Article: Hotel Suicide

[PJFord]

I'm still debating hopping down to Las Vegas and CTBing in a nice room in my favorite resort hotel.

I wanted to share this article that talks about Vegas. For those considering this option, I like what the article says that the larger chain resorts can more easily cover any clean-up costs than small mom-and-pop hotels. Something to consider...I want to alleviate as much suffering and repercussions from my act as possible.

 

[NeverGrowUp]

Not sure of your method, but I would be sure to allow ample time between CTB and the possibility of being discovered. A lot of hotel chains (particularly Vegas) enacted 24 hour room checks or something to that effect after the shootings there. I know Disney World doesn't even provide do not disturb signs anymore, only "room occupied" ones. Shouldn't be an issue if you do it at nighttime, just something to be aware of. I know previously you could put do not disturb up and the hotel would actually leave you alone for days, but I guess that's not the case anymore. I've stayed at Marriott's where I would put on DND sign and sure enough in the morning room service attempts to let themselves in completely ignoring the sign!

I also love the idea of a hotel CTB (so luxurious!) and would advocate for using a resort or something over a dinky mom and pop place, they have protocols and the cost is nothing to some giant conglomerate such as Marriott or Hilton, whereas it could really harm a small business. (I even read a story once about seedy motels not replacing the bed after someone killed themselves on it because they couldn't afford too... yuck!)

 

[Ghost2211]

I would assume larger chains would be the more polite choice. They have more staff, likely see suicide more often, and are financially better off. I also just like the idea of staying somewhere nice.

 

[TheQ22]

OOh Las Vegas - I'd never thought of that. Somewhere I've always wanted to visit. What a cracking idea.

 

[NeverGrowUp]

Another benefit to Vegas is most of the resorts are absolutely massive, nobody's paying close attention to if you're looking gloomy or whatever. Personally I might choose somewhere overlooking/nearby the water though, I feel the sounds of the ocean have a calming effect.

 

[TheQ22]

Another benefit to Vegas is most of the resorts are absolutely massive, nobody's paying close attention to if you're looking gloomy or whatever. Personally I might choose somewhere overlooking/nearby the water though, I feel the sounds of the ocean have a calming effect.

Would they worry when I wheeled in the big nitrogen tank and @LetzteAusfahrt 's scuba gear all in one go?

 

[NeverGrowUp]

Would they worry when I wheeled in the big nitrogen tank and @LetzteAusfahrt 's scuba gear all in one go?

Made me lol thanks for this
Then again that awful Vegas shooter wheeled in like tubs and tubs of ammo and guns, maybe most people truly are not paying attention!

 

[TheQ22]

Made me lol thanks for this
Then again that awful Vegas shooter wheeled in like tubs and tubs of ammo and guns, maybe most people truly are not paying attention!

As long as you're tipping the door staff and having a good time I bet they don't care if you waltz past with a Gatling gun.

 

[andy69]

Would they worry when I wheeled in the big nitrogen tank and @LetzteAusfahrt 's scuba gear all in one go?

Most of the cameras are pointed at the tables, slot machines, and people counting the money.

 

[Taki]

This is another example of why suicide facilities should be available just like other types of assisted death. No surprises, indignity, trauma, etc, and probably some sensible rules. Blowing your brains out for someone else to deal with is selfish.

 

[bov]

Would they worry when I wheeled in the big nitrogen tank and @LetzteAusfahrt 's scuba gear all in one go?

All the supplies for inert gas should fit in a big suitcase, right?

 

[TheQ22]

I need to get to 999 for my special 1000th post. So this is it. Sorry...

 

[bov]

lame i thought it was a real reply

 

[PJFord]

I'm staying at a hotel tonight. Not to CTB...just visiting one last time my old hometown and surrounding area that meant so much to me as a kid. To say goodbye.

This notice was in the room. As I've heard from hotels in general they are not cleaning the room every day during your stay unless you request them to do so. I don't know exactly what other United States chains are doing this. But this along with hanging the Do Not Disturb sign might be useful for those CTBing in hotel rooms.

 

[Greenberg]

Would they worry when I wheeled in the big nitrogen tank and @LetzteAusfahrt 's scuba gear all in one go?

The scuba gear would be much less conspicuous. It will probably fit in a small backpack. The only thing is the price of the gear (around a grand). However, a 20cf cylinder would fit in a big suitcase but may draw attention. Vegas folks are particularly anxious after the major shooting at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Not sure of your method, but I would be sure to allow ample time between CTB and the possibility of being discovered. A lot of hotel chains (particularly Vegas) enacted 24 hour room checks or something to that effect after the shootings there. I know Disney World doesn't even provide do not disturb signs anymore, only "room occupied" ones. Shouldn't be an issue if you do it at nighttime, just something to be aware of. I know previously you could put do not disturb up and the hotel would actually leave you alone for days, but I guess that's not the case anymore. I've stayed at Marriott's where I would put on DND sign and sure enough in the morning room service attempts to let themselves in completely ignoring the sign!

Did room service just enter the room without knocking or announcing themselves?

What about the inside chain lock, or inside lever locks? Most individual rooms have them. Perhaps they have now been removed.

And yes, I would wager that hotel policies on guest privacy has changed a lot over the past few years.

Does anyone know if there is any source / stats? I wonder if the number of suicides in hotels have been increasing.

The argument for ctb in a large hotel is a valid one. I know someone whose uncle ctb'd in his house. The authorities had ordered his family to remove the floor boards and replace them where he shot himself—that was expensive, and his family owns their house. The only thing the comes to mind about ctb in a large hotel would be whether or not the management would track down the deceased next of kin and send him / her an invoice demanding to be reimbursed for the cleanup costs. It would not be outside the realm of possibility these days.

 

[Makko]

The only thing the comes to mind about ctb in a large hotel would be whether or not the management would track down the deceased next of kin and send him / her an invoice demanding to be reimbursed for the cleanup costs. It would not be outside the realm of possibility these days.

I've had several cases like this, though it wasn't for hotels but for rental unit landlords.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I've had several cases like this, though it wasn't for hotels but for rental unit landlords.

But what was the ultimate outcome? Was the landlord successful?

 

[Final Escape]

I'm still debating hopping down to Las Vegas and CTBing in a nice room in my favorite resort hotel.

I wanted to share this article that talks about Vegas. For those considering this option, I like what the article says that the larger chain resorts can more easily cover any clean-up costs than small mom-and-pop hotels. Something to consider...I want to alleviate as much suffering and repercussions from my act as possible.

I stay in the perfect spot to do this. I live in a motel. Not a high end place but quiet and it won't make much of a fuss. They hardly check and other people live here too. I feel like I really need to do this soon. It's not that there's any rush but there's things that could stop me if I don't go fairly soon. Part of the issue is I don't want to be doing what I do anymore and it's not easy to get out. :(" I don't really want to die but I'm not able to be ok financially or relationship wise. I'm incredibly isolated much of the time.

 

[Makko]

But what was the ultimate outcome? Was the landlord successful?

In one case the claim was withrawn due to media scandal and all other cases so far ended in settlements where the landlord got much less than their original claim. None of the cases were suicides though (as far as I know). I think it would be easier to negotiate a good settlement or even win a court dispute in the case of suicide because you can prove negligence. In case where people die from a stroke or somesuch there's no negligence, which means much shakier legal ground to press a claim. Also important to note that such a claim wouldn't be directed at the relatives themselves, but at the estate of the dead person.

 

[ManWithNoName]

. Also important to note that such a claim wouldn't be directed at the relatives themselves, but at the estate of the dead person.

What if the deceased had nothing to his name? Is it possible for the landlord to go after the family of the deceased to seek out monetary compensation?

 

[Tackingintothewind]

I would imagine only if the deceased used a guarantor.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I would imagine only if the deceased used a guarantor.

I would certainly hope so, but in the USA the rule of law seems to be dead now. I see a lot of judges and those in charge 'making it up as they go along' with regards to due process. I just don't want to see any of my family get stuck with some financial demand for compensation because I ctb'd. This is what is making me consider to just go away and disappear, and ctb without any identification—die a John Doe.

 

[Tackingintothewind]

I'm considering withdrawing what money I have and leaving it hidden for my family