Anything overly positive just makes me want to ctb even more

[FuneralCry]

I do personally have a dislike for anything with a positive theme, I cannot stand toxic positivity and forced optimism. It just makes me feel worse and makes me want to ctb even more. I really don't relate to people in general. Such a thing as happiness could never even exist to me. It's a lie, humans are never satisfied and life is just endless problems with the chance of things getting worse at any moment. I think that having a positive view towards life can be irrational in a world where everything is determined by random factors like chance and luck. Nobody can guarantee that they won't end up in extreme pain.

I think that it's so irritating when the people who say toxic positivity type things push their views onto others and deny all of the real suffering that exists. Having hope often just leads to more pain and disappointment which is why it's better to see the world for what it really is. I would always prefer to avoid anything with a positive theme, it's just people in denial. Spending time thinking about how horrible this world is, is being realistic and it's the best thing to think about.

The problem with positive views towards life is that it means that people will continue to procreate and mean that the cycle of suffering will continue with more people who will eventually have to ctb being brought into this world. Even things like humour just invalidates the suffering in this world and can be irritating.

At the end of the day if someone doesn't ctb or die from other causes before they get old all they have to look forward to is very old age where they will witness themselves deteriorate. There is nothing desirable about this, it's all very depressing. In fact the existence of life in the first place is depressing, it really is tragic how life continues to be brought into this world and how people make it as difficult as possible for others to leave this life behind. We really live in a pro suffering society and I'm tired of it all.

 

[akirat9]

I do personally have a dislike for anything with a positive theme, I cannot stand toxic positivity and forced optimism. It just makes me feel worse and makes me want to ctb even more. I really don't relate to people in general. Such a thing as happiness could never even exist to me. It's a lie, humans are never satisfied and life is just endless problems with the chance of things getting worse at any moment. I think that having a positive view towards life can be irrational in a world where everything is determined by random factors like chance and luck. Nobody can guarantee that they won't end up in extreme pain.

I think that it's so irritating when the people who say toxic positivity type things push their views onto others and deny all of the real suffering that exists. Having hope often just leads to more pain and disappointment which is why it's better to see the world for what it really is. I would always prefer to avoid anything with a positive theme, it's just people in denial. Spending time thinking about how horrible this world is, is being realistic and it's the best thing to think about.

The problem with positive views towards life is that it means that people will continue to procreate and mean that the cycle of suffering will continue with more people who will eventually have to ctb being brought into this world. Even things like humour just invalidates the suffering in this world and can be irritating.

At the end of the day if someone doesn't ctb or die from other causes before they get old all they have to look forward to is very old age where they will witness themselves deteriorate. There is nothing desirable about this, it's all very depressing. In fact the existence of life in the first place is depressing, it really is tragic how life continues to be brought into this world and how people make it as difficult as possible for others to leave this life behind. We really live in a pro suffering society and I'm tired of it all.

you one of rare one here who truly understand. is very rare here is thanks

 

[Living_Hurts_so_Much]

I often feel like this is a big joke to someone. "Live. Have kids. Strive for stuff". Like all that crap is supposed to make you happy? Then get old. Look back and say well shit what the hell did I go through that for???

 

[lionetta12]

I do personally have a dislike for anything with a positive theme, I cannot stand toxic positivity and forced optimism. It just makes me feel worse and makes me want to ctb even more. I really don't relate to people in general. Such a thing as happiness could never even exist to me. It's a lie, humans are never satisfied and life is just endless problems with the chance of things getting worse at any moment. I think that having a positive view towards life can be irrational in a world where everything is determined by random factors like chance and luck. Nobody can guarantee that they won't end up in extreme pain.

I think that it's so irritating when the people who say toxic positivity type things push their views onto others and deny all of the real suffering that exists. Having hope often just leads to more pain and disappointment which is why it's better to see the world for what it really is. I would always prefer to avoid anything with a positive theme, it's just people in denial. Spending time thinking about how horrible this world is, is being realistic and it's the best thing to think about.

The problem with positive views towards life is that it means that people will continue to procreate and mean that the cycle of suffering will continue with more people who will eventually have to ctb being brought into this world. Even things like humour just invalidates the suffering in this world and can be irritating.

At the end of the day if someone doesn't ctb or die from other causes before they get old all they have to look forward to is very old age where they will witness themselves deteriorate. There is nothing desirable about this, it's all very depressing. In fact the existence of life in the first place is depressing, it really is tragic how life continues to be brought into this world and how people make it as difficult as possible for others to leave this life behind. We really live in a pro suffering society and I'm tired of it all.

Toxic positivity make me more suicidal than anything else in this world.

 

[leeloosnow]

yea fk toxic positivity, makes me literally nauseous. i was in this recovery group for a while, as a secular alternative. but that didn't work either as it's smack full of lovey dovey bs. people don't like to see the truth because it's hard, and it's not pretty, and it requires compassion, all things uncomfortable. they rather pray about it or ascribe some silly disney flavored view to it, or say it's going to be okay because that "sounds nice" when in reality it's not fkn nice at all, it's unrealistic unwelcoming and helps precisely no one.

 

[empty sighs]

I relate to this greatly. I've experienced a lot of empty positivity, my counselor seemed surprised to hear that listening to happy music and exercising wasn't having much of an effect. Happy by Will Pharrell made me more suicidal than usual. A lot of what people say seems to not mean much though I always ask. I suppose it's better if people just listen even if they only want to help by giving solutions like procreate or smile more. It's half the problem the positivity; I wish it wasn't your fault for feeling terrible when the suggests don't work. Labeled as not trying when there's not an easy fix.

 

[CTB Dream]

Yea same say people happy fake world society happy idea distract many type only makr reproduce. That it species continue reproduce nothing more. What gain bring life torture say happy nothing. Now injury damage happiness what all nonsense all Braun Chemic temporary, what mean other happy even say seven bill happy when have problem no solution. This same anyone everyone live pretend happy fake suffer die force other live, why nit see real why not see suffer, front eye suffer close eye

 

[eldiablo666]

I do personally have a dislike for anything with a positive theme, I cannot stand toxic positivity and forced optimism. It just makes me feel worse and makes me want to ctb even more. I really don't relate to people in general. Such a thing as happiness could never even exist to me. It's a lie, humans are never satisfied and life is just endless problems with the chance of things getting worse at any moment. I think that having a positive view towards life can be irrational in a world where everything is determined by random factors like chance and luck. Nobody can guarantee that they won't end up in extreme pain.

I think that it's so irritating when the people who say toxic positivity type things push their views onto others and deny all of the real suffering that exists. Having hope often just leads to more pain and disappointment which is why it's better to see the world for what it really is. I would always prefer to avoid anything with a positive theme, it's just people in denial. Spending time thinking about how horrible this world is, is being realistic and it's the best thing to think about.

The problem with positive views towards life is that it means that people will continue to procreate and mean that the cycle of suffering will continue with more people who will eventually have to ctb being brought into this world. Even things like humour just invalidates the suffering in this world and can be irritating.

At the end of the day if someone doesn't ctb or die from other causes before they get old all they have to look forward to is very old age where they will witness themselves deteriorate. There is nothing desirable about this, it's all very depressing. In fact the existence of life in the first place is depressing, it really is tragic how life continues to be brought into this world and how people make it as difficult as possible for others to leave this life behind. We really live in a pro suffering society and I'm tired of it all.

This is a serious response so be warned, it might sound like a joke.

I can explain this which I have thought about for a long time.

Yes, humans risk the chance of extreme pain and this makes it very irrational to want to live or breed.

But humans are irrational creatures.
I think most people are ready to face extreme pain at whatever cost.

One easy example to describe this image or feeling in humans if you look at sex. We can take porn for an easy example.
Search for the top seen porn video and you'll see humanity's truest face / feeling of extreme endurance. Like deepthroat or like "extreme hardcore" . Sure it's a coping thing as well but if you really look at that .. feeling ? The picture it paints - then you can understand how people can breed innocent life into a life this crazy and unpredictable for the sake of their own well being.

People go to any lengths to satisfy their needs .
Don't underestimate them

People are dangerous and are never to be trusted in any way shape or form, in life and death situations. Not even your brother

 

[Forever Sleep]

I would say that yes- in a world such as this, the most 'honest' reaction would be to feel perpetually horrified and in despair. I think it's more the case that not many people can sustain this for that long- so- if we can't bring about an end to it in the short term by ctb (for whatever reason), we try to distract ourselves as best as possible.

Perhaps I'm just very irresponsible but I've become so head in the sand- I avoid the news- I don't actually want to know every terrible thing that is going on in the world because I know it will just bring me down even more. While it's likely more 'honest' to surround myself with negative things that further reinforce my negative thinking- I have to get up in the morning to do a job. I think many people simply can't afford to dive straight into the hole of despair, so they probably lie to themselves (and everyone else) to make it through as best they can.

Also, it's sad to say but people don't seem to be that sympathetic if you are that open about how utterly depressed and hopeless you feel, so quite a few people I expect do what they can to mask those feelings. Having said that- I'm not saying depression is a choice or that it's even possible to mask when it's so severe. I guess people are suffering on all different levels though.

Humour is a case in point. I do understand why it feels irritating, flippant and insulting to you. I think it certainly can be also- it can be used to invalidate a problem. Still, again- I think many people use it as a coping mechanism. It's an extreme example but I've heard in the film 'Life is Beautiful', (haven't actually watched it) a father uses humour to try and disguise the horrors of the concentration camp they are in from his young son. (Supposedly based on a true story.) Some people use humour to try and keep those around them afloat. I do understand why it could have the opposite effect on some people though.

I do totally agree with you that bringing children into this world seems cruel. I do understand your reasoning that this false sense of positivity is likely to perpetuate this. Still- as for us- we are stuck here for now. We have to find a way to get through it until we make the move to end it, or get taken out by natural causes. HOW we do that is down to each of us. Some of us may 'delude' ourselves with 'false' positivity and humour and yet, still be dead tomorrow.

 

[Hollowillow]

I do personally have a dislike for anything with a positive theme, I cannot stand toxic positivity and forced optimism. It just makes me feel worse and makes me want to ctb even more. I really don't relate to people in general. Such a thing as happiness could never even exist to me. It's a lie, humans are never satisfied and life is just endless problems with the chance of things getting worse at any moment. I think that having a positive view towards life can be irrational in a world where everything is determined by random factors like chance and luck. Nobody can guarantee that they won't end up in extreme pain.

I think that it's so irritating when the people who say toxic positivity type things push their views onto others and deny all of the real suffering that exists. Having hope often just leads to more pain and disappointment which is why it's better to see the world for what it really is. I would always prefer to avoid anything with a positive theme, it's just people in denial. Spending time thinking about how horrible this world is, is being realistic and it's the best thing to think about.

The problem with positive views towards life is that it means that people will continue to procreate and mean that the cycle of suffering will continue with more people who will eventually have to ctb being brought into this world. Even things like humour just invalidates the suffering in this world and can be irritating.

At the end of the day if someone doesn't ctb or die from other causes before they get old all they have to look forward to is very old age where they will witness themselves deteriorate. There is nothing desirable about this, it's all very depressing. In fact the existence of life in the first place is depressing, it really is tragic how life continues to be brought into this world and how people make it as difficult as possible for others to leave this life behind. We really live in a pro suffering society and I'm tired of it all.

I couldn't agree more, the pressure to be perfectly happy is suffocating & invaludating

"Even things like humour just invalidates the suffering in this world and can be irritating."

I'm sorry, I'm guilty of that ... Someone made me notice... In a mean way... But I need suicide meme & demotivational posters. I still need to laugh... In the abyss I can only laugh at dark stuff. But I want to laugh at the ridicule of life, not my fellow abused people. And I am sorry if I ever made anyone feel ridiculed. I assure you, it was by being completely oblivious, not a deliberate vicious act. Especially if we never spoke... Context can change the meaning of stuff.

This is a serious response so be warned, it might sound like a joke.

I can explain this which I have thought about for a long time.

Yes, humans risk the chance of extreme pain and this makes it very irrational to want to live or breed.

But humans are irrational creatures.
I think most people are ready to face extreme pain at whatever cost.

One easy example to describe this image or feeling in humans if you look at sex. We can take porn for an easy example.
Search for the top seen porn video and you'll see humanity's truest face / feeling of extreme endurance. Like deepthroat or like "extreme hardcore" . Sure it's a coping thing as well but if you really look at that .. feeling ? The picture it paints - then you can understand how people can breed innocent life into a life this crazy and unpredictable for the sake of their own well being.

People go to any lengths to satisfy their needs .
Don't underestimate them

People are dangerous and are never to be trusted in any way shape or form, in life and death situations. Not even your brother

Babies born of extreme hard core sex are probably going to live hell...

 

[freedompass]

We're all in a grim struggle to survive at the end of the day. I say, whatever gets you through the night as long as it harms no one. And how is seeing the absurdity of this life toxic or dishonest? I'm happy for you to post that you dislike humour, but for many it is therapeutic and relieves stress. What @Forever Sleep said about depressed hopeless people not receiving much sympathy is true. They will also be less likely to attract friends. Which will continue the vicious cycle of loneliness, isolation and more depression they are in.

I mean, yes, by definition most people on this site would rather not be here, but the reality is, until we overcome SI, we are. So the challenge is how to minimise the suffering and stay as comfy as poss, no? We have daily lives, many work and are forced to socialise, we have responsibilities. Being negative 24/7 is just not an option.

Incidentally I don't like 'happy' 'positive' content (or people) either. It tends to have the opposite effect on my mood to what is intended. Most 'normies' fail to understand this. If you admit to feeling a bit low they will tell you to watch comedy or a pixar movie instead of a gritty documentary about homelessness or prisons. And stay off suicide forums at all costs! Nothing will convince these people but they aren't good confidantes in any case so it's really no loss.

Dark content improves my mood. I also dislike spring and summer preferring autumn and winter. It's personal preference.

 

[catperson]

Any positivity in any way makes me feel like shit. I hate when people try to comfort me or i see " comforting" that shit always makes me want to ctb so much more i hate it

 

[rosenwasser]

Happy by Will Pharrell made me more suicidal than usual.

There really is a special place is hell for that track. There was a period of time where it got played in my grocery store on the regular and i just wanted to smash my head against something when hearing it.

 

[conarc]

There really is a special place is hell for that track. There was a period of time where it got played in my grocery store on the regular and i just wanted to smash my head against something when hearing it.

Most likely financed by prolifers. Dumb shit.