Are we wrong about hanging?

[SweetSpot086]

Death by hanging is attributed to 3 possible mechanisms..according to Working Group on Human Asphyxia

- closure of the blood vessels of the neck, and/or
- compression of the air passages, and/or
- vagal stimulation by pressure on the baroreceptors in the carotid sinuses and the carotid body

When we talk about hanging, we always talk about closing the carotids...what if that is not how hanging works and we have to close the airway as well?

 

[Lady black]

Just think about what will happen when no blood will get to your brain for about half an hour. This is what happens, when you close the arteries.

 

[SweetSpot086]

Just think about what will happen when no blood will get to your brain for about half an hour. This is what happens, when you close the arteries.

But, is that what really happens? Scientists dont know for sure..maybe, death is by airway compression..that would be really painful...

 

[Lady black]

People have died because somebody pressed with two fingers on their arteries, there was no airway compressed. There are many people that died from partial suspension, you can see on pics and in videos that their airway is not compressed completely, cause the neck is not compressed very much...

 

[alizee]

Airway compression isn't a painful way to die. I've been strangled before and being swept into an unconsciousness state was extremely fast. It was also painless and the only downside is the natural human tendency to fight back kicks in from fear.

 

[Lady black]

Don´t you think that your arteries where compressed at the strangling? Did you fell, that you where getting no air anymore?

 

[ManWithNoName]

I've been strangled before and being swept into an unconsciousness state was extremely fast. It was also painless and the only downside is the natural human tendency to fight back kicks in from fear.

Were you intentionally attempting to test the vital parts of the neck to prepare for ctb? How did you come to be strangled?

 

[alizee]

I was in a head lock by another person and this happened when living in an abusive situation. There was no way to breathe at all. Basically, I blacked out very fast and just natural fear that kicks in making you try to fight back before falling into an unconscious state. No pain at all and not even when waking up. I just felt extremely disoriented.

 

[Lady black]

Thanks for sharing this with us, but I think you also passed out cause of compressed arteries in combination with getting no air

 

[alizee]

Well if both happened instead of just getting no air. It still resulted in no pain.

Hanging is probably one of my highest considered methods if I cannot get MAID in Canada. My only concern would be somehow surviving. Pain isn't much of an issue if it does happen. I've experienced really bad pain in physical & mental form throughout life. I'm kind of perplexed people are afraid of pain when considering suicide. My greatest fear like I said would be surviving and ending up in a vegetable like state.

 

[Lady black]

That´s true.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I was in a head lock by another person and this happened when living in an abusive situation. There was no way to breathe at all. Basically, I blacked out very fast and just natural fear that kicks in making you try to fight back before falling into an unconscious state. No pain at all and not even when waking up. I just felt extremely disoriented.

I'm sorry to read that you had this happen to you—but thank you for sharing the physiological reaction you had—I'm still trying to calculate proper knot and method for a least painful and quickest result cbt.

 

[alizee]

I'm sorry to read that you had this happen to you—but thank you for sharing the physiological reaction you had—I'm still trying to calculate proper knot and method for a least painful and quickest result cbt.

Thank you, I purchased climbing robe awhile back and I assume full suspension would be quick. Partial suspension might have some benefit by experimenting with different diameters of rope. Making a proper noose wasn't that hard from following youtube. I'm guessing wrapping cloth around the noose if I were to go partial suspension might help with some discomfort.

 

[Walilamdzi]

I think my issue is that I don't want to go through the physical experience of dying, I have no idea how I will accomplish this because it is really quite uncomfortable from my experience.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

The airway gets closed after you go unconcious e.g. with partial hanging you put pressure on the carotid arteries but can still breath then you go unconcious and the rope, scarf, belt etc. tightens so you suffercate.

 

[Emily_Numb]

I have passed out within a matter of seconds and that was solely from the closure of the blood vessels in the neck. I could still breathe, I wasn't choking but the effects were frighteningly quick. This was not intentional but during sex. I had a collar on and it was pulled from the back and must have it the sweet spot because I was out cold in under a minute. I then woke up shaking, almost like a seizure which I can only assume was the Adrenalin rushing thought me. I am sure if I was doing this method alone, I'd be dead in a matter of minutes. There was zero pain.

 

[Walilamdzi]

I have passed out within a matter of seconds and that was solely from the closure of the blood vessels in the neck. I could still breathe, I wasn't choking but the effects were frighteningly quick. This was not intentional but during sex. I had a collar on and it was pulled from the back and must have it the sweet spot because I was out cold in under a minute. I then woke up shaking, almost like a seizure which I can only assume was the Adrenalin rushing thought me. I am sure if I was doing this method alone, I'd be dead in a matter of minutes. There was zero pain.

Did your partner notice and remove it? Or you just woke up of your own accord?

 

[Emily_Numb]

Did your partner notice and remove it? Or you just woke up of your own accord?

Partner noticed and removed it. Had he not, I probably wouldn't be here right now.

 

[Walilamdzi]

Partner noticed and removed it. Had he not, I probably wouldn't be here right now.

I get a sort of nauseous feeling as soon as I lean forward with something around my neck, I don't get why I'm finding this so hard.

 

[Emily_Numb]

I get a sort of nauseous feeling as soon as I lean forward with something around my neck, I don't get why I'm finding this so hard.

I didn't have time to feel nausea of any sort. The nausea you are feeling are no doubt caused by nerves. When you hit that spot properly, you won't have a chance to think anything else. I wasn't leaning, it isn't even a strong pressure as such. It's just about the hitting the right spot with a bit of pressure. Maybe this method isn't right for you. There is no rush. Thinking about it and find something you feel more confident and comfortable with if ctb is something you eventually chose to do.

 

[Aap]

It depends entirely on how. For example, long drop hanging severs the cervical spine high enough to prevent breathing (above c3-c5). What most people think of hanging results in typically broken hyoid bones and often fractures to the crycoid or tracheal cartilage (airway obstruction). Likewise, it is possible to have carotid primary hanging.

how do you know which is which? Well, the times to unconsciousness are very different. There is a HUGE difference in a choke that compresses the carotids (not painful, unconsciousness in 5-10 seconds) vs one that compresses the trachea (painful, panic inducing, and can take minutes).

It is not as if this information isn't known or well established. I think some may speak on the issue without having actually researched it adequately.