Discussion anyone wants to cbt, at least partly, because of work/college/general efforts inherent to life?

[ecmnesia]

not that this is my major motive.

but to an extent not wanting to work, study and generally spending energy with basic tasks required for survival, are an important factor to me.

anyone can relate?

 

[Caspers]

That's one of the reasons for my most recent (nearly fatal) attempt. Stress of education and underlying mental health issues was not a good cocktail. Also I'm terrified of what the future entails, the only things keeping me here is my dog and fear of hurting others.

 

[OopsIdidntwanttodie]

I'm scared of people's intentions. Anywhere where it's essential to build bonds with people gives me crippling anxiety. I'm tired of being used and hurt. CTB is the only way to avoid the bad people.

 

[botanormal]

I feel the same way. It's not my main reason, but sometimes it feels exhausting to put effort into those things day after day. Even when I'm not at work, I still think about it and it always gives me anxiety. It feels like after you're finished working, studying, and taking care of all your basic needs, there's very little time left to do something you actually want to do, and then you have to do it all over again. Feels like a big cycle sometimes, even if I enjoy my job for the most part.

 

[timetofly]

I relate a lot and it makes me feel better that I'm not alone thinking along these lines.

When I say I don't want to work, to dance the way the employer wants, to fight with other people for a chance to get a place to slave away my life (am I an animal to them? Is it funny?), people don't understand. "This is how life works", yeah, go fuck yourself

I'd happily live in a society built around the needs of the people, not the other (modern, old) way, where we are treated like cattle.

 

[shay23]

Yes, I feel like Earth/life/the human experience was intended to be beautiful with nature and building fulfilling relationships but instead I'm working like a capitalist cog in the machine which keeps me at the bottom of the social hierarchy. I make enough money to survive.

 

[demuic]

Yes. I don't want to work in a soul sucking job for the rest of my life. The only things I'm passionate about I either have no desire or ability to pursue in exchange for monetary gains. So society seems me useless and lazy for not wanting to work myself to death to maintain the bare standard of living in a world I was forced into... What a joke.

 

[Rn110bg101]

I already said it in another thread but yes, having to study/work is a major reason. I don't want to become a slave for the rest of my life and run after numbers, neither do I want to live with and repeat the trauma school forced me with, unfortunately it's mandatory in this world and I already requested a year skip last year.

 

[CoalmineCanary]

I don't want to impose on the personal nature of this conversation so I will simply post this and hope it is of help and promotes discussion.

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is a pyramid of the needs that motivate people. Individuals most basic needs, at the base of the pyramid, are physiological. Once they have fulfilled these needs, people move on to their safety needs, social well-being, self-esteem then ultimately their need for...

www.simplypsychology.org

 

[elfgyoza]

I relate a lot and it makes me feel better that I'm not alone thinking along these lines.

When I say I don't want to work, to dance the way the employer wants, to fight with other people for a chance to get a place to slave away my life (am I an animal to them? Is it funny?), people don't understand. "This is how life works", yeah, go fuck yourself

I'd happily live in a society built around the needs of the people, not the other (modern, old) way, where we are treated like cattle.

I agree with this, you're definitely not alone.
If you even dare to tell someone you don't want to work all they say is 'yeah me neither but that's just life'. It's like they understand how shit it is but they don't care enough to change the system?
I'd literally rather not be alive than have to slave away just so I can afford to live. It's not my only reason to CTB but it's up there

I don't want to impose on the personal nature of this conversation so I will simply post this and hope it is of help and promotes discussion.

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is a pyramid of the needs that motivate people. Individuals most basic needs, at the base of the pyramid, are physiological. Once they have fulfilled these needs, people move on to their safety needs, social well-being, self-esteem then ultimately their need for...

www.simplypsychology.org

I've always found issues with the hierarchy of needs. Straight away, at tier 1 it assumes sex is a basic need on the same level as food, air, and sleep? I'm asexual, not once have I needed sex. I understand most people desire it, but they don't need it to survive. It makes humans sound like some kind of animal acting on instinct alone. Maybe I've misunderstood how it's been defined though
Other than that I think it generally makes sense, and I reckon most of us here are lacking in some of these needs. If we can't see how to obtain or fix something we're lacking in then it inevitably leads to feeling trapped, looking for a way out and death is a way out

 

[AutoTap]

Yeh it's a part of the reason why but it is not the main reasons why

 

[ovaltinee99]

Yeah, I hate that it's impossible to just sit back and relax when you're mentally spent. Just the very act of existing -- taking a shower, brushing your teeth, making food or making money to afford said food, cleaning up after yourself -- already takes so. much. work. Add to that the greedy nature of capitalism where you need money to live a mediocre life... oh boy.

 

[cemetorium]

not a main reason but it definitely plays a part.

 

[MindFrog]

I do feel like my efforts have gone to waste. You'd think going to college will surely guarantee you will have a good career but apparently it aint 100%.
It hurts even more when you just forced yourself to do so, you're just left here as a husk who knows mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.

 

[Nymph]

very much so

 

[Moon Flower]

It's definitely part of it. Even living as a NEET is exhausting

 

[Deleted member 17949]

It's a pretty big factor for me. Failing in education and being unable to get a job are probably the biggest practical consequences of being depressed for me, and as much as I'd love to say "well those aren't the important things in life" it's really hard to have a life where you literally don't do anything productive ever.

 

[sadworld]

It's one of my reasons to be honest but that's mostly because my depression and anxiety makes it really hard for me to go to work or school. Sometimes I see people my age going to parties and having fun with friends at work and I just wish I could be like them but oh well...

 

[lilin]

Yes, me too. Like... I don't want it to be my responsibility to live a life? There is so much outside pressure to do things and be succesful: educate yourself, find a nice job, get a house, have relationships. What if I don't see a point in any of these things? What if I don't want to do literally anything? I don't know, I just lack the inner motivation that pushes people forward. I feel empty.