Today, German supreme court gave a verdict which can legalize assisted suicide in Germany.
Spinoza
Member
- Feb 24, 2020
- 18
They are always incomplete laws. Contemplate only those who have incurable physical diseases. In Portugal and Spain it was also approved. However, they will always be incomplete and restrictive rules. Unfortunately.
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Nutshell
I’d feel better dead.
- Feb 23, 2020
- 272
Come on Britain you facking racist, bigoted, prejudiced backwards cants. I didn't ask to be born.
You don't give a shit about us anyway so let us go in peace.
Personally I don't think I will be around to 'wait and see'.
You don't give a shit about us anyway so let us go in peace.
Personally I don't think I will be around to 'wait and see'.
I think that is for incurable illness,but they didn't specify anything.see this link
Germany overturns ban on assisted suicide - BBC News
Five years ago a change in the law stopped doctors helping the terminally ill to end their lives.
www.google.com
I don't think uk will do that in the next couple of decades
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It is meant for every circumstance. See here:
Bundesverfassungsgericht - Press - Criminalisation of assisted suicide services unconstitutional
The general right of personality (Art. 2(1) in conjunction with Art. 1(1) of the Basic Law, Grundgesetz – GG) encompasses a right to a self-determined death. This right includes the freedom to take one’s own life and, as the case may be, resort to assistance provided voluntarily by third parties...
www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de
Thats why i mentioned " i think""It is meant for every circumstance. See here:
"The right to a self-determined death is not limited to situations defined by external causes like serious or incurable illnesses, nor does it only apply in certain stages of life or illness. Rather, this right is guaranteed in all stages of a person's existence."Bundesverfassungsgericht - Press - Criminalisation of assisted suicide services unconstitutional
The general right of personality (Art. 2(1) in conjunction with Art. 1(1) of the Basic Law, Grundgesetz – GG) encompasses a right to a self-determined death. This right includes the freedom to take one’s own life and, as the case may be, resort to assistance provided voluntarily by third parties...
But,I am pretty sure that they wont allow for mental illness. The best it can happen would be like in Netherlands,where 1 out of 100 serious mental illness cases are acceptedIt is meant for every circumstance. See here:
"The right to a self-determined death is not limited to situations defined by external causes like serious or incurable illnesses, nor does it only apply in certain stages of life or illness. Rather, this right is guaranteed in all stages of a person's existence."Bundesverfassungsgericht - Press - Criminalisation of assisted suicide services unconstitutional
The general right of personality (Art. 2(1) in conjunction with Art. 1(1) of the Basic Law, Grundgesetz – GG) encompasses a right to a self-determined death. This right includes the freedom to take one’s own life and, as the case may be, resort to assistance provided voluntarily by third parties...
Be sure, here in Germany, now nobody knows what to do with it. There will be strict regulations and stuff and even with terminal illness you will have to do a lot of paperwork an stuff.
We germans are fucking office paper nazis. It wont be that easy.
Best thing would be, that doctors could prescribe N if you want it and they wont get in conflict with the law. That would be the best. So if you find a doctor who will support you, everything was fine. And if you dont find someone you could do paper stuff to get it from the government.
But all that wont happen that quick.
We germans are fucking office paper nazis. It wont be that easy.
Best thing would be, that doctors could prescribe N if you want it and they wont get in conflict with the law. That would be the best. So if you find a doctor who will support you, everything was fine. And if you dont find someone you could do paper stuff to get it from the government.
But all that wont happen that quick.
Yes. I know how the German system works. It takes 1 month to get an internet connection :). No offense to Germans
well at the moment assisted suicide is completely legal, in Germany, because of the verdict. it will take a few months until new regulations or laws will come.
Quarky00
Enlightened
- Dec 17, 2019
- 1,956
There's no way this will happen in the UK ;)
- British woman who escorted husband to Diginitas was investigated -- despite CPS guidelines that say they shouldn't .
- Police chiefs and academics support heroin cliniques (Switzerland) or turning a blind eye for small weed users -- government keep insisting hard (Labour government as well) .
- Abortions NI , duh ..
Majin K.
too weak for this world
- Jan 9, 2020
- 232
Hell the people responsible in Germany for checking whether or not you're ill enough to get the medication that will kill you were ordered to deny all applications and delay them as long as possible. There's no such thing as assisted suicide in Germany. It only exists on paper unless you refuse to drink and eat in the hospital. Only then will they help you die.
Quarky00
Enlightened
- Dec 17, 2019
- 1,956
It's never easy , Belgium , Netherlands , Switzerland -- it takes 2-4 years .
Euthanasia should be thorough rather than quick .
That said , current process in aforementioned countries that do approve it (even for mental illness) seem excessively long and complicated ; even in its best current form (which is quite good) it should be improved .
NextSummer
Experienced
- Mar 28, 2019
- 278
The constitutional court explicitly said that it's illegal to make criteria who gets the professional help. So you can be 18 and totally healthy - and you have the right to die as long as you find a doctor who prescribes it. Because suicide is a fundamental right, everybody who can make sane decisions is allowed to do with professional help. This is different than Belgium or Netherlands in where there is an expert round which decides about each case separately. This is not planned in Germany, because this would mean that there is selective criteria. But you have to find a willing doctor.
It will take time, because the court has proposed mandatory waiting periods to make sure the suiciding person is sure about his wish. Or getting mandatory counselling. The politicians now are surely thinking how to restrict the access.
But the point "everybody is allowed" is stressed by court. If you don't believe, here they talk about the right for EVERYBODY in German
It will take time, because the court has proposed mandatory waiting periods to make sure the suiciding person is sure about his wish. Or getting mandatory counselling. The politicians now are surely thinking how to restrict the access.
But the point "everybody is allowed" is stressed by court. If you don't believe, here they talk about the right for EVERYBODY in German
But the point is, can u find a doctor :). Ifu find one, please let me know. I can pay atleast 10000 euros ;)I dont think it would be easy. Moreover, even in swiss and netherlands, the doctors are given freedom to give drug to mental illness people, if they tried everything. But, most doctors dont give the drug
finding a doctor wouldnt be the curcial part, the crucial part is that in most regions of Germany doctors arent allowed to help with suicid cause of their
Occupation Regulation. They could lose their Approbation to work
Heil Germany what bureaucratical fuck
Occupation Regulation. They could lose their Approbation to work
Heil Germany what bureaucratical fuck
Majin K.
too weak for this world
- Jan 9, 2020
- 232
Just forget about this. There are so many easy ways to die. You don't need the German government's help.
Majin K.
too weak for this world
- Jan 9, 2020
- 232
Carbon monoxide. There's several ways to go about it and it isn't that hard. Also SN is relatively peaceful and you can apparently get it on eBay. Exit bags with an inert gas.
But,u can't guarantee. If it is with the doctor, there is no need to worry about failure and consequences
sadly it is like that
i honestly dont see the problem with all that euthanasia stuff.
why do such restricts, i simply dont get it. all over the world. If i say it truly and its my wish, i only harm myself not others. so why make people suffer. every pet is released from suffering in a peaceful way, and they arent even asked if they want
AlreadyGone
Taking it day by day
- Jan 11, 2020
- 917
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