, which made me interested in these substances. I have since also taken ayahuasca, San Pedro/Peyote in ceremonial settings. @Lethe I would strongly suggest not going into this on your own, if possible find either a retreat or at least someone sober to 'trip sit' you. you can go to very deep places and to really let go you need to feel relaxed and supported, ideally by shamans who have worked with these plants for many years. This isn't something to be taken lightly, you will really feel the presence of the Shaman/s and it can make all the difference. You don't necessarily have to travel to South America, people host ayahuasca ceremonies all over the world now.

For me ironically I had the most transformational experience back when I took mushrooms 'recreationally'. at the time I had been depressed for years and it happened that literally overnight, my whole perspective changed. I would wake up in the morning and look at the sky and the trees and have a deep appreciation for everything, I was so grateful to be alive. 100 bad things could happen to me during the day and it wouldn't touch me. I basically looked at all the reasons I was depressed in a whole different way, things I had placed so much importance on where laughable. Its like, over time your mind learns to believe certain things, you can learn beliefs that seem to be true, that seem to important, that seem to be unchangeable, but in reality it is just a learned perspective that can always be unlearned. If you think that X, Y and Z in your life will always be the same and never get better, psychedelics can show you in a matter of hours how wrong you always were. There is a bigger picture, and you are zoomed so far into your own problems and insecurities that you don't see it. And when you do see it you will laugh!! I was uncontrollably laughing about issues that had made me want to kill myself!! I really can't recommend it enough.

I have drank ayahuasca 3 times now and I can't say the effect has been as profound, although with these plants I think the experience can be very different from person to person and what happens largely depends on your mindset, where you are in life, what issues you are dealing with and so many other factors. For sure you will zoom out of your life and see a new perspective, I have had the feeling of looking at my life from a 3rd person perspective; literally thinking about everything in my life but without the awareness that it is 'me' that I am thinking about. This can be extremely profound. You really can't quite understand how extraordinary these plants are until you have the experience.

It is by no means a guaranteed quick fix, and the experience can be very difficult, you may uproot traumas/memories that are painful to look at. But that is why it is so effective, in the psychedelic state you can't ignore these things, things you may have brushed aside for years will be at the forefront of your consciousness. You can think of Ayahuasca like a grandmother, she may be stern and tell you things you dont want to hear, but she really wants the best for you. Ayahuasca has a feminine, maternal energy/spirit.

I feel like that text isn't the best ordered/kind of rambling but I am very passionate about this. If you have some feeling of curiosity I say go with that feeling! Be wary of who you decide to journey with, nowadays unfortunately there exist people who are trying to cash in on plant medicines, there are a lot of websites that review different retreat centers, look into it first, if something feels not right about the ceremony don't go ahead with it. If you are in Europe, there are also psilocybin retreats in the Netherlands, lots of places in Portugal. Most other countries outside of South America have to operate 'underground' because of the law.
I too am very curious. Researching DMT experiences was the thing that finally eased some of my anxiety of CTB. Would be an incredible experience if that is what awaits us after this world.
Also, vaping DMT showed me that there is indeed life after death, as well as before birth. I have been to the 'realm' (for lack of a better word) where my consciousness inhabited before my human body. For me this is as much of a fact as that the sky is blue, more so even. like waking up from the matrix.
 
Lethe

Lethe

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Sep 19, 2019
670
Hey, I took LSD and Mushrooms recreationally first, which made me interested in these substances. I have since also taken ayahuasca, San Pedro/Peyote in ceremonial settings. @Lethe I would strongly suggest not going into this on your own, if possible find either a retreat or at least someone sober to 'trip sit' you. you can go to very deep places and to really let go you need to feel relaxed and supported, ideally by shamans who have worked with these plants for many years. This isn't something to be taken lightly, you will really feel the presence of the Shaman/s and it can make all the difference. You don't necessarily have to travel to South America, people host ayahuasca ceremonies all over the world now.

For me ironically I had the most transformational experience back when I took mushrooms 'recreationally'. at the time I had been depressed for years and it happened that literally overnight, my whole perspective changed. I would wake up in the morning and look at the sky and the trees and have a deep appreciation for everything, I was so grateful to be alive. 100 bad things could happen to me during the day and it wouldn't touch me. I basically looked at all the reasons I was depressed in a whole different way, things I had placed so much importance on where laughable. Its like, over time your mind learns to believe certain things, you can learn beliefs that seem to be true, that seem to important, that seem to be unchangeable, but in reality it is just a learned perspective that can always be unlearned. If you think that X, Y and Z in your life will always be the same and never get better, psychedelics can show you in a matter of hours how wrong you always were. There is a bigger picture, and you are zoomed so far into your own problems and insecurities that you don't see it. And when you do see it you will laugh!! I was uncontrollably laughing about issues that had made me want to kill myself!! I really can't recommend it enough.

I have drank ayahuasca 3 times now and I can't say the effect has been as profound, although with these plants I think the experience can be very different from person to person and what happens largely depends on your mindset, where you are in life, what issues you are dealing with and so many other factors. For sure you will zoom out of your life and see a new perspective, I have had the feeling of looking at my life from a 3rd person perspective; literally thinking about everything in my life but without the awareness that it is 'me' that I am thinking about. This can be extremely profound. You really can't quite understand how extraordinary these plants are until you have the experience.

It is by no means a guaranteed quick fix, and the experience can be very difficult, you may uproot traumas/memories that are painful to look at. But that is why it is so effective, in the psychedelic state you can't ignore these things, things you may have brushed aside for years will be at the forefront of your consciousness. You can think of Ayahuasca like a grandmother, she may be stern and tell you things you dont want to hear, but she really wants the best for you. Ayahuasca has a feminine, maternal energy/spirit.

I feel like that text isn't the best ordered/kind of rambling but I am very passionate about this. If you have some feeling of curiosity I say go with that feeling! Be wary of who you decide to journey with, nowadays unfortunately there exist people who are trying to cash in on plant medicines, there are a lot of websites that review different retreat centers, look into it first, if something feels not right about the ceremony don't go ahead with it. If you are in Europe, there are also psilocybin retreats in the Netherlands, lots of places in Portugal. Most other countries outside of South America have to operate 'underground' because of the law.

Also, vaping DMT showed me that there is indeed life after death, as well as before birth. I have been to the 'realm' (for lack of a better word) where my consciousness inhabited before my human body. For me this is as much of a fact as that the sky is blue, more so even. like waking up from the matrix.


What brought you to this site, then? Since you claim these substances have helped you so much.
 
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What brought you to this site, then? Since you claim these substances have helped you so much.
Ah I meant to mention that... My life has had many peaks and dips, some peaks are higher than others, some dips are lower than others. Up until taking mushrooms I was on a long, slow decline, leading to about 2-3 years of a very low dip, a couple of suicide attempts (not really attempt, but I went to beachy head twice) After the most impactful experience with mushrooms, I was on a very high peak for about 1-2 years, untouchable! after that I did have some more dips but they were never as low as they had been before mushrooms, I was never suicidal or severely depressed, just a bit low. over a period of a few years I tried ayahuasca and peyote, at the time I tried those I wasn't severely depressed, maybe a bit low and lacking direction/motivation but never as bad as I had been when I was younger. For me I learnt a lot from ayahuasca and peyote, but they were never as profound and mushrooms (I think mainly because mushrooms were the first experience like this, before mushrooms I was naive, close minded, had many set in cultural beliefs). I joined this site more recently after maybe a year or more of slowly getting worse, and for sure it has been my biggest dip since I was much younger (although with my perspective since taking psychedelics it feels different, like as you grow and learn, depression takes a different form, I guess a lot of people can relate to that with or without psychedelics) This time around it has been related to finances and not really seeing a way out of my situation, deep down I know that is false, I know I create my reality and have all the power to change it, it has just felt like too much work to get to where I want to be. I actually left this site about 2 months ago, I only logged on again to reply to this post.

There are a lot people with a lot of different experiences, I'm sure you can read about many of them online, for some people it can be a magic wand that works once and they're good for life. For a lot they will have a profound, fresh perspective but still get dragged down into whatever problems they have. I see it like a reset button, you can press it and be good for a long time, but the world and all of it's negative influences can be heavy and weigh you down again. There are a lot of people who try ayahuasca for depression, spend 6 hours being sick, and then say it didn't work. It's not uncommon to have little to no psychedelic effect the first time you drink it, It is best to be able to have multiple ceremonies (for example 3-5 over a week) to really benefit from it. Shamans will say sometimes it has to work on your body on a psysical level before it can heal your mind.

So yes I am on this site because I have been feeling very low, I truly believe I would have died sooner without mushrooms though. I am currently hoping to attend an iboga retreat, iboga because since first hearing about it I have been very curious. The experience sound very strong (even compared to ayahuasca) and it is known to be particularly effective for addiction and trauma.
 

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